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So far all daemon primarchs have had different wing types: Angron has bat-like, Mortarion has insect-like, and Magnus has bird-like wings. The only flying creature left that hasn't been done is Pterosaur wings. Which I think might go well with some of Slaanesh's minor daemons having a hand to stab with.

And yes, I'm that big of a nerd.

Do we not get a detailed description of his wings in one of the books? I know he appears briefly in one of the Fabius Bile novels.

I guess I've just been picturing him as a Morathi conversion this whole time.

This is the art from the cover of one of the Heresy Anthologies:

And this is one done by Wayne England for one of the Visions books:

So anything between angel wings and your traditional sort of generic Daemon wings.

I could see him changing up the details of his appearance frequently. Sticking with the same old appearance indefinitely seems a bit contrary to Slaanesh's whole "wide spectrum of experiences" theme.

And I don't think there was anything overly interesting about the style used in his one previous model incarnation.

It'll need to be at least recognisable as Fulgrim rather than just some fancy Keeper or Prince. It will definitely be snakelike and have wings but other than that I'd say the sculptors are pretty free.

Here's a picture of a Slaanesh daemon. As I said, they have some hands that are just a talon.



Look at the wings of the pterosaur. From the shoulder to the pinky finger, it looks like that of a Slaaneshi daemon's talon, except with no membrane.

Point of order: are pterosaur wings meaningfully different from bird wings?

I mean, given the feathers?

Some ideas (and anyone reading them may quickly realise why I don't work in a creative/arts field).

1. Two part model like Morathi but they are both the same size. Angel and Devil versions of Fulgrim, so soft white wings and hard black wings, which s/he switches between in game.

2. In general, it might be nice for a single model to go heavily on the beauty aspect with just sublte hints of the hidden daemon/horror. So, angelic white wings with a beautiful Fulgrim, but just tiny daemonic details like cat shaped eyes, a claw hidden behind a robe, etc.

Only on Pterosaur Ptuesday - gal's gotta mix it up.

Honestly though, I'm thinking butterfly.

Flying squirrel, or sugar glider. That's the way forward!

 AnomanderRake wrote:
Point of order: are pterosaur wings meaningfully different from bird wings?

I mean, given the feathers?

Most definitely. Ever eaten a chicken wing? The feathers increase the amount of total surface area to generate lift and do so efficiently. Losing a feather here and there isn't a big deal, but pterosaurs are similar to bats because they have a huge skin membrane to generate lift. A pterosaur wing is more like a bat except a bat uses four fingers for the membrane to attach to, whereas the pterosaur skin is only attached to the elongated pinky. The membranes on pterosaurs and bats can be easily torn/cut, really affecting their ability to fly.

Fun Fact: The largest pterosaur had a wing span of 12 m and was as tall as a giraffe.

 Flinty wrote:
Flying squirrel, or sugar glider. That's the way forward!

Fulgrim now has four arms, he'd have to take off some armor, but the arms could be attached to each other with a flap of skin and you have yourself the makings of a gliding primarch.

I'm expecting feathered/angel wings - they've been pretty consistent with that in recent art.

I wouldn't be surprised to see draconic wings.

I think that's a good possibility reptile like wings becuse he will have a snake body.

Boosykes wrote:
I think that's a good possibility reptile like wings becuse he will have a snake body.

Beyond that, hybrid animal/dinosaur/etc wings are probably reserved for the Nids.

Edit to add: Also I suspect Fulgrim will not be a snake man: It might be a little too Serpent-In-The-Garden for Joey's mom, as well as too much of a deviation from the 30K model.

Fulgrim is a snake-man though? That's what his Daemonic form is. It's not like Magnus or Mortarion where their current models are essentially just modern stylised versions of their Epic models that better fit the faction aesthetic they are a part of. Taking away Fulgrim's snakeness just makes him not Daemon Fulgrim.

Boosykes wrote:
I think that's a good possibility reptile like wings becuse he will have a snake body.

The closest thing to a flying reptile are the Pterosaurs, they are not dinosaurs.

Dragon and wyvern wings are pretty much just bat wings, especially the wyvern.

 Gert wrote:
Fulgrim is a snake-man though? That's what his Daemonic form is. It's not like Magnus or Mortarion where their current models are essentially just modern stylised versions of their Epic models that better fit the faction aesthetic they are a part of. Taking away Fulgrim's snakeness just makes him not Daemon Fulgrim.

Is Fulgrim Snake-Man, or is the Greater Daemon in the Sword of Laer a Snake-Man possessing Fulgrim? After booting out the Daemon did he slowly revert to his anthropomorphic shape? I'd also posit they're not upscaled Epic models, they're reworked 30K models.

I think it could go either way - Snake-Man or 30 Fulgrim with some Keeper of Secrets homage.

I'm going to go with Snake Fulgrim. He can't just be a "normal" daemon primarch, all 3 primarch that have picked a Chaos god got major juiced. Kind of more interested in what Perturabo and the rest of the undivided look like.

NorthernXY wrote:
I'm going to go with Snake Fulgrim. He can't just be a "normal" daemon primarch, all 3 primarch that have picked a Chaos god got major juiced. Kind of more interested in what Perturabo and the rest of the undivided look like.

But they also stayed fairly Anthropomorphic Angels - 2 arms, 2 legs, usually 2 eyes... and 2 wings. He's probably got a tail and no legs, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it. Even The Lord of Change primarch only "changed" by losing two fingers and getting dragonic goat feet. The goat horns on his head and his nipples may or may not be his or they might be armor prosthetics. Heck even the Wings have some sort of metallic armature that may or may not mean they're synthetic. Oh wait, he only lost one finger. the other hand still has 4+1. Truth be told with that mane of hair, he looks like a costume for a 70's rock band.

Look at HH Morty, and Daemon Morty. You can see the one in the other but they aren't really interchangable. The same can be done with Magnus, The Lion, and Bobby G. The only one that seriously deviated beyond the Not-Interchangable so people who play-both-have-to-buy-2 so far was Angron - aside from a little post-hoc "foreshadowing" on the armor iconography, and the face/hair-butchers-nails-snake-head-tentacles there's very little crossover there. The Loyalists changed even less. Bobby G has a stylized sword, and a big honkin power fist. 40K or 30K?

Yeah it's probably snake man, but I still have a suspicion that its going to be his 30K model with Quetzalcoatl wings.