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I'll try it out for sure.

But right now I don't see the point in sticking with it. Its removed enough from the old game to not make it worth while, and anything new it brings ie: the narrative/campaigns will be backwards compatible but without anyone having to be excluded due to the weird limitations they've put decided to put on the game.

I'm 100% in.

My FLGS is definitely going to support it.

I have an additional 5 armies or so that I'm interested in completing, which will give me enough armies that I can play at home - solo or with my oldest kid.

In addition an ex-colleague who lives a few blocks away is in and he paints at a rate of about one unit a week (bastard!). He's said he wants me to teach him to play - and I have enough terrain etc to play home games.

So yeah, I'm in.

I don't like to say "no" because there's always a chance and WHFB was my main game back in the day, but at this point I have no plans. Friends don't seem interested, I don't want to rebase my models, and old me is less patient than young me for excessively complicated GW rules.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
That being said, whilst Brets and Bones haven’t solidly grabbed my attention, let’s be honest. Few of us are anymore than a single distraction away from rejigging plans

Wise words, Doc, wise words...

For myself I fully intend to get playing. I'm fortunate, in that loads of players in my Blood Bowl league are also prepared to spend silly money to recreate the old ranked battles of the past, so I should be able to get a good bunch of games in.

Really, the question for me will be - can I restrain myself, and stick to just one army?

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I don't like to say "no" because there's always a chance and WHFB was my main game back in the day, but at this point I have no plans. Friends don't seem interested, I don't want to rebase my models, and old me is less patient than young me for excessively complicated GW rules.

Yeah the size and absolute trash editing of the rulebook is putting me off the most right now. Model wise I don't really have a barrier to entry, I have whole fantasy armies in the pile of shame and I can print spaced trays easily.

I do have two friends intent on giving it a shot because nostalgia.

I will give it a shot.

I wanted Brettonians since 1996. When i finally managed to collect a small army GW cancelled Fantasy. By Jove I will play my Brettonians!

Not rebasing and can't be arsed with making special movement trays atm for it. If it really took off and was really good, I might put some together.

That said I might well pick up some of the older models that would fit better with my armies than the newer stuff. If they re-released old Chaos Warriors that rank up properly, and some of the Orc and Goblin stuff I still want, I would pick it up and use it in my armies as they exist.

Also looking at the Brets made me look at alternatives and I probably will pick up a Forgotten Worlds Albion's Knights box and some Conquest Infantry and Archers to make a Bretonian force. I'll have Undead, Orcs and Goblins, Dwarves, Chaos and Brets then, which is more than enough to do some fun games with.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I don't like to say "no" because there's always a chance and WHFB was my main game back in the day, but at this point I have no plans. Friends don't seem interested, I don't want to rebase my models, and old me is less patient than young me for excessively complicated GW rules.

Yeah the size and absolute trash editing of the rulebook is putting me off the most right now. Model wise I don't really have a barrier to entry, I have whole fantasy armies in the pile of shame and I can print spaced trays easily.

I do have two friends intent on giving it a shot because nostalgia.

It seems like a lot of people just don't care if rules are written horribly, but for my group several games have been dropped before they got off the ground because no one could be arsed learning the rules, me and my mates must just be lazy

The new kill team was another one, bought the DKOK vs Kommandos starter and just couldn't wade through the horribly written rules to discover if the game was worth getting the others to pick up their own kill teams.

Aeronautica is also written horribly but luckily the game is so simple that even with badly written rules it's not too hard to pick up, so that's one game that has recently caught hold with us.

voted "undecided", I have multiple Warhammer armies however the rules for this are too expensive to be a "yeah whatever" purchase on the off chance so want to see if the game has legs locally before spending money.

not even that fussed if the rules are excellent or rubbish, its purely down to "will I be able to play this locally?"

I will never slog through playing bad rules. Ever. I won't touch modern 40K because of it, and TOW seems to be cut of the same cloth. I'd rather be stuck with 5 or fewer opponents in a game I enjoy than to have 50 opponents in a game that takes effort to suffer through.

8th Edition basically killed the Fantasy scene where I live, or at the very least really cut down the player base. Old World will most likely bring it back so I will definitely play. I wont be rebasing though as I put a lot of work into the old armies and they are half an art project.

Plus 6th edition is still my favorite edition and I want to easily be able to still play it.

Time will tell. Sooner or later. Time will tell...

l check what city's other players do. Until then, l play 5th edition in my small group.

Very probably? Not many people in my small town left with an interest but I have a pile of Tomb Kings and a smattering of other armies so I'd love an excuse to get 'em ranked up again.

I'll be playing. As I was excited for the The Old World to be back. But lately reading through Facebook Group posts about re-basing has me hesitant on what kind of people I'm up against. I'm not going to re-base my army, I'm playing my army as is. I don't need to jump through hoops. I just want to play WHFB. I'm still going to play 6th edition no matter is ToW tanks or does really well.

Then you're not really playing TOW, are you? 6th edition is a different game.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Then you're not really playing TOW, are you? 6th edition is a different game.

Base sizes don't really matter. An extra 5mm isn't going to change how the game is played. Oh definitely 6th edition is and I enjoy playing it. Why give up something you still enjoy playing?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/04/14/old-world-development-diary-on-bases-and-the-barons-of-bretonnia/

I'll leave this article up as a reminder that re-basing isn't really necessary.

Here's a quote from the article.

Do I need to rebase my old army?
If you’re playing at home there’ll be no requirement to rebase anything. For casual play, the size of base will make a minimal difference to gameplay. The rules will be written assuming the new larger base sizes – so if you’re planning to play competitively, you might want to upgrade to larger bases,

Voted undecided, but leaning no.

Will wait to see what they do with the other armies for TOW.

Mainly excited for modelling and painting new mini’s(Foot Knights!) and getting my hands on some formerly OOP kits(Tomb Kings stuff).

I'm rebasing my army, and looking forward to joining or helping create a local community for organized play.

From what I've seen so far, I am strongly encouraged by the core rules, magic lores, magic items - the things I've seen look well thought through and an improvement over past editions.

Only thing I'm apprehensive of is SPAM potential of some lists (Gyros, WE archers, probably ethereals & similar stuff), but this is much easier to work around than bad core rules, and only impacts tournament play.

I will be playing for sure.

My community already has a facebook group up and there are already 35 people, which is a good early signal that the game will find support in the community.

Grensche wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
Then you're not really playing TOW, are you? 6th edition is a different game.

Base sizes don't really matter. An extra 5mm isn't going to change how the game is played. Oh definitely 6th edition is and I enjoy playing it. Why give up something you still enjoy playing?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/04/14/old-world-development-diary-on-bases-and-the-barons-of-bretonnia/

I'll leave this article up as a reminder that re-basing isn't really necessary.

Here's a quote from the article.

Do I need to rebase my old army?
If you’re playing at home there’ll be no requirement to rebase anything. For casual play, the size of base will make a minimal difference to gameplay. The rules will be written assuming the new larger base sizes – so if you’re planning to play competitively, you might want to upgrade to larger bases,

So to clarify you will be playing tow AND 6e and don't hence rebase because you figure not rebasing matters less on TOW front than disruption rebase would cause for 6e?

IF there is a possibility to field an estalian type army or mercs of tilea and estalia, i think i will do join and cram out my old WOC army out.

I am curious what they think deserves to be in an army box there.

I'll be collecting a Tomb Kings army, as I always wanted one as a kid but couldn't afford it. Turns out an Ork army and Imperial Guard army is very expensive to own as someone relying on pocket money and Christmas.

By the time I could afford another army on top of everything in life, they were gone and I refused to pay eBay prices.

If my mates decide to get armies then I'll play against them, but otherwise my skellies will be display only. Which I'm not mad about.

tneva82 wrote:

Grensche wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
Then you're not really playing TOW, are you? 6th edition is a different game.

Base sizes don't really matter. An extra 5mm isn't going to change how the game is played. Oh definitely 6th edition is and I enjoy playing it. Why give up something you still enjoy playing?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/04/14/old-world-development-diary-on-bases-and-the-barons-of-bretonnia/

I'll leave this article up as a reminder that re-basing isn't really necessary.

Here's a quote from the article.

Do I need to rebase my old army?
If you’re playing at home there’ll be no requirement to rebase anything. For casual play, the size of base will make a minimal difference to gameplay. The rules will be written assuming the new larger base sizes – so if you’re planning to play competitively, you might want to upgrade to larger bases,

So to clarify you will be playing tow AND 6e and don't hence rebase because you figure not rebasing matters less on TOW front than disruption rebase would cause for 6e?

Simply put, no. I will not be rebasing so I can play two games.

Definitely not.
GW is leaning into what put me off getting into WHFB back in the day as well as what put me off GW.
I have no interest in fussing about with rules that maybe sound cool but have little effect other than bogging the game down and I'm not paying that much for that many books.

Not when better games are available.
The only thing that ToW offers that I can't get from another game for less money and fuss is Warhammer nostalgia and brand.

Just Tony wrote:I will never slog through playing bad rules. Ever. I won't touch modern 40K because of it, and TOW seems to be cut of the same cloth. I'd rather be stuck with 5 or fewer opponents in a game I enjoy than to have 50 opponents in a game that takes effort to suffer through.

 DarkBlack wrote:

I have no interest in fussing about with rules that maybe sound cool but have little effect other than bogging the game down and I'm not paying that much for that many books.

I just watched Mountain Miniatures spend 5 minutes figuring out if a marching flying monster is entitled to the free pivot after movement.

Just like the opinions above -I don't deny the nostalgia bait is strong and I'm not immune to the dorky appeal of vintage models, but the expense of
-$$$
-time one game takes
-amount of rules to learn*
just isn't worth the tactically shallow and emotionally flat, non-interactive experience.

*-most of which seem to be there not to offer more options and choices to players but rather tell them when and how to roll even more dice

Did a quick count with the online the old world armybuilder (no rules but at least point costs) and came up with that I have almost 4k points in Mantic Empire of Dust models that work fine as Tomb Kings. With magic items and unit upgrades it should be closer to 5k pts. Just need to build and paint it all... Have cleaned up 220 lower bodies of plastic skeleton warriors, 100 metal shields, 80 metal bows + quivers and over halfway done with the archer bodies over the last 7 days (took an entire evening just to clip them off their sprues). Should get my 300 25mm bases from Renedra today or tomorrow (they got stuck in customs :( or I would have had them last week).

My Empire army is already at around 3,2k without any characters, magic items/banners of command units or veteran upgrades. With all the upgrades and heroes I should be close to 7k points. Only a little bit over half is built and painted so far but should still be able to field at leas a decent 2k list without any problems. Already had extra larger and more flexible sized movement trays so this army could be fielded in 6th, 7th, 9th age or KoW so probably don't even need to get extra trays for now for this army.

When I tallied everything up and realized that I have way more models than I need and don't need to actually buy anything else other than some bases, movement trays and magnets (which I won't buy from GW) my interest and motivation spiked even more.

At worst I will just paint and build models I already have had for a while and any monetary cost will be minimal if the game flops. With 2 armies I can demo it for others and I will post updates on my army building on the club discord to drive some interest and hopefully we will get a good sized group to try it out in the near future. 1 player already bought my old Wood Elf army and I know 1 player who is 3d printing some stuff for his Empire army.

I'll give the rules a go, but will not rebase anything.

Nope. The game bored the hell out of me after a couple of years playing and nothing I've seen is convincing me it won't again. As said earlier, there's nothing it offers that can't be found for better and cheaper in other places.