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Balance Data Sheet wrote:
‘At the end of your Command phase, if one or
more Adeptus Astartes Troops units from your
army are within range of an objective marker you
control, that objective marker remains under your
control, even if there are no models within range of
it, unless your opponent controls it at the end of any
subsequent phase.

You go first, on Turn 3, you control Objective A with 5 Intercessors standing on it. During Turn 3, you move the Intercessors to Objective C. You now control Objective A and C. Your opponent has nothing anywhere near that area, so they can't get models on either objective in their half of Turn 3.
Their turn ends. You control A and C.
Turn 4 begins:
You may or may not control A and C - but probably do because there's little point to the rule otherwise (see below for a very niche example)
Your opponent STILL can't get anything anywhere near there. You may or may not control A for the purposes of "If you control more than..." edge cases.
Turn 5 Begins -
Do you still control Objective A with no models nearby? That's the way it's written, but I'm not sure that's the way its meant.

So the way I read it, At the end of your command phase, you run a check on all objectives. If you control it, it gets a hidden "flag" for lack of a better term, and that flag is your control. That flag remains across multiple turns until it is removed by even one enemy (scoring) model - well technically they take control - but I'm talking about if it's empty and remains empty thus even 1 scoring model would take it.

Once you control an objective with a troops unit it remains under your control, even if you move away from it. An enemy model has to move in range of it, to take it away from you.

Some missions in Nephilim has had sticky objectives. It is not new. Your opponent has to take them away from you again or they are your for ever and ever. It also works a lot like raising the banners secondary objective.

"At the end of your Command phase, if one or
more Adeptus Astartes Troops units from your
army are within range of an objective marker you control, that objective marker remains under your control, even if there are no models within range of it, unless your opponent controls it at the end of any subsequent phase."

All objectives are checked each command phase the objective sticks until your next command phase when it is checked again so assuming no interference by your opponent

Your intercessors advance from objective A - B you now hold A through sticky and B through having a model on it (but its not sticky as it didn't have a Troop on it at the command phase). Net you hold A and B. But you can be shot off B and you hold A with no models

At your next command phase all objectives are checked you now hold B Sticky you however do not have a Troop on A so do not hold A through subsequent phases however nothing stops you advancing your intercessors back and holding Both in an inverse of turn 1

In my interpretation the hidden flags are rechecked each command phase as to the point it let's you hold two objectives with one unit and prevents you losing it by being shot off which is pretty nice also both the command phase check and the scoring primary happen at the end of the command phase (so through sequencing you can score primary then recheck for stickyness) it also makes a difference for some secondaries like corrupted grounds that check at EoT


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 Niiai wrote:
Some missions in Nephilim has had sticky objectives. It is not new. Your opponent has to take them away from you again or they are your for ever and ever. It also works a lot like raising the banners secondary objective.

Exactly sticky objectives are not new the old ones all rechecked every command phase and only applied if you still had possession in your command phase

If clause -If end of your Command phase - condition - adeptus astartes Troop unit within range and you have control - resolve rest of rule

In turn 2 if Troop unit is not in range of objective then you have not met the condition so the rest of the rule no longer applies

U02dah4 wrote:
"At the end of your Command phase, if one or
more Adeptus Astartes Troops units from your
army are within range of an objective marker you control, that objective marker remains under your control, even if there are no models within range of it, unless your opponent controls it at the end of any subsequent phase."

All objectives are checked each command phase the objective sticks until your next command phase when it is checked again so assuming no interference by your opponent

Your intercessors advance from objective A - B you now hold A through sticky and B through having a model on it (but its not sticky as it didn't have a Troop on it at the command phase). Net you hold A and B. But you can be shot off B and you hold A with no models

At your next command phase all objectives are checked you now hold B Sticky you however do not have a Troop on A so do not hold A through subsequent phases however nothing stops you advancing your intercessors back and holding Both in an inverse of turn 1

In my interpretation the hidden flags are rechecked each command phase as to the point it let's you hold two objectives with one unit and prevents you losing it by being shot off which is pretty nice also both the command phase check and the scoring primary happen at the end of the command phase (so through sequencing you can score primary then recheck for stickyness) it also makes a difference for some secondaries like corrupted grounds that check at EoT

This is not how it works.

For once I agree with p5. U02 has it completely wrong

A unit holding object A that meets the criteria continues to count that objectve as controlled even if they move away. They can be there command phase turn 1, move away and if nothing happens it's still controlled at the end of battle round 5.

There's no time limit on the "remains under your control" part of the rule, just a condition that must be met by the enemy to take it off you. If you control an objective with a Troop unit at the end of any of your Command phases you will still hold it until an enemy actively takes it off you.

So what's the point in the Command phase check why not just have if space marine troops control an objective they retain control until the opponent controls the objective

I check the objective in my command phase it has no Troop the rest of the rule no longer applies to that objective

If you ever played DOW, think of it as an objective you already claimed. Then the objective is under your control until your opponent takes it from you.

Another concept to the sticky objectives which comes up sometimes:

You start your command phase with 5 Tactical Marines on objective A. You stay on the objective.

In your opponent's turn they move their 5 Tactical marines on objective A too. They now contest the objective, 5 bodies to 5 bodies.

But, as your opponent never controls the objective at the end of any phase, you retain control of it and score.

For practical play purposes I would suggest tokens that you place on the objectives as you sticky them in your command phase. That way you remember they are sticky until your opponent takes control and you remove your token.

U02 - the command phase check is to limit the ability. Otherwise you could walk onto an objective and "sticky" control it.

Exactly, it give your opponent a chance to blat you off an Objective in their turn before it becomes stickied in your next Command Phase, for example.

Fair enough

Just a heads up for anyone who may have glossed over a rather important part of that new rule - only SM "TROOPS" get it. I already had visions of Jump Packs and Eliminators Move Shoot Scooting onto new objectives. But its only Troops.

 skchsan wrote:
If you ever played DOW, think of it as an objective you already claimed. Then the objective is under your control until your opponent takes it from you.

Have the sudden urge to model and paint chapter banners on top of vox units to place on top of objectives.

 skchsan wrote:
If you ever played DOW, think of it as an objective you already claimed. Then the objective is under your control until your opponent takes it from you.

It's the intro-cinematic to DoW even: Tacticals move forward, the lone Sgt. survives the Ork shootingphase, then he raise the banner in his commandphase and the objective gets "stickied"(?) for the Blood Ravens.