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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/03/24 18:16:14
Subject: Re:Would you accept a Whirlwind as a Substitute for an Exorcist?
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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ccs wrote: bullyboy wrote:I have more of an issue with someone who doesn't like the exorcist. I mean, let's be serious, it's absolutely glorious!!
You're right, it is glorious:
Well played sir, well played
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/03/24 18:27:02
Subject: Would you accept a Whirlwind as a Substitute for an Exorcist?
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Master Engineer with a Brace of Pistols
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CCS
So true. GW models are expensive, if i own the original exorcist without a hull HB that is a GW model (including the FW one), or i own a whirlwind painted in SOB colors and icons, or i sub in a marine one i already own as a stand in and you take issue with it, then you are not the kind of person i would want to be playing a game with. i have better things to do with 2 hours of my free time other than argue with you over aesthetics.
As for the model bits. i own 2 DA rhino chassis that can also be razorbacks and whirlwinds because all it requires to switch over is a simple single piece bits swap.
Now the true glorious long OOP SOB model is the repressor. i miss this model.
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GAMES-DUST1947/infinity/B5 wars/epic 40K/5th ed 40K/victory at sea/warmachine/battle tactics/monpoc/battletech/battlefleet gothic/castles in the sky,/heavy gear/MCP |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/03/24 18:27:44
Subject: Would you accept a Whirlwind as a Substitute for an Exorcist?
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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DeathKorp_Rider wrote:Just trying to gauge how people would feel about this. I honestly hate the aesthetic of the Exorcist but like something like the Whirlwind. So would people make this into a big issue?
I'd accept a piece of paper in roughly the right dimensions with a thing on top for size reference.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/03/24 18:32:30
Subject: Re:Would you accept a Whirlwind as a Substitute for an Exorcist?
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Sinister Chaos Marine
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Are these Exorcists or Whirlwinds?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/03/24 18:58:30
Subject: Would you accept a Whirlwind as a Substitute for an Exorcist?
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Fixture of Dakka
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aphyon wrote:CCS
So true. GW models are expensive, if i own the original exorcist without a hull HB that is a GW model (including the FW one), or i own a whirlwind painted in SOB colors and icons, or i sub in a marine one i already own as a stand in and you take issue with it, then you are not the kind of person i would want to be playing a game with. i have better things to do with 2 hours of my free time other than argue with you over aesthetics.
As for the model bits. i own 2 DA rhino chassis that can also be razorbacks and whirlwinds because all it requires to switch over is a simple single piece bits swap.
Now the true glorious long OOP SOB model is the repressor. i miss this model.
Well here you go: https://www.warhammer-community.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/1qpk5gayVm5VmR4f.pdf
If you choose not to make full use of the rules for this game that's on you ....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/03/24 19:14:53
Subject: Would you accept a Whirlwind as a Substitute for an Exorcist?
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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ccs wrote:DeathKorp_Rider wrote:I guess that leads me to ask, is a Sororitas Rhino the same model as a SM Rhino with different accessories?
Yes, the SoB bitz are on their own sprue.
This is true b-b-but I want to mention that the Soritas vehicles are a little different, especially when it comes to the current Exorcist - Nevelon touched on this a little.
Historically Rhino-pattern vehicles were a rhino and a spare sprue, like for a Razorback or Whirlwind or Demolisher. This is not universally true across the Sororitas line. The Sororitas Rhino is like the above, a stock Rhino with an extra sprue. So, technically yes.
The Immolator and Castigator are absolutely not like that - there is a Sororified Rhino Sprue and a second sprue to whatever variant. Looking at the Exorcist, it's the same thing - a Sororofied Rhino sprue and an Exorcist specific sprue. They are not the same as an SM or even SOB Rhino and they are not interchangeable partswise.
This seems a salient point since we're talking about the Exorcist vs Rhino a little here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/03/24 19:51:37
Subject: Re:Would you accept a Whirlwind as a Substitute for an Exorcist?
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Confessor Of Sins
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I have two of the FW pattern Exorcist for my SOB army. Need to get one of my friends with 3D printers to print me up Heavy Bolters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/03/24 20:46:05
Subject: Re:Would you accept a Whirlwind as a Substitute for an Exorcist?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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ccs wrote: bullyboy wrote:I have more of an issue with someone who doesn't like the exorcist. I mean, let's be serious, it's absolutely glorious!!
You're right, it is glorious:
Honestly, I'd've gone with "dull as dishwater" instead of "glorious" there, but different strokes for different folks.
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/03/24 23:11:17
Subject: Would you accept a Whirlwind as a Substitute for an Exorcist?
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Think I’ll try making one with a kromlech zephyr turret, those look good for the role
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/03/25 00:14:46
Subject: Re:Would you accept a Whirlwind as a Substitute for an Exorcist?
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Fixture of Dakka
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alextroy wrote:I have two of the FW pattern Exorcist for my SOB army. Need to get one of my friends with 3D printers to print me up Heavy Bolters.
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Just a thought, but have you considered a hull heavy bolter from the Chimera chassis? I think that's what I will do.
My sister's army was pieced together around 2004ish, just around the time marines were getting their last rhino hull variant and Sisters still had the Rogue Trader Rhino hull. My Exorcists are old-school hulls with 1/35 scale helicopter missile pods on top.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/03/25 00:59:07
Subject: Re:Would you accept a Whirlwind as a Substitute for an Exorcist?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I’d be a bit of a hypocrite if I didn’t accept one…
But I’m a little sad this oldie, but IMNSHO goodie, hadn’t shown up yet. The old US Mail Order Troll newsletter offered this conversion kit back when the Exorcist was a brand new thing. It was, at the time, the closest thing to an “official” model that GW offered. You know, back when GW made rules for models that didn’t exist?
Apologies for the poor pictures. My photo booth isn't set up right now.
And, yeah, positive about the MO Troll bit cuz it was based on my conversion…
Valete,
JohnS
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Valete,
JohnS
"You don't believe data - you test data. If I could put my finger on the moment we genuinely <expletive deleted> ourselves, it was the moment we decided that data was something you could use words like believe or disbelieve around"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/03/25 05:26:56
Subject: Re:Would you accept a Whirlwind as a Substitute for an Exorcist?
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Master Engineer with a Brace of Pistols
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Well here you go
Well it is nice they still have rules for it i suppose, but i do not play 9th ed. i would be just fine running it as it was in our 5th ed games. a rhino ( AV 11/11/10) that is a fast vehicle with a seige shield, pintle storm bolter/heavy flamer, 6 bolter fire points and a top hatch to pop out a sister with another heavy weapon (we all know it is another heavy flamer  )
It is the ultimate "drive by" transport for sisters.
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GAMES-DUST1947/infinity/B5 wars/epic 40K/5th ed 40K/victory at sea/warmachine/battle tactics/monpoc/battletech/battlefleet gothic/castles in the sky,/heavy gear/MCP |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/03/25 09:53:52
Subject: Re:Would you accept a Whirlwind as a Substitute for an Exorcist?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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cuda1179 wrote: alextroy wrote:I have two of the FW pattern Exorcist for my SOB army. Need to get one of my friends with 3D printers to print me up Heavy Bolters.
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Just a thought, but have you considered a hull heavy bolter from the Chimera chassis? I think that's what I will do.
Still going to need some form of hull modification for the mount, though.
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/03/25 10:42:13
Subject: Re:Would you accept a Whirlwind as a Substitute for an Exorcist?
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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Dysartes wrote: cuda1179 wrote: alextroy wrote:I have two of the FW pattern Exorcist for my SOB army. Need to get one of my friends with 3D printers to print me up Heavy Bolters.
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Just a thought, but have you considered a hull heavy bolter from the Chimera chassis? I think that's what I will do.
Still going to need some form of hull modification for the mount, though.
Use something like these for the hatches?
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Space-Marine-Legion-Pintle-Weapons-Set
The pintle mount MM from the LRC kit would also be a good place to start. Clip on HBs can also be found on attack bikes and land speeders, rigging them to a hatch mount would not be hard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/03/25 11:23:00
Subject: Re:Would you accept a Whirlwind as a Substitute for an Exorcist?
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Witch Hunter in the Shadows
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Whirlwind exorcists (and variants such as valkyrie pod exorcists, etc) have never been all that uncommon, and not even 'unfluffy' given the similar appearance of the Sanctorum ( FW) variant.
alextroy wrote:I have two of the FW pattern Exorcist for my SOB army. Need to get one of my friends with 3D printers to print me up Heavy Bolters.
The old FW exorcist and immolator kits are excellent fits for their heresy-era rhinos too, though IIRC the sisters stuff was discontinued just before the demios sets were released.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/03/25 12:25:49
Subject: Re:Would you accept a Whirlwind as a Substitute for an Exorcist?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Dysartes wrote:ccs wrote: bullyboy wrote:I have more of an issue with someone who doesn't like the exorcist. I mean, let's be serious, it's absolutely glorious!!
You're right, it is glorious:
Honestly, I'd've gone with "dull as dishwater" instead of "glorious" there, but different strokes for different folks.
I'd rather use my glorious/dull as dishwater but functional FW turrets until the end of time vs even own the stupid-as-  looking gimmick pipe organ version.
The difference between the original pipe organ & the current kit? The current kit IS the better looking of the two. But it's still just too stupid & gimmicky looking for my taste in missile launchers.
Now if an opponent would accept the pipe organ tank as a proxy for one of the various sister characters that hand out unit buffs I'd consider owning a few. Or if GW would just make such a vehicle unit....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/03/25 13:02:39
Subject: Re:Would you accept a Whirlwind as a Substitute for an Exorcist?
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Witch Hunter in the Shadows
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ccs wrote:Now if an opponent would accept the pipe organ tank as a proxy for one of the various sister characters that hand out unit buffs I'd consider owning a few. Or if GW would just make such a vehicle unit....
Something like this?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/03/25 13:27:48
Subject: Re:Would you accept a Whirlwind as a Substitute for an Exorcist?
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Dakka Veteran
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A.T. wrote:ccs wrote:Now if an opponent would accept the pipe organ tank as a proxy for one of the various sister characters that hand out unit buffs I'd consider owning a few. Or if GW would just make such a vehicle unit....
Something like this?

That thing is amazing  I love it!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/03/25 14:11:05
Subject: Re:Would you accept a Whirlwind as a Substitute for an Exorcist?
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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A.T. wrote:ccs wrote:Now if an opponent would accept the pipe organ tank as a proxy for one of the various sister characters that hand out unit buffs I'd consider owning a few. Or if GW would just make such a vehicle unit....
Something like this?

I'd say that was a terrible waste of a Karamazov model, but when I used him in 7th it was modeled with the legs and torso of a metal Sentinel topped with the turret off of a Baneblade.
Voss wrote:If you don't like the aesthetics and design of the army you picked, that sounds like a you problem.
Considering that I use Ork Shoota Boyz as Kroot and I have a BUNCH of cultists and traitor guard to use as Astra Militarum...
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'No plan survives contact with the enemy. Who are we?'
'THE ENEMY!!!'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/03/25 14:31:57
Subject: Would you accept a Whirlwind as a Substitute for an Exorcist?
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Dakka Veteran
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EviscerationPlague wrote: Dolnikan wrote:I don't see why anyone would refuse that unless someone were to be playing some kind of Sister/Marine soup where confusion could happen. It's a tank that fires missiles and even the size police shouldn't be able to complain because the chassis is the same as well.
Why would there be confusion? You're not going to using both rules at once.
The only confusion I can imagine is if you were to have a space marine and a sisters combined army, and even then it depends on the paint. I can imagine some people being confused then. I personally wouldn't really care, but that's just me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/03/25 14:44:17
Subject: Would you accept a Whirlwind as a Substitute for an Exorcist?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Props on the Karamzovorcist- it's amazing!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/03/25 14:51:43
Subject: Would you accept a Whirlwind as a Substitute for an Exorcist?
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Witch Hunter in the Shadows
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Thanks. It was for the old choir of faith formation and I needed something even more ludicrous than the regular exorcist to serve as the command tank.
It got used once, and was immediately flattened by an orc rok that missed its intended target by about five feet :p
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/03/25 16:23:27
Subject: Would you accept a Whirlwind as a Substitute for an Exorcist?
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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A.T. wrote:Thanks. It was for the old choir of faith formation and I needed something even more ludicrous than the regular exorcist to serve as the command tank.
It got used once, and was immediately flattened by an orc rok that missed its intended target by about five feet :p
Weeks of planning, hours of making, seconds of destruction
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/03/25 16:31:22
Subject: Re:Would you accept a Whirlwind as a Substitute for an Exorcist?
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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To the thread's question...
I'd like to see some Sister-izing of the model. Add some Fleurs to it and whatnot. But honestly, given it's right about the same size, I'd have no issues with it being used as an Exorcist.
The only exception would be if you were fielding a mixed Sisters/Marines force and had both Whirlwinds as Whirlwinds and Whirlwinds as Exorcists.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/03/25 16:37:28
Subject: Would you accept a Whirlwind as a Substitute for an Exorcist?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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A.T. wrote:Thanks. It was for the old choir of faith formation and I needed something even more ludicrous than the regular exorcist to serve as the command tank.
It got used once, and was immediately flattened by an orc rok that missed its intended target by about five feet :p
I just wish good ol' Kara had cool rules again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/03/25 18:07:58
Subject: Re:Would you accept a Whirlwind as a Substitute for an Exorcist?
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Battleship Captain
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ccs wrote: Dysartes wrote:ccs wrote: bullyboy wrote:I have more of an issue with someone who doesn't like the exorcist. I mean, let's be serious, it's absolutely glorious!!
You're right, it is glorious:
Honestly, I'd've gone with "dull as dishwater" instead of "glorious" there, but different strokes for different folks.
I'd rather use my glorious/dull as dishwater but functional FW turrets until the end of time vs even own the stupid-as-  looking gimmick pipe organ version.
I think you're playing the wrong game if over the top aesthetics bother you.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/03/25 21:20:31
Subject: Re:Would you accept a Whirlwind as a Substitute for an Exorcist?
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Inquisitorial Keeper of the Xenobanks
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No doubt Sim, no doubt…
And wow, I loved the Trolls. That was awesome, back then, the things that they would come up with on the phone. I once called to order Bret cavalry, ended up with one of each model plus a boatload of hex bottle inks and paints and glazes and so much fantastic stuff. Got the old LR conversion kit once too, and made three tanks from it. Trolls were the best thing about GW, them and the old paper bits catalogues. I feel sad for young ones who missed out on that experience, … and this tank is awesome!
cygnnus wrote:I’d be a bit of a hypocrite if I didn’t accept one…
But I’m a little sad this oldie, but IMNSHO goodie, hadn’t shown up yet. The old US Mail Order Troll newsletter offered this conversion kit back when the Exorcist was a brand new thing. It was, at the time, the closest thing to an “official” model that GW offered. You know, back when GW made rules for models that didn’t exist?
Apologies for the poor pictures. My photo booth isn't set up right now.
And, yeah, positive about the MO Troll bit cuz it was based on my conversion…
Valete,
JohnS
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/03/26 03:04:23
Subject: Re:Would you accept a Whirlwind as a Substitute for an Exorcist?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Dysartes wrote: cuda1179 wrote: alextroy wrote:I have two of the FW pattern Exorcist for my SOB army. Need to get one of my friends with 3D printers to print me up Heavy Bolters.
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Just a thought, but have you considered a hull heavy bolter from the Chimera chassis? I think that's what I will do.
Still going to need some form of hull modification for the mount, though.
Actually, I don't think you do. I've always painted the back-end of those Heavy bolters to look like flexible leather/rubber. Kind of a grommet seal for the weapon. If you just glue it right one it wouldn't look unreasonable.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/03/26 03:22:04
Subject: Re:Would you accept a Whirlwind as a Substitute for an Exorcist?
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cuda1179 wrote: Dysartes wrote: cuda1179 wrote: alextroy wrote:I have two of the FW pattern Exorcist for my SOB army. Need to get one of my friends with 3D printers to print me up Heavy Bolters.
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Just a thought, but have you considered a hull heavy bolter from the Chimera chassis? I think that's what I will do.
Still going to need some form of hull modification for the mount, though.
Actually, I don't think you do. I've always painted the back-end of those Heavy bolters to look like flexible leather/rubber. Kind of a grommet seal for the weapon. If you just glue it right one it wouldn't look unreasonable.
You might want to trim/greenstuff the backside since they have that weird semi-tab thing to fit into the mounting, but that'd be pretty trivial to pull off if so (image in spoiler if you've never worked with them before).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2022/03/27 22:58:15
Subject: Would you accept a Whirlwind as a Substitute for an Exorcist?
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Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader
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If the weapons are modelled properly and you don't have any of the same model in your army being run as something else, it would even be fine in tournaments.
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