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I wouldn't read too much into it.


Seriously I wouldn't, one part of it is just your standard company age rating suggestion. Chances are there's a warning small parts somewhere and other things.


And freaking yes GW stuff is toys. Even most collectable things are just toys.

 Overread wrote:
I wouldn't read too much into it.


Seriously I wouldn't, one part of it is just your standard company age rating suggestion. Chances are there's a warning small parts somewhere and other things.


And freaking yes GW stuff is toys. Even most collectable things are just toys.

I've not really seen model kits referred to as toys before, outside of something like Revell's "build and play" stuff.

RazorEdge wrote:

From the Startpost

* These products will not be available through games-workshop.com in the USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, or China.

Yeah, they apparently had to add the caveat...but they didn't add it until Wednesday it looks like. Buncha gits.

 Mentlegen324 wrote:

 Overread wrote:
I wouldn't read too much into it.


Seriously I wouldn't, one part of it is just your standard company age rating suggestion. Chances are there's a warning small parts somewhere and other things.


And freaking yes GW stuff is toys. Even most collectable things are just toys.

I've not really seen model kits referred to as toys before, outside of something like Revell's "build and play" stuff.

Someone clearly does since model kits from various companies were offered in ToysRUs and still are in the toy sections of Walmarts and Targets.

I believe it’s a legal thing here in the UK; toys have a lot of very stringent regulations to make sure they’re not a choking hazard, poisonous, flammable, etc. You can sidestep all of those by putting “not a toy” on your product.

tneva82 wrote:

JWBS wrote:
For the record I prefer plastic, for all the reasons one might think. Back in the day I was willing to go to the extra lengths to make resin work, but these days I generally want minimum frustration in what's supposed to be a relaxing hobby. I still generally put a lot of effort into my painting (which can be frustrating) but I've crossed the line of tolerating it in cleaning / building minis.

Ah yes. Having another glue on shelf is sooooooooooooo stressfull

I take that over bazillion tiny pieces in weird shapes you need to glue to get what resin gets in one piece with better details.

This is a good point, the new plastics are terrible to build! A bazillion tiny pieces that you can't just figure out what order or where they go without following the instructions. Resin minis are more like old times plastics most of the time, you glue an arm, a weapon, a backpack and you are done. None of this 3B is part of the middle finger of the left hand crap.

 Illumini wrote:

This is a good point, the new plastics are terrible to build! A bazillion tiny pieces that you can't just figure out what order or where they go without following the instructions. Resin minis are more like old times plastics most of the time, you glue an arm, a weapon, a backpack and you are done. None of this 3B is part of the middle finger of the left hand crap.

Seconded, I built the Necron Psychomancer a couple of weeks back and it was nightmare, so many tiny components that needed to be fitted just right, with very limited locking points to let you feel when the part was in the right place, and sometimes sprue attachment points on the joins, which means they are nicely hidden but you have to get the join filed to exactly the right shape to get it to fit cleanly (too little off and it doesn't sit flush, too much of and you lose what little locking there was and potentially end up with a gap). Plus the long multipart tentacles that were built in sections and which both had to eventually end up lined up perfectly where they joined up again! I don't think you'd have a chance without the instructions.

Compared to a FW Warlord Titan, which obviously took work due to the size and the need to pin/clean-up, but really obvious how pieces went together and I reckon you could build it easily enough without the instructions and just a picture of the finished model (A.K.A. an old style forgeworld instruction sheet), only tricky bit would probably be working out which pistons were which!

 Illumini wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

JWBS wrote:
For the record I prefer plastic, for all the reasons one might think. Back in the day I was willing to go to the extra lengths to make resin work, but these days I generally want minimum frustration in what's supposed to be a relaxing hobby. I still generally put a lot of effort into my painting (which can be frustrating) but I've crossed the line of tolerating it in cleaning / building minis.

Ah yes. Having another glue on shelf is sooooooooooooo stressfull

I take that over bazillion tiny pieces in weird shapes you need to glue to get what resin gets in one piece with better details.

This is a good point, the new plastics are terrible to build! A bazillion tiny pieces that you can't just figure out what order or where they go without following the instructions. Resin minis are more like old times plastics most of the time, you glue an arm, a weapon, a backpack and you are done. None of this 3B is part of the middle finger of the left hand crap.

yes, I guess if the hand has fingers at all! (or webbed fingers is another one)

I got the Warpath starter a while ago and that was probably one of the nicest designed plastic kits I have seen from GW. All of the bits fit together beautifully, and you had very specific instructions included. Think this would definitely have appealed to the Boardgamegeek crowd as I think even someone with no experience at all of kit building would have been able to assemble with little trouble. The downside, obviously you don't have the range of options, can't pose the miniatures etc.

Sgt. Cortez wrote:
Miscasts are only a problem with really old kits. I've bought some HH and Lotr models recently and they easily beat GW plastics concerning detail and are on par with Artel W and Wargame Exklusive, which I see as the best models available currently.

Sure, just old...

Like the Dire Wolf.

Take a look at the AT armigers people has gotten on the AT threads, and get back to us.