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Interesting premise for ep4, but not so interesting for its runtime. And then just stopped without really answering a single question. Also the ending breaks established rules of time travel and paradoxes. I’m finding I like this Doctor and Companion, but most of the stories they’re being put into are mid.
OK, so kind of going for the feel of the first Weeping Angels episode, without just going for Weeping Angels. And some royalties for one Timmy Mallet! Also a slight feel of Day of the Triffids. And a dash of Knightmare and all.
Oh wow. And a pretty brutal murder! A surprisingly dark episode overall.
Doctor is in fine form.
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The flip could’ve gone horribly wrong, but I think they pulled it off nicely.
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Though as an increasingly curmudgeonly grump? The idea of social media devices deciding their users need to get it has a certain appeal. Goodbye, “Influencers”. Goodbye, Tik-Tok Numpties.
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They absolutely fooled me with Ricky September, was totally expecting him to be the main villain, but nope, not only was he a good guy, he was probably the only good guy.
They absolutely fooled me with Ricky September, was totally expecting him to be the main villain, but nope, not only was he a good guy, he was probably the only good guy.
Hadn’t even considered it might be him. My prediction was
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that the humans were a herd being kept by the slugs specifically as a food source and they dots came from them to keep everyone calm and peaceful.
They absolutely fooled me with Ricky September, was totally expecting him to be the main villain, but nope, not only was he a good guy, he was probably the only good guy.
Hadn’t even considered it might be him. My prediction was
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that the humans were a herd being kept by the slugs specifically as a food source and they dots came from them to keep everyone calm and peaceful.
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I was suspicious of how competent and helpful he was.
Definitely a surprisingly well written episode. Because I’m not gonna lie, the trailer made it look crap.
Yet, here we are. Having enjoyed probably one of the finer Dr Who stories in recent years, and which in time may be seen as a genuine classic.
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Also shame on me for missing the racial allegory here. The Doctor is the only non-white cast member in this episode. And he’s treated pretty dismissively by those he’s trying to save. It is subtle, but it is there. Which again is arguably to the script’s favour.
Could’ve been darker though. Consider if the slug things were sent in by the parents, a way to quietly get rid of their most vacuous children.
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Definitely a surprisingly well written episode. Because I’m not gonna lie, the trailer made it look crap.
Yet, here we are. Having enjoyed probably one of the finer Dr Who stories in recent years, and which in time may be seen as a genuine classic.
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Also shame on me for missing the racial allegory here. The Doctor is the only non-white cast member in this episode. And he’s treated pretty dismissively by those he’s trying to save. It is subtle, but it is there. Which again is arguably to the script’s favour.
Could’ve been darker though. Consider if the slug things were sent in by the parents, a way to quietly get rid of their most vacuous children.
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That might still be the case. A more gruesome 'Golgafrinchan B Ark' scenario. I first thought the bigotry might be colour, but they didn't say to Ruby "you're OK" so it might they are strangers/off-worlders/not from Homeworld. It might be deliberately left to the interpretation of the viewer.
Seeing their home world devoured kind of settled “wait, are the parents just getting rid” to bed in my mind.
But I guess it’s still possible “oh bugger, they’ve broken out!” could explain what happened there.
My fear is that someone might’ve kicked off watching Space Babies, called it a day there (and understandably so!). Because they’d be missing out on solid fare for the most part.
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Definitely a surprisingly well written episode. Because I’m not gonna lie, the trailer made it look crap.
Yet, here we are. Having enjoyed probably one of the finer Dr Who stories in recent years, and which in time may be seen as a genuine classic.
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Also shame on me for missing the racial allegory here. The Doctor is the only non-white cast member in this episode. And he’s treated pretty dismissively by those he’s trying to save. It is subtle, but it is there. Which again is arguably to the script’s favour.
Could’ve been darker though. Consider if the slug things were sent in by the parents, a way to quietly get rid of their most vacuous children.
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That might still be the case. A more gruesome 'Golgafrinchan B Ark' scenario. I first thought the bigotry might be colour, but they didn't say to Ruby "you're OK" so it might they are strangers/off-worlders/not from Homeworld. It might be deliberately left to the interpretation of the viewer.
About the ending:
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Add in there 'not-rich, older (for The Doctor) and non-believers', and that's a lot to choose from.
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Pretty average RTD fare. Acting is pretty decent, even the monster make up is uneven. And what feels like a pretty blatant “here, have a new Jack”.
Also, not sure that “I can’t allow you to kill them” and “I’ll send them into an empty dimension” are morally all that different. Sure, you’re not actively taking their lives, but you are consigning them to no food or water…
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Yeah, Rogue was a little too Jack for me, I kept waiting for a reveal that he Was Jack, and I had a similar thought about the empty dimension. It didn’t get better when he made the comment about wanting them to just suffer for six hundred years. Otherwise I thought the premise was pretty good.
Shape-shifting aliens cosplaying as humans, was an interesting enough concept, as was the Doctor qualifying as a 'shifter himself due to regeneration). But the villains became too pantomine-ish. Maybe Indira Varma wanted something cartoony to be in Doctor Who after Susie).
The latest one was okay, had some interesting ideas, but they were trying too hard to make Rouge a tone-downed Jack.
Plus I'm always going to be a little weirded out by the Doctor being openly attracted to someone (My only real complaint about Fifteen so far is that he's just too dang flirty!).
The music being played in the ballroom was odd. I am sure they were playing 'Bad Guy' the first time the Doctor was on the balcony
[Yep, IMDB thinks so: When the Doctor is talking with Rogue on the balcony about brooding, the orchestra is playing an arrangement of "Bad Guy" by Billie Eilish.].
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Skinnereal wrote: The music being played in the ballroom was odd. I am sure they were playing 'Bad Guy' the first time the Doctor was on the balcony
[Yep, IMDB thinks so: When the Doctor is talking with Rogue on the balcony about brooding, the orchestra is playing an arrangement of "Bad Guy" by Billie Eilish.].
When Ruby and Emily were'fighting' in the library it was a string ensemble version of 'Poker Face'.
OK, outside of Space Babies, I think this has been overall one of the better runs of Dr Who. And not just the new stuff.
I do wonder if perhaps Space Babies was someone forcing RTD to get all the RTD (not a rude acronym, for clarity) out of his system and instead focus on decent story telling, which he absolutely can do.
And this is a nice ramping up. So much so I don’t lightly say I was riveted. Good number of plot threads going on and not a little mystery.
What a cliff hanger!
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I would have to agree, even the episodes I've had an issue or two with were still pretty good overall (Apart from Space Babies, such a bafflingly bad way to start the new season).
RTD has really being digging through old Who, first The Rani gets name dropped (Although I'm a little sad that it appears that that's as far as that goes) and now the Mara gets a mention.
And Kate seems to be getting really angry with the Doctor getting her people killed. Hopefully this isn't a way to write UNIT out of the show again (Although it is better than the last time, when it was disbanded because of budget cuts).
I do like that Anita Dobson’s character remains a mystery, but I agree it was a bit of a damp squib. Lots of jumping around and it never quite came together.
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Having been out of the country for a few weeks I finally got to watch the last two episodes. Of course, anyone with the slightest online presence will have seen all the memes (there were 10 Sutekhs orbiting Galifrey in Day of the Doctor, a tiny Sutekh in Flatline, and did Fifteen create a second Sutekh with his magic hammer?).
Any, even knowing Sutekh was coming didn't detract from the impact of the cliffhanger. It was built up so well (I thought) that I didn't miss out too much from knowing who was coming.
The finale? Acceptable. a solid B-. Ruby's mum being just an ordinary person was sweet, and bringing death to Death = life? Well, I guess I can roll with that.
It's a shame that Sutekh was destroyed, but then Gabriel Wolf's 91, and Sutekh without him would be... well, it just wouldn't be right!
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