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I saw that they are discontinuing about 23 models or components for HH/40K. With their continued culling of models, massive price spikes, producing plastic Krieg, and plans to introduce plastic Horus Heresy, it seems like they are eliminating more product then they are adding. What’s their game plan, eventually eliminate the site completely?

FW has had problems getting new molds when old ones wear out. Wheather thats a feasibility thing or a business decision to discontinue product I don't know.

Fw used to actually pair decently well with / was at least viable (or often times very very competitive) in 40k. That is no longer the case and the development of fw as an expansion to your games is seemingly no longer a strategy they have.

Resin 3d printers have essentially already made FW resin obsolete.

Personally I think Forgeworld has been slowly getting phased out ever since the dawn of 8th.

DeathKorp_Rider wrote:
I saw that they are discontinuing about 23 models or components for HH/40K. With their continued culling of models, massive price spikes, producing plastic Krieg, and plans to introduce plastic Horus Heresy, it seems like they are eliminating more product then they are adding. What’s their game plan, eventually eliminate the site completely?

Edit2: removed because I can't read.

Forgeworld will likely still be around, they sell the Titans and Legion specific units after all.

I wonder if they're in part trying to clear stock/space/workload to prepare for The Old World? Might explain why Heresy is moving under the GW umbrella.

Holy crap FW is expensive, been a while since I even went to the site and wow, it's always been pricey but that's some next-level stuff. $80 books? $70 rhinos? Lordy.

There's always been a strong stench of inter-office politics in how Forge World has been treated, which got much worse after the passing of Alan Bligh.

DeathKorp_Rider wrote:
I saw that they are discontinuing about 23 models or components for HH/40K. With their continued culling of models, massive price spikes, producing plastic Krieg, and plans to introduce plastic Horus Heresy, it seems like they are eliminating more product then they are adding. What’s their game plan, eventually eliminate the site completely?

IMO it's FW returning to what it was, a side gig for specialist items. It's the place where you should be getting your Titan class units, unique and named units for HH, and most importantly the additional units/models/characters for specialist games like Blood Bowl, LotR, and Necromunda. FW has more generic Space Marine options than GW proper at this stage and it really shouldn't have got to that point.

With their prices and lack of indie support, I don't see how they're still in business.

Because FW is owned by GW and the specialist games are actually very popular sellers. FW can't go out of business unless GW does.

 Gert wrote:
Because FW is owned by GW and the specialist games are actually very popular sellers. FW can't go out of business unless GW does.

I've reached out to both companies and have told me bluntly that they are two completely separate companies, with nothing to do with each other.

The plot thickens...

SamusDrake wrote:
I've reached out to both companies and have told me bluntly that they are two completely separate companies, with nothing to do with each other.

The plot thickens...

FW is owned and operated by GW. The various FW design teams are situated in the same building as the GW design teams. FW models are made in the same factory as GW models. FW specifically produces many of the additional models featured in GW publications for GW game systems such as Necromunda and Blood Bowl.
The plot isn't thick, it is very very thin and it has always been clear that the only thing GW and FW aren't on the same page with is their 40k rules teams.

 Gert wrote:

FW is owned and operated by GW. The various FW design teams are situated in the same building as the GW design teams. FW models are made in the same factory as GW models. FW specifically produces many of the additional models featured in GW publications for GW game systems such as Necromunda and Blood Bowl.
The plot isn't thick, it is very very thin and it has always been clear that the only thing GW and FW aren't on the same page with is their 40k rules teams.

So basically both FW and GW are lying to my face.

But I'm not shooting the messenger and thank you for clearing that up.

SamusDrake wrote:
So basically both FW and GW are lying to my face.

I mean forgeworlds models have 'copyright / manufactured by games workshop' on their boxes, but I guess it's a matter of context - different departments in a company don't necessarily have any dealings with each other at the kind of level your emails would get to.

With plastic Heresy on the way, maybe some resin is going to get made into plastic?

Here's hoping. Death to resin!

Depends on what kit from FW in my experience. The older sets are much worse for cleaning and even after a good scrub I've had paint chip off from bits I've missed. But there has definitely been a change in material for certain kits, the DA Praetor for example, that are much nicer, require less cleaning, and have some sublime details. I've got a lot of FW kits and honestly, the Praetor is just the best of the lot.

SamusDrake wrote:

 Gert wrote:
Because FW is owned by GW and the specialist games are actually very popular sellers. FW can't go out of business unless GW does.

I've reached out to both companies and have told me bluntly that they are two completely separate companies, with nothing to do with each other.

The plot thickens...

the same way Black Library and Citadel are completely separate companies from GW

 kodos wrote:

the same way Black Library and Citadel are completely separate companies from GW

Cool beans.

PenitentJake wrote:
Why is a preference for a medium that converts better a sign of immaturity to you?

I mean look, if you like resin, that's fine- I'm not going to belittle you for that opinion, even though I disagree with it.

The expression used is the sign of immaturity.

Had you left your comment with "Here's hoping." or added a coda of "I prefer to work with HIPS rather than resin.", then you're posting in a reasonable manner.

"Death to resin!", on the other hand? Not so much.

Resin has its place as a material, as does metal, and even HIPS.

After all, I can't imagine you'd be very pleased/impressed if people were signing appropriate posts off with "Death to Crusade!", now, would you?

Death to Plastic!

no, wait...

SamusDrake wrote:

 Gert wrote:

FW is owned and operated by GW. The various FW design teams are situated in the same building as the GW design teams. FW models are made in the same factory as GW models. FW specifically produces many of the additional models featured in GW publications for GW game systems such as Necromunda and Blood Bowl.
The plot isn't thick, it is very very thin and it has always been clear that the only thing GW and FW aren't on the same page with is their 40k rules teams.

So basically both FW and GW are lying to my face.

But I'm not shooting the messenger and thank you for clearing that up.

Well it IS April 1st....

ccs wrote:


Well it IS April 1st....

I see what you did there!

 Gert wrote:

The plot isn't thick, it is very very thin and it has always been clear that the only thing GW and FW aren't on the same page with is their 40k rules teams.

They are now. All 40K FW rules since the original 8th Ed Indexes have been done by the main 40K team and not FW.

FW and GW are the same company, FW is just the branch for specialist game rules and proper Resin models while GW is for 40K/AoS rules, plastic models and crappy Resin models.

@Dystartes:

Fair enough. Will keep it in mind moving forward.

 Sledgehammer wrote:
FW has had problems getting new molds when old ones wear out. Wheather thats a feasibility thing or a business decision to discontinue product I don't know.

Which is crazy because the molds themselves are 3D printed now. It's not like it's some major project to do a new mold. They don't have a room full of elves sitting around carving them by hand. How many molds wear out at one time that they can't keep up with 3D printing new ones?


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SamusDrake wrote:

 Gert wrote:

FW is owned and operated by GW. The various FW design teams are situated in the same building as the GW design teams. FW models are made in the same factory as GW models. FW specifically produces many of the additional models featured in GW publications for GW game systems such as Necromunda and Blood Bowl.
The plot isn't thick, it is very very thin and it has always been clear that the only thing GW and FW aren't on the same page with is their 40k rules teams.

So basically both FW and GW are lying to my face.

But I'm not shooting the messenger and thank you for clearing that up.

Yes. It would be like calling an Acura dealership and they say they have nothing to do with Honda.

Alright cheers guys, I get the picture.