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I'm curious, do you think Orks more often prefabricate and land their heavy machinery or do you think their meks set up camp and start building? I realize the best answer is 'it depends' but I was wondering what evryone thinks a typical ork landing looks like.

If it's an established Waaagh! they'll bring equipment with them - either dropped in roks or beamed down from hulks

They crash their ships and reassemble them as warmachines or shelters. After that they just spread out and hope for the best.

beast_gts wrote:If it's an established Waaagh! they'll bring equipment with them - either dropped in roks or beamed down from hulks

Teleporting?! That sounds a little bougie for most orks. Except the bad moons.

Gert wrote:They crash their ships and reassemble them as warmachines or shelters. After that they just spread out and hope for the best.

This one sounds fun. I can just imagine the meks and their grots having a little war of first dibs when all the wreckage finally comes down. That would be a fun little killteam game.

 Mr Nobody wrote:
Teleporting?! That sounds a little bougie for most orks. Except the bad moons.

Well, in the Sanctus Reach / The Red Waaagh! fluff it was a Bad Moons Big Mek called Mogrok who was behind it...

Ork landing craft have also been loosely described, if I remember correctly. I would not be surprised if many of these are basically a mek's workshop to start with and act as an immediate base of operations. Landing roks are a massive development of this concept requiring fairly advanced technology for the landing jets, first deployed on Armageddon by Waaaagh! Ghazghkull.

I agree with the idea that an established Waaaagh! brings its own, and a smaller or damaged force will cobble together what it can from what it has available. Orks will always make do.

Landing roks and teleportas appear to be relatively recent additions to the Ork arsenal- the technology required probably only appears in the largest Waaaaghs!, of which the turn of the 42nd millennium is seeing an awful lot of. Teleportas were presumably not seen by the Imperium since the War of the Beast nearly 8000 years earlier.

Two steps.

First is to aim at the target.

Second is to fire at the target.

Orks would take over and repurpose existing stuff on landing on a new planet. “Loot” would be the common term used but if they took over a factory producing ammo, they would use that, to produce ammo. Maybe not the same kind but certainly would use it and use slaves to help out.

Not all ORKS moving around are in a waargh. Waarghs are rare and special things. Some ORKS are just migrating. Moving about looking for a scrap.

Yep all great answers so far.
The old fluff has them enslaving large populations to produce weapons. They also trade, or at least Blood Axes do.

If the orks have already got spaceflight capable ships and are invading a world, they 100% will bring invasion equipment down with them. Depending on the nature of the fleet and how many ground combat situations they've been in and all; will affect what they bring and how much and in what state. Eg a very large Waaargh with many planetary invasions under its belt will likely have favoured machines all the way up to titans which they will bring with them battle to battle.

Others might rely on newer constructions or dropping things like Roks or other supplies and then building what's required on the ground. Basically an orky style of free-form pre-fab/construction supplies.




If the orks have had fewer ground engagements they might well rely more so on building things on the ground with local material and loot.



A key thing to realise is that orks are not stupid, they are orkish. Built within that is a lot of silly daft and violent things; but also a lot of cunning and smarts. Smart orks that act wisely build big Waarghs; they build large forces; they gain allies and victories and more orks flock to their banner.

I guess everything Orky is prefabricated because a good Mek can turn nowt into owt.

It’s a bit of everything.

Roks offer different options to Tellyporting.

Roks not only offer initial impact, but ready made fortifications. Stuff carried inside pre-assembled may not survive impact, but the Meks can soon fix that. They might also have scrap reserves, so the Meks can make stuff to order.

Tellyporting (which if memory serves has been done with Great Gargants?) can get big stuff planetside with reasonable success. It can also deploy hordes of Boyz too.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
It’s a bit of everything.

Roks offer different options to Tellyporting.

Roks not only offer initial impact, but ready made fortifications. Stuff carried inside pre-assembled may not survive impact, but the Meks can soon fix that. They might also have scrap reserves, so the Meks can make stuff to order.

Tellyporting (which if memory serves has been done with Great Gargants?) can get big stuff planetside with reasonable success. It can also deploy hordes of Boyz too.

Roks and tellyportas are rare though, "standard" landers appear to be the default. Roks were a surprise tactic used by Waaaagh! Ghazghkull in the Third War for Armageddon (with tellyportas built in), and tellyportas had not been seen enough by the Imperium to enter tactical knowledge of Orks until Nazdreg used them with Ghaz on Piscina IV in preparation for Armageddon. They were used by The Beast in the 32nd millennium too, unknown if they have occasionally appeared in between, but they wouldn't be surprising if Orks used them a lot.

The Ork Landa even had a model
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Landa

 Lord Damocles wrote:
The Ork Landa even had a model
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Landa

Ah! This is the thing I was thinking of! Thanks for sharing

Fair point on the Landa. For the more traditional Ork

The Beast having Tellyporta tek is suggestive it’s another “level locked” thing with Mekboy DNA.

Just as an isolated but growing Ork community manifests different Oddboyz at different population densities (Runtherdz first, Doks after, then Meks, and the theory Ghaz is Leader Class Oddboy) it does seem possible tek is doled out similarly?

 Lord Damocles wrote:
The Ork Landa even had a model
https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Landa

The Fundabirdz

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Fair point on the Landa. For the more traditional Ork

The Beast having Tellyporta tek is suggestive it’s another “level locked” thing with Mekboy DNA.

Just as an isolated but growing Ork community manifests different Oddboyz at different population densities (Runtherdz first, Doks after, then Meks, and the theory Ghaz is Leader Class Oddboy) it does seem possible tek is doled out similarly?

That is my thoughts also- tellyportas and the thrusters capable of landing a more-or-less intact rok require particularly large Waaaaghs! to generate the tek level.

Hahaha, the suggestion of 'Ork landing procedure' is a self contained joke already

 Mr Nobody wrote:
I'm curious, do you think Orks more often prefabricate and land their heavy machinery or do you think their meks set up camp and start building? I realize the best answer is 'it depends' but I was wondering what evryone thinks a typical ork landing looks like.

Both, I think. If you happen to have some big flying machines or tellyportas, you probably want to use those if only because you have them and this is a chance to show them off. Otherwise, slam it all into the ground, and let the survivors (and new orks) use the scrap to build up from there.

Also, it's not really a typical example (shenanigans were going on), but the overfiend short stories feature a bit where orks had built a subterranean assembly yard where they were putting together tons of vehicles and then tellyporting them (via a powered up wyrd boy iirc) into position for surprise vehicle attacks. It's all a bit more organized than is the norm for orks (again, shenanigans), but some of the bones of all that probably hold true. Meks probably understand that building their shops somewhere less prone to random attacks/bombardment makes it easier to actually finish building things. Wyrd boyz probably are used to to toss a bunch of ladz together in one place. Sufficiently cunning leaders are probably kunnin' enuff to combine both of the above in some way.

The smaller Ork ships can also land on a planet.

"Like all Ork attack ships, Onslaughts are capable of landing on planets as part of an invasion force and can carry a large Ork warband plus their vehicles and artillery."
- BFG big blue book, Onslaught Attack Ship, page 137

Tygre wrote:
The smaller Ork ships can also land on a planet.

"Like all Ork attack ships, Onslaughts are capable of landing on planets as part of an invasion force and can carry a large Ork warband plus their vehicles and artillery."
- BFG big blue book, Onslaught Attack Ship, page 137

I imagine there's a bit of Ork logic at work here. 'All space ships can land. But only once.'

But that leads to an interesting scenario. Would it be easier for orks to 'land' their ramshackle ships and simply cannibalize them into new machines?

I think Ork Waaaaghs! typically begin by constructing ships planetside and them taking off from there. It is reasonable to assume Ork craft can often take off again after a planetary assault. Especially after a mek bolts on a few extra thrusters...

The ship that landed is not necessarily going to be the ship that takes off again.