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 GaroRobe wrote:

 Geifer wrote:
Nice cover.

 GaroRobe wrote:
I appreciate them not wasting a model reveal today. The marine on the left has hair?!?!?

It's one of them Emprah's Kiddies photo bombing mighty cult leader's parade. That's what you get for not removing the last cult legion from the codex.

And yet there are thousand sons transfers but no emperors children ones included in csm sets

Hush, you! Don't you see that he's wearing black and gold? He's under the covers, as they say, and those transfers would only give him away. Don't tempt him. Just look at how his unwillingness to compromise on his majestic hair drew your attention. Don't make his job even harder!

The new covers have been a bit bland so far, but that one looks decent.

 GaroRobe wrote:
I appreciate them not wasting a model reveal today. The marine on the left has hair?!?!?

Also are they teasing a new chaos lord? The article calls him out specifically

With all these leaks I think people will wind up very whelmed with the reveals in a couple days.

The art captures the insanity and the weird of the chaos legions. Really cool cover. Too cool actually, it looks nothing like a CSM army.

They probably mixed up the art with a black library cover.

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
I appreciate them not wasting a model reveal today. The marine on the left has hair?!?!?

Also are they teasing a new chaos lord? The article calls him out specifically

With all these leaks I think people will wind up very whelmed with the reveals in a couple days.

That's why I'm confused.

From what we know, CSM are:

*Possessed
*Bikes
*Cultist
*Possessed Cultist
*Cultist command
*And other human chaos dudes

For the article to call out specific looking cultists and then also add "And what manner of vile tyrant stands above it all, bristling with more spikes than a ceramite hedgehog?" feels like it's setting us up for disappointment

 GaroRobe wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
I appreciate them not wasting a model reveal today. The marine on the left has hair?!?!?

Also are they teasing a new chaos lord? The article calls him out specifically

With all these leaks I think people will wind up very whelmed with the reveals in a couple days.

That's why I'm confused.

From what we know, CSM are:

*Possessed
*Bikes
*Cultist
*Possessed Cultist
*Cultist command
*And other human chaos dudes

For the article to call out specific looking cultists and then also add "And what manner of vile tyrant stands above it all, bristling with more spikes than a ceramite hedgehog?" feels like it's setting us up for disappointment

Good thing we already know half of what's in the codex. The disappointment already passed

 Duskweaver wrote:

...Also, that one female cultist is blatantly a corrupted Sister Repentia.

One day we'll have Chaos Sisters ! In the mean time I have to find time to finish my kitbash...

 GaroRobe wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
I appreciate them not wasting a model reveal today. The marine on the left has hair?!?!?

Also are they teasing a new chaos lord? The article calls him out specifically

With all these leaks I think people will wind up very whelmed with the reveals in a couple days.

That's why I'm confused.

From what we know, CSM are:

*Possessed
*Bikes
*Cultist
*Possessed Cultist
*Cultist command
*And other human chaos dudes

For the article to call out specific looking cultists and then also add "And what manner of vile tyrant stands above it all, bristling with more spikes than a ceramite hedgehog?" feels like it's setting us up for disappointment

Well there's one CSM character more closely connected to the word Tyrant than most, but unless there's been some sort of radical change in fluff, his wargear is very distinct and that isn't him.

 GaroRobe wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
I appreciate them not wasting a model reveal today. The marine on the left has hair?!?!?

Also are they teasing a new chaos lord? The article calls him out specifically

With all these leaks I think people will wind up very whelmed with the reveals in a couple days.

That's why I'm confused.

From what we know, CSM are:

*Possessed
*Bikes
*Cultist
*Possessed Cultist
*Cultist command
*And other human chaos dudes

For the article to call out specific looking cultists and then also add "And what manner of vile tyrant stands above it all, bristling with more spikes than a ceramite hedgehog?" feels like it's setting us up for disappointment

Here's something to consider (and I want to make sure to say I'm not encouraging unreasonable hype).

Original B&C rumor text related to this year was this:

Bolter & Chainsword wrote:
In January 2022, we will get:

T'au:
Codex with reworked plastic Darkstrider

After January 2022, we will get (in no as-of-yet defined order):

CSM:
Plenty of new kits for 9th Edition.
Regular Possessed,
Bikers,
Chosen,
Warpsmith,
Cultists (BSF-style),
Renegade Guard (BSF-style),
human mutants,
possessed humans (the latter two are monstrously horrible. Think of the Greater Possessed but cranked up to 11),
cultist standard bearer (character),
cultist character with bodyguards.

Chaos Knights:
New Knight variant with Codex

Craftworld Eldar:
A massive, but incomplete, update of Eldar

Without a specific date but in the pipeline:
Squats
World Eaters
Daemons

Astra Militarum with veteran-style Cadians. Two new regiments are also in the works. New Kasrkin and new vehicle, designed to fit between the Leman Russ and the Baneblade.

With Chaos Knights it sounds like the leaker possibly only knew about one of the new variants since they said "new Knight variant" singular. And Eldar just said "massive but incomplete update".

Which means it's possible there's 1 or 2 models for CSM they either didn't see or forgot about when posting their rumor.

I find the notion of another new big Knight to be very unlikely.

JWBS wrote:
I find the notion of another new big Knight to be very unlikely.

I just edited my post for clarity. I meant possibly 1-2 unreported models for CSM, not CK.

I thought we had a fairly reliable leaker with CSM who didn't mention anything new, but seemed to imply the chaos HQ were limited to options we had already seen. So, basically just a thunder hammer

Dudeface wrote:
Strongly dislike the face, bit busy overall imo

The face is more devil than daemon imo. Which fits the space marine turned demon theme i guess. I LIKE IT.

 triplegrim wrote:

Dudeface wrote:
Strongly dislike the face, bit busy overall imo

The face is more devil than daemon imo. Which fits the space marine turned demon theme i guess. I LIKE IT.

I don't get it. How can a face be lawful or chaotic evil ?

Big fan of that cover. Now give us a Lord that looks like that

 Marshal Loss wrote:
Big fan of that cover. Now give us a Lord that looks like that

I thought that the Cover Art was supposed to be inspired by existing models? Either that's changed or there just might be a Chaos lord with sword/ax option coming.

 cuda1179 wrote:

 Marshal Loss wrote:
Big fan of that cover. Now give us a Lord that looks like that

I thought that the Cover Art was supposed to be inspired by existing models? Either that's changed or there just might be a Chaos lord with sword/ax option coming.

Looks at AdMech Codex

Pretty sure that changed

Nice cover, but it's what's inside the book that matters.

 Daedalus81 wrote:
With all these leaks I think people will wind up very whelmed with the reveals in a couple days.

Are you referring to the model or rules leaks? Because I personally find the rules leaks underwhelming. At this point, "whelmed" would be an upgrade.

I find myself disappointed. I don't like the cover and the leaks make me sad/angry. As an EC player I don't expect much and GW is delivering that level of results as far as I can see. Based on the leaks so far it looks like I may be out of Chaos until 10th.

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

 Daedalus81 wrote:
With all these leaks I think people will wind up very whelmed with the reveals in a couple days.

Are you referring to the model or rules leaks? Because I personally find the rules leaks underwhelming. At this point, "whelmed" would be an upgrade.

I believe Daed's reference is less about individual models or rules, but rather than this week is meant to be a big preview event, and if so much stuff gets leaked just before, it makes it difficult for GW to make a presentation which includes sufficient unknown material - usually models, or upcoming books/boxes - to excite the audience.

Or, at least, the audience who frequents forums, etc.

Which will, in turn, lead to complaints that the event is underwhelming because we knew stuff was coming - but only because people leaked material in advance.

For example, imagine how people would've reacted to news of a new plastic HH box coming if we'd not seen a potato pic (or five) last year, and only had heard of it a month or two ago...

Question: does someone know if there are rumours about kits for the great possesed, the master of possesion and the obliterators? I searched GW's webpage but they seem to be out of stock everywhere except in a few Start Collecting still available

Garrac wrote:
Question: does someone know if there are rumours about kits for the great possesed, the master of possesion and the obliterators? I searched GW's webpage but they seem to be out of stock everywhere except in a few Start Collecting still available

As far as I know, the units from Shadowspear (so those three and the Venomcrawler) are only available in the Start Collecting box at this time.

And until you asked this question, I wasn't aware that the CSM SC box had been removed from the GW webstore.

I'd imagine the MoP may get an individual clampack release with the CSM book, as he is his own sprue, but AFAIK the other three are on a mixed sprue, so... who knows?

Question: Is there any info regarding whether the Lord of Skulls is still in the CSM codex? i imagine that, like Berzerkers, it could have been carved off into the upcoming WE codex.

 Gadzilla666 wrote:
Nice cover, but it's what's inside the book that matters.

 Daedalus81 wrote:
With all these leaks I think people will wind up very whelmed with the reveals in a couple days.

Are you referring to the model or rules leaks? Because I personally find the rules leaks underwhelming. At this point, "whelmed" would be an upgrade.

I think he means the bar has been set so low that it is a practical impossibility for us to actually be underwhelmed

Leo_the_Rat wrote:
I find myself disappointed. I don't like the cover and the leaks make me sad/angry. As an EC player I don't expect much and GW is delivering that level of results as far as I can see. Based on the leaks so far it looks like I may be out of Chaos until 10th.

For what it's worth. I think we are one of the "winners" of the new codex. Ignores all/any modifiers to hit is really good as an army wide trait. But compared to what everyone else lost and our super doctrine it still feels bad. To say nothing of still lacking a real Noise marine kit.

I've been waiting for an EC Codex or Supplement for several years now... it seems I'll have to wait some more

At least the rumoured rules appear to be good.

 SarisKhan wrote:
I've been waiting for an EC Codex or Supplement for several years now... it seems I'll have to wait some more

We will get our due eventually. Hopefully in 10th if the pattern (TS in 7th, DG in 8th, WE in 9th...) continues.

Garrac wrote:
Question: does someone know if there are rumours about kits for the great possesed, the master of possesion and the obliterators? I searched GW's webpage but they seem to be out of stock everywhere except in a few Start Collecting still available

According to rumors, Greater Possessed are just Possessed in the new book, which are getting a new kit.

 Marshal Loss wrote:

 SarisKhan wrote:
I've been waiting for an EC Codex or Supplement for several years now... it seems I'll have to wait some more

We will get our due eventually. Hopefully in 10th if the pattern (TS in 7th, DG in 8th, WE in 9th...) continues.

Assuming C:WE materializes.

While many CSM rumors have been confirmed, a little skepticism is still warranted. GW's release schedule is always subject to change.

My personal, completely non-scientific opinion: the level of interest for C:EC is far greater than for C:WE.

 techsoldaten wrote:

 Marshal Loss wrote:

 SarisKhan wrote:
I've been waiting for an EC Codex or Supplement for several years now... it seems I'll have to wait some more

We will get our due eventually. Hopefully in 10th if the pattern (TS in 7th, DG in 8th, WE in 9th...) continues.

Assuming C:WE materializes.

While many CSM rumors have been confirmed, a little skepticism is still warranted. GW's release schedule is always subject to change.

My personal, completely non-scientific opinion: the level of interest for C:EC is far greater than for C:WE.

I'm not sure on that, I think that's likely because the current meta build is Emperor's children so there's more of them out there and also because its harder to see what they'll do with EC, it'll be something people can't envisage.

I have been playing EC since 3rd and while the rule that ignore modifiers is nice it's not enough to make the army, as a whole, competitive with even average codices. There hasn't even been a statement that says that Noise Marines can still be taken as troops in an EC army we are just presuming that it will stay that way. Let's face it CSM will always be the little brothers to SM and the flavor of the month. Except for one brief shining moment we have always fought to be a second tier army. Can someone tell me that last time that a CSM army won a major event? And, were there noise marine units in that/those lists?