Manoeuvrable

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**p5freak**

Does the second pivot cost movement, or not ?

Manoeuvrable:
Each time this model makes a Normal Move, Advances or Falls Back, first pivot it on the spot up to 90° (this does not contribute to how far the model moves), then move the model straight forwards. It can pivot up to 90° one more time, at any point, during the move.

**Valkyrie**

I can see where this is going to go.

- The majority of viewers will probably say no as the first one didn't cost movement. You'll bark out "citation please" like a trained seal and it'll go back and forth until it's locked like everything else you ask on here.

**DeathReaper**

p5freak wrote:
Does the second pivot cost movement, or not ?

Manoeuvrable:
Each time this model makes a Normal Move, Advances or Falls Back, first pivot it on the spot up to 90° (this does not contribute to how far the model moves), then move the model straight forwards. It can pivot up to 90° one more time, at any point, during the move.

It explicitly says the first pivot does not contribute to how far the model moves.

There is nothing like that is said about the second pivot, so it is not the same as the first. You must take movement into account as normal.

P.S. why would you think the second pivot does not cost movement? Are there any rules that say it does not?

**Slipspace**

The second would cost movement. The basic rules tell us pivoting models costs movement and the rule cited only mentions the first pivot being free.

**KingGarland**

Whenever you move a model, you can pivot it and/or change its position on the battlefield along any path, but no part of the model’s base (or hull) can be moved across the bases (or hulls) of other models, nor can any part of that model (including its base) cross the edge of the battlefield. You can also rotate any movable part of the model (such as turrets and sponsons) when it is moved. The distance a model moves is measured using the part of the model’s base (or hull) that moves furthest along its path (including parts that rotate or pivot).

As the rule says the first is free, the second will cost movement measured from the part of the model that moves furthest. That means that a very large model will cost more thwn a small one.