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So we know that Kill Team renegade guard can be used in CSM codex, but did they mention if the kit is multipart?

Vargheist wrote:
So we know that Kill Team renegade guard can be used in CSM codex, but did they mention if the kit is multipart?

Yes, the kit has options to make specialists for kill team, or standard chaos guardsmen with lasguns. The commissar and ogryn only build one way, but have a couple of cosmetic options.

With this, the ONLY THING WE NEED IS BIKERS

WHERE MY CHAOS BIKERS AT GW PLEASE I'M BEGGING YOU

Holding out for maybe a reveal on Monday that they held back, it's the only thing from the otherwise 100% accurate chaos rumors.

Although he wasn't part of the BIG RUMORDUMP, there's also Huron. That's got to be who that claw for the Rumour Engine belongs to.

Vargheist wrote:
So we know that Kill Team renegade guard can be used in CSM codex, but did they mention if the kit is multipart?

It is, even if they didn't mention it. You can see where they reused the CAD designs from BSF (on a new sprue) and a couple places where the heads & arms are just stuck on with blu-tack. The guy firing a rifle over a knife is really distinct, as is the sergeant.

Gadzilla666 wrote: Although he wasn't part of the BIG RUMORDUMP, there's also Huron. That's got to be who that claw for the Rumour Engine belongs to.

It might be. I'm still holding out hope for a secret daemon engine (even just a multipart version of the venomcrawler), or maybe some sort of biker thing (a warp smith on bike!). No idea why they wouldn't show off the last couple things, though. (and that includes Huron, if it is indeed him)

Voss wrote:

Gadzilla666 wrote: Although he wasn't part of the BIG RUMORDUMP, there's also Huron. That's got to be who that claw for the Rumour Engine belongs to.

It might be. I'm still holding out hope for a secret daemon engine (even just a multipart version of the venomcrawler), or maybe some sort of biker thing (a warp smith on bike!). No idea why they wouldn't show off the last couple things, though. (and that includes Huron, if it is indeed him)

Could be that they're holding some back to show later (remember how long they stretched out the Eldar reveals), or they'll be tied to a different release. It's gw, there's no telling.

Edit: If they are releasing a new Huron model, it could be possible that they're saving its reveal to coincide with the new Huron novel.

Remind me, what claw are we talking about here?


Never mind, found it!


For some reason, I thought that had been solved with the War Dog kit.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Remind me, what claw are we talking about here?


Never mind, found it!

Spoiler:

For some reason, I thought that had been solved with the War Dog kit.

There's a weird chaos hammer too, right? One that isn't from the warsmith

 GaroRobe wrote:


There's a weird chaos hammer too, right? One that isn't from the warsmith

Maybe an alternate weapon for the demon prince? I'm still hoping it's surprise Perturabo.

 BertBert wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:


There's a weird chaos hammer too, right? One that isn't from the warsmith

Maybe an alternate weapon for the demon prince? I'm still hoping it's surprise Perturabo.

I'm still hoping it's a new Chaos Lord. With options. Like a jump pack.

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

 BertBert wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:


There's a weird chaos hammer too, right? One that isn't from the warsmith

Maybe an alternate weapon for the demon prince? I'm still hoping it's surprise Perturabo.

I'm still hoping it's a new Chaos Lord. With options. Like a jump pack.

I've long since given up hope on that, but it sounds like a beautiful dream.

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

Voss wrote:

Gadzilla666 wrote: Although he wasn't part of the BIG RUMORDUMP, there's also Huron. That's got to be who that claw for the Rumour Engine belongs to.

It might be. I'm still holding out hope for a secret daemon engine (even just a multipart version of the venomcrawler), or maybe some sort of biker thing (a warp smith on bike!). No idea why they wouldn't show off the last couple things, though. (and that includes Huron, if it is indeed him)

Could be that they're holding some back to show later (remember how long they stretched out the Eldar reveals), or they'll be tied to a different release. It's gw, there's no telling.

Edit: If they are releasing a new Huron model, it could be possible that they're saving its reveal to coincide with the new Huron novel.

But even if the preview could be the right hand (it looks left, I'd be surprised if they arbitrarily changed that) why would the limited edition book cover feature his current design (power fist with a clear chaos star palm) vs the new design (long talons around the flamer)? It seems really odd that they would redesign the look so dramatically to coincide with a book featuring the old one.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

Voss wrote:

Gadzilla666 wrote: Although he wasn't part of the BIG RUMORDUMP, there's also Huron. That's got to be who that claw for the Rumour Engine belongs to.

It might be. I'm still holding out hope for a secret daemon engine (even just a multipart version of the venomcrawler), or maybe some sort of biker thing (a warp smith on bike!). No idea why they wouldn't show off the last couple things, though. (and that includes Huron, if it is indeed him)

Could be that they're holding some back to show later (remember how long they stretched out the Eldar reveals), or they'll be tied to a different release. It's gw, there's no telling.

Edit: If they are releasing a new Huron model, it could be possible that they're saving its reveal to coincide with the new Huron novel.

But even if the preview could be the right hand (it looks left, I'd be surprised if they arbitrarily changed that) why would the limited edition book cover feature his current design (power fist with a clear chaos star palm) vs the new design (long talons around the flamer)? It seems really odd that they would redesign the look so dramatically to coincide with a book featuring the old one.

Hmm, I haven't seen that. Well, maybe it isn't Huron's claw after all. But I do seem to remember Clockworkchris saying that his "hand" worked like a claw in the new codex instead of a power fist. And pictures can be reversed. I'll see if I can find the quote.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:

 Gadzilla666 wrote:

Voss wrote:

Gadzilla666 wrote: Although he wasn't part of the BIG RUMORDUMP, there's also Huron. That's got to be who that claw for the Rumour Engine belongs to.

It might be. I'm still holding out hope for a secret daemon engine (even just a multipart version of the venomcrawler), or maybe some sort of biker thing (a warp smith on bike!). No idea why they wouldn't show off the last couple things, though. (and that includes Huron, if it is indeed him)

Could be that they're holding some back to show later (remember how long they stretched out the Eldar reveals), or they'll be tied to a different release. It's gw, there's no telling.

Edit: If they are releasing a new Huron model, it could be possible that they're saving its reveal to coincide with the new Huron novel.

But even if the preview could be the right hand (it looks left, I'd be surprised if they arbitrarily changed that) why would the limited edition book cover feature his current design (power fist with a clear chaos star palm) vs the new design (long talons around the flamer)? It seems really odd that they would redesign the look so dramatically to coincide with a book featuring the old one.

The thumb Claw looks like it could be right in the middle (think like a bird talon I guess?) So it could still possibly be Huron.

The selfish part of me hopes Huron gets rules to make him almost auto-include because there's only so much I can do with my proxy guy.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Remind me, what claw are we talking about here?


Never mind, found it!

Spoiler:

For some reason, I thought that had been solved with the War Dog kit.

Looking at the claw, it's on the wrong side to be Huron. Based on the thumb that's a left hand, but Huron's claw is his right hand:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Looking at the claw, it's on the wrong side to be Huron. Based on the thumb that's a left hand, but Huron's claw is his right hand:

Spoiler:

They could have flipped the image to throw people off the scent.

 cole1114 wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
Looking at the claw, it's on the wrong side to be Huron. Based on the thumb that's a left hand, but Huron's claw is his right hand:

Spoiler:

They could have flipped the image to throw people off the scent.

They could but they haven't done that yet as far as I know.

Sorry if this has been asked already but we do know roughly what month the CSM codex will be releasing? Also, do we have any idea what the PPM will be for Traitor Guardsmen? I'm looking forward to incorporating my BSF models into a Chaos army.

No, and no.

 The Red Hobbit wrote:
Sorry if this has been asked already but we do know roughly what month the CSM codex will be releasing? Also, do we have any idea what the PPM will be for Traitor Guardsmen?

1. Later that we want.
2. Far more than they're worth.

If there is indeed a "traitor" guardsmen entry in the Chaos codex (not just cultists) what are the chances of anything else from the IG making its way in there? Leman Russ perhaps?

 cuda1179 wrote:
If there is indeed a "traitor" guardsmen entry in the Chaos codex (not just cultists) what are the chances of anything else from the IG making its way in there? Leman Russ perhaps?

Again so far all the cultists and traitor guard releases point torwards being reimagined versions of already former available options/listiterations:

Command squad of the cultists, f.e. is the classic higher echelons of how chaos cults work with priest, iconbearer and magister.
The smaller possessed / mutants and biger mutants hark back to preciscly the initial LatD list and have also been part of R&H forces since some time.
The "Enforcer" as they name the chaos commissar is basically the vraks name for them that stuck around for the chaos equivalent of morale officers. The fact that he also is and has so far been an HQ slot may well indicate that we could look at a sub list, which may or may not indeed get access to guard choices via regiment swap, indeed the keyword "militarum traitoris" kinda indicates atleast verbally a connection so we may well look at rules that allow for keyword swaps to gain access to guard heavy weaponry and vehicles.

the only thing really missing would be a kit of traitor ogryns these are , next to priests and rogue psykers (which arguably are covered with the cult command squad) the only thing that is missing for a full R&H/ traitor guard list we had access in the past.

It'd be basically 0 effort for gw to add such a sublist / subrule. Probably with access to build a bear trait? with some stipulations on what you are not allowed to pick?
Certainly would generate a lot of good will. Probably will require the IG codex though.

I'm no leaker, but I would bet CSM are going to be released this month, since, acording to the leaks, HH will start on june. I don't think they'll release both at the same time (may happen still)

Imperial/Chaos Knights are this month.
CSM will either be June or July.

 Gert wrote:
Imperial/Chaos Knights are this month.
CSM will either be June or July.

The it would be june, because we already know that, acording to the leaks, sylvaneth and the new starterbox will come on july. (and that month there are more HH releases)

Maybe it's my innerhypedself who's talking now

Garrac wrote:

 Gert wrote:
Imperial/Chaos Knights are this month.
CSM will either be June or July.

The it would be june, because we already know that, acording to the leaks, sylvaneth and the new starterbox will come on july. (and that moth there are more HH releases)

Maybe it's my innerhypedself who's talking now

The Heresy box in June.

 ImAGeek wrote:

Garrac wrote:

 Gert wrote:
Imperial/Chaos Knights are this month.
CSM will either be June or July.

The it would be june, because we already know that, acording to the leaks, sylvaneth and the new starterbox will come on july. (and that moth there are more HH releases)

Maybe it's my innerhypedself who's talking now

The Heresy box in June.

Yeah, it starts on june, and runs to september.

Garrac wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

Garrac wrote:

 Gert wrote:
Imperial/Chaos Knights are this month.
CSM will either be June or July.

The it would be june, because we already know that, acording to the leaks, sylvaneth and the new starterbox will come on july. (and that moth there are more HH releases)

Maybe it's my innerhypedself who's talking now

The Heresy box in June.

Yeah, it starts on june, and runs to september.

Huh?

 ImAGeek wrote:

Garrac wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

Garrac wrote:

 Gert wrote:
Imperial/Chaos Knights are this month.
CSM will either be June or July.

The it would be june, because we already know that, acording to the leaks, sylvaneth and the new starterbox will come on july. (and that month there are more HH releases)

Maybe it's my innerhypedself who's talking now

The Heresy box in June.

Yeah, it starts on june, and runs to september.

Huh?

According to the rumours, in june comes out the starter box, and in the rest of the summer there'll be more HH releases.

But as the starterboxes of HH and AoS come in june-july I don't know if GW would pack the CSM, as bug as it is, in between (and it seems there'll be various waves)

Ironically I don't see the knights as a major release. So, I personally thinl that next week we'll have the preorders, or at least by the end of the month

It's not rumor that HH comes out in June. They confirmed it on stream.