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Trolled... er... Troggothed hard with those Rumour engine pics.

 infinite_array wrote:
The Primaris assault marines are just another example of how poorly the primaris marines were introduced. GW could have just primarisized all of the standard space marine units, got a bunch of cool models, and retired the old stuff.

Edit: And now the command squad! Same thing. And Terminators, and Veterans.

Battle-toy tacti-cool primaris were a bad idea.

Edit edit: AND SCOUTS! Are GW just going to retcon primaris out entirely?

Retcon would be preferable, especially since I don't like the intercessor helmets (like a smushed nose mk IV). The vader inspired helmets look way better to me, and the old tactical marines box had subtle variations in the helmets too. And the lore....yuck.

 mattl wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:
Yeah, countdown was off by about 5 minutes.

It was off by 30 mins for me. No idea.

The Countdown is for the pre-show NOT the show start.

Brute Ragez were first teased in Underworlds, I guess

Of the new 40k models, I most want the new Sternguard and JP Intercessors. And I really need that Terminator Chaplain as I don't have one currently. Was hoping for new Vanguard Veterans but I'm okay without them. I've already got lots of Scouts so I'll probably give the new ones a miss, at least at first (nobody should have a problem with me using the old ones right? Right?).

Is that Mk3 unhelmeted head identical to the Mk6 one? Same with the nuncio vox...

Did they recycle the upgrade sprue and just include it in the set?

Looking forward to seeing the jet pack primaris intercessors. Intercessors for me have been my unabashed favorites of the Primaris line in their various forms and all the rest have either fallen flat on their faces for me (like the gravis) or been meh (like the tacticool commandos).

These aos minis are pretty cool, bar the gorgers "leader" who's posed like a 80s mini

SQUID

and scary slaanesh

and some cool blood bowl vampires that give Elvira a run for her money

Yessssss Daemon Fulgrim is perfect.

And yes we know it’s resin, the spear is visibly bent to hell

Well that was a bit of a bait and switch. They released Daemon Fulgrim, but not for 40k. Just for HH. Big sad, and I don't even play CSM, much less EC specifically.

Those backpack vents on Fulgrims back are horrific

MY BEAUTIFUL PRIMARCH I DID NOT EXPECT HIM
(spoilered for the size of the images)

GW has to stop doing that, really dick move to bust out that mini and then be like "haha, its a resin piece for Horus Heresy" when they know theres a lot of people looking forward to the 40k version of him.

Calling it now, in 3 years their going to release the plastic version, its going to be a total dog by comparison, and its going to result in a bunch of "We have Fulgrim at home" memes.

God the detail in the sculpt is incredible.

Absolutely criminal it’s being produced by such a gak company and will be $200+ for a shoddy mess of miscast and warped to hell pieces.

chaos0xomega wrote:
GW has to stop doing that, really dick move to bust out that mini and then be like "haha, its a resin piece for Horus Heresy" when they know theres a lot of people looking forward to the 40k version of him.

Calling it now, in 3 years their going to release the plastic version, its going to be a total dog by comparison, and its going to result in a bunch of "We have Fulgrim at home" memes.

If only there had been a roadmap for Heresy releases with "primarch" listed in the resin section, we could have seen this coming!

Plastic Daemon primarch fulgrim isn't going to happen until Emperors Children get a Codex. Possibly at the end of this edition, as a massive EV and Slaanesh release at the same time as Eldar get nerfed into oblivion.

That’s a whole lot of “meh” in that marine reveal.

 bullyboy wrote:
That’s a whole lot of “meh” in that marine reveal.

They look like when a classic game gets a HD remaster. Solid release, nothing really unexpected, but well done

The space marine stuff for both systems is surprisingly good. Curious about some of the options (like helmets) for the various characters.
For 40k, they really do feel like GW is just shrugging and merging the primaris/pre-primaris product lines without much pretense. Not unexpected after the terminators and sternguard, but the totally-not-a-Command Squad really rings the bell.

Though I see the chaplain has a helmet on the summary page.
Scouts are comparatively decent, but still don't like unhelmeted heads, and the style of scout head just doesn't work for me.

Jump troops need their tactical rocks trimmed down _a lot_ some look like they're just falling over.

Disappointing that the assault terminators are going to linger on until another kit happens. Dark Angels release, I expect.

Apparently captains are the new lieutenants.

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Gorgers are a surprise (to me). An improvement from the old version... mostly. The criss-cross head straps don't look any better than it did on the random character a while back, and still don't make any sense.

Some nice RPG sculpts in the human hunters/bandits.

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Ironjaws are fine, I guess. I don't quite get the appeal of the big over-armored orks, but fine.

The new troll king is a fething mess of a sculpt. No idea what happened here, or why the face is just a complete fail state, and so much stuff is jumbled messes of bits or wacky in proportions.

The Slaanesh underworlds band looks fantastic for Slaaneshi Heralds. Really stand out as something chaotic and weird.

Totally Not the Fay Enchantress looks good.

Captains are the old lieutenants actually. It got to the point were GW was selling a 4 pack of Captains for Apocalypse in the form of Masters of the Chapter

- Not too exited by the Marines. Glad the winners were the tyranids. Gotta say I did enjoy the scouts quite a lot though, as well as getting exactly what I expected from the multipart termies.
- Troll King is weird, but I LOVED how hard Ironjawz (with a Z) won this time. I was tempted by buying the Start Collecting Kit, but those new 'Ardboys are just superior in every way.
- Glad they are making a new "starter" set for HH, but I still can't get over the "Dorito" part.
- Blown away by the new Gorgers, surprise MVPs of the show, I thought Ogrekin wouldn't get something actually cool never.
- Regular W from Blood Bowl. Thralls are used as food and you can see that from the models.
- Literal Squid Game in Underworld . NA Slaanesh looks fantastic.
- Horse lovers are boring, gimme TK.
- Jebaited so hard by Fulgrim until they showed the HH logo.

Really like the Assault Intercessors and the Iron Jaws.

Brettonian was really well sculpted as was Fulgrim.

Finally after almost 2 whole decades GW give the community good Gorger models... and plastic no less.

Now hopefully we don't have to wait the same length of time before we get Yhettis.

I think the squid wins it for me...

The AOS stuff looks good, marines are marines.. interesting the scouts are there as it counters Valraks prediction of a scorpion vs scout killteam starter set. I was hoping his Foilrak prediction of a 40k quest game was accurate but alas not..
The Bret Damsel is a lovely sculpt.. not a fan of resin but I'd be tempted to make an exception.

Voss wrote:
Ironjaws are fine, I guess. I don't quite get the appeal of the big over-armored orks, but fine.

That's like saying 'I don't get the appeal of Orks with big guns'.

I really like the Ironjawz - easily the best of these releases (apart from the Mk III Marines). The new WH40k Marines are nice (if predictable), but the helmetless heads are really horrible.

I'm particularly impressed by the new gorgers. The new marines are fairly good but nothing fancy. I hope we can get the jump packs just as a separate upgrade sprue.

 Olthannon wrote:
I'm particularly impressed by the new gorgers. The new marines are fairly good but nothing fancy. I hope we can get the jump packs just as a separate upgrade sprue.

Sure. Will cost 49e/5. Jump intercessors 50e/5

I liked the new Indomi Chaplain and the new MKIII resculpts look glorious. Everything else was more or less whelming.. except for that Slaaneshi Primarch, another work of art from FW.

Holding on to my resin Deredeos for now, I dont like the subtle differences of the plastic version enough to flip them, will probably build em half resin/half plastic (just want more posability for the legs)

No Infernus kit?

Chaplain is cool. Command squad is cool (but I guess that means no free agent Champions/Ancients anymore). Sternguard are nice. Bye bye Sniper Scouts.

No full Ballistus kit is another missed opportunity. Just like not doing a proper Outrider kit or making a new Bike Captain.

Termies are fine. I presume Assault Terminators are waiting for the Blood Angel book.

Sill: No separate Infernus release? Baffling.

Guess gw didn't feel it needs multipose kit/wargear options