Chaos Space Marine codex rumours and news.

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**Not Online!!!**

Behold, its an LatD analogy....

and yet the rules leaks sofar make that style of list baseline ignorable from the get go..

atleast there are cultists on the cover for once, baby step progress for once

**Garrac**

New teaser for tomorrow's announcement, with 2 chaos banners and 2 squat banners

**DreadfullyHopeful**

Garrac wrote:
New teaser for tomorrow's announcement, with 2 chaos banners and 2 squat banners

Hmmm..? Will they drop the WE bomb ?

**Gert**

No.

**xttz**

At best it'll be a WE teaser, very much doubt any models will be shown except maybe that WH+ subscription exclusive one.

The focus will be on CSM plus whatever Squats get this summer.

**Not Online!!!**

The second chaos star looks like the one asymetric one that was used to indicate R&H units in IA13

**Saturmorn Carvilli**

Leo_the_Rat wrote:
Can someone tell me that last time that a CSM army won a major event? And, were there noise marine units in that/those lists?

Six months ago, a 'Black Legion' list won a major event. It did not have Noise Marines.

What it did have was Abaddon, 3 squads of Cults and the rest was Forge World stuff.

**H.B.M.C.**

I'm expecting a full range reveal for Chaos, but then for the Squats it'll just be the rest of the squad for the one guy they've already shown.

**MajorWesJanson**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
I'm expecting a full range reveal for Chaos, but then for the Squats it'll just be the rest of the squad for the one guy they've already shown.

And maybe a squat character

**H.B.M.C.**

MajorWesJanson wrote:
And maybe a squat character

Remember that GW is exceptionally good at not showing things. Remember when they did a massive reveal for the entire upcoming Eldar range, but despite showing all the Eldar stuff could only manage to show us a picture of a single new Corsair mini because that was a Kill Team release. I would almost imagine them doing something similar here.

**cole1114**

Leo_the_Rat wrote:
I have been playing EC since 3rd and while the rule that ignore modifiers is nice it's not enough to make the army, as a whole, competitive with even average codices. There hasn't even been a statement that says that Noise Marines can still be taken as troops in an EC army we are just presuming that it will stay that way. Let's face it CSM will always be the little brothers to SM and the flavor of the month. Except for one brief shining moment we have always fought to be a second tier army. Can someone tell me that last time that a CSM army won a major event? And, were there noise marine units in that/those lists?

It was mentioned by one of the leakers that noise marines are troops for EC. As well as EC getting free Slaanesh marks for everything that can be marked (so core/characters as expected).

EC chosen with hammers has also been mentioned repeatedly as a very strong option. Hammers hitting on 2s, getting potentially +2ap on a 6 to wound, that aint bad.

**H.B.M.C.**

Can chosen even take hammers?

**GaroRobe**

I thought they could. I remember that being an option for the new guys, even tho the kit doesn’t have it

**H.B.M.C.**

Chosen are going to have "Accursed Weapons" now, rather than actual different weapons.

**cole1114**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Can chosen even take hammers?

It's mentioned in the leaks they can choose between accursed weapons and thunder hammers.

**H.B.M.C.**

But... the kit doesn't have any thunder hammers.

You sure it wasn't power fists? 'Cause it'd be real strange to go from the Thunder Hammer being quite rare within Chaos forces to being the only specialist melee weapon Chosen can take outside of "Generic Special Close Combat Weapon".

**techsoldaten**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Remember that GW is exceptionally good at not showing things. Remember when they did a massive reveal for the entire upcoming Eldar range, but despite showing all the Eldar stuff could only manage to show us a picture of a single new Corsair mini because that was a Kill Team release. I would almost imagine them doing something similar here.

The entire presentation will be the big reveal of the new Aspiring Champion sculpt.

He's now holding the multi-melta and comes with a 40mm base.

**cole1114**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
But... the kit doesn't have any thunder hammers.

You sure it wasn't power fists? 'Cause it'd be real strange to go from the Thunder Hammer being quite rare within Chaos forces to being the only specialist melee weapon Chosen can take outside of "Generic Special Close Combat Weapon".

It's on page one of this thread. They can take thunder hammers. Maybe when they get a non-box-set release they'll be on the sprues.

**H.B.M.C.**

What? They'll be on the sprues?

The Chosen in that kit is the kit. There isn't another one.

**Gadzilla666**

cole1114 wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
But... the kit doesn't have any thunder hammers.

You sure it wasn't power fists? 'Cause it'd be real strange to go from the Thunder Hammer being quite rare within Chaos forces to being the only specialist melee weapon Chosen can take outside of "Generic Special Close Combat Weapon".

It's on page one of this thread. They can take thunder hammers. Maybe when they get a non-box-set release they'll be on the sprues.

That particular part of the leaks originated from 4chan, and is therefore pretty suspect. I seriously doubt that the standalone Chosen release will include anything that isn't in the Chaos vs Eldar box.

**NinthMusketeer**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Chosen are going to have "Accursed Weapons" now, rather than actual different weapons.

Ok fun question; which would you choose between that and what plague marines have for melee?

**H.B.M.C.**

Accursed Weapons.

At least then your modelling isn't artificially restricted via rules.

**EviscerationPlague**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Accursed Weapons.

At least then your modelling isn't artificially restricted via rules.

It's weird that the Accursed Weapon is more preferred, huh? That's what happens with the NMNR and building strictly from the box though!

**Wha-Mu-077**

Watch them reveal the exact same Squat, again.

**NinthMusketeer**

EviscerationPlague wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
Accursed Weapons.

At least then your modelling isn't artificially restricted via rules.

It's weird that the Accursed Weapon is more preferred, huh? That's what happens with the NMNR and building strictly from the box though!

Well GW heard the criticism of the rules being unfun because they took customization of weapon options away, forcing players to use a locked gear set up that was impractical to use, but they skipped the core part of the argument and went straight to 'oh, the impracticality is the problem here!'

**Arbitrator**

Wha-Mu-077 wrote:
Watch them reveal the exact same Squat, again.

The same squat, but he's accompanied by the four silhouettes from the initial reveal.

**Fayric**

Chosen will probably see an "actual" kit much like the lojalist blade guard and assault intercessors got new boxes rather than the starterset monopose models.

The chosen they resently released was clearly a novelty joke, and the final rules for optional wargear will not be daft. Right?

**Wha-Mu-077**

Fayric wrote:
Chosen will probably see an "actual" kit much like the lojalist blade guard and assault intercessors got new boxes rather than the starterset monopose models.

The chosen they resently released was clearly a novelty joke, and the final rules for optional wargear will not be daft. Right?

I'd say the difference is - the Bladeguard and Assault Intercessors are from a launch box, not from a regular boxed set.

**Dudeface**

Time for any wild predictions and the like for the reveal? I know we know what to expect roughly, but any specifics to take a punt on?

**Wha-Mu-077**

Dudeface wrote:
Time for any wild predictions and the like for the reveal? I know we know what to expect roughly, but any specifics to take a punt on?

An hour of pointless filler talk
A single Squat
An hour of pointless filler talk
A single Chaos Marine
An hour of pointless filler talk
A trailer for a proper reveal later down the line.