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I like it all.

The new Storm Cast are a real improvement, kudos.

I still don't know why they are so locked and incompatible with other kits but at well, that's what clippers and green stuff are for.

The new Palladors look like a massive downgrade over the Vanguard ones. Technically good, but the dynamism of the previous iteration is nowhere to be seen.

That Griffon or Morrgryph or what it's named is really nice....except for that most tactical of tactical rocks where his rear legs are standing on. The question that popped in my head when i saw it was 'why?': it serves no purpose and in this case it makes the model look rediculous from the side...like it's stretching specifically to reach those rocks. It just makes the model look bad, which is a shame as the rest of the model looks great.

Pretty neat; had hoped for more corvid things like Skaventide's Lord-Vigilant on Gryph-stalker, but at least these won't be as tempting to obtain for Tzeentch conversions, which I'm perfectly fine with.

Now that I'm awake and actually had a chance to look at these properly, I'm in the at least one of everything camp. These are genuinely fantastic glow ups. The Morrgryph especially is wonderful.

Nice Relictor. I'll take one.

lost_lilliputian wrote:
That big griffon piece is very nice not sure what it's called but reminds me of a hippogriff or something similar.

In instances like this it's best to just call it a chirpycat and not worry about the exact name. That's generally a good idea when it comes to AoS creatures.

JWh85 wrote:
That Griffon or Morrgryph or what it's named is really nice....except for that most tactical of tactical rocks where his rear legs are standing on. The question that popped in my head when i saw it was 'why?': it serves no purpose and in this case it makes the model look rediculous from the side...like it's stretching specifically to reach those rocks. It just makes the model look bad, which is a shame as the rest of the model looks great.

I'd want to wait for a 360° view to form a firm opinion, but it looks like the tactical rock is a wall crumbling under the chirpycat's weight/forward momentum? The thought might be to give the mount some motion. Or maybe it's just landed and picked a bad spot. Or it's ready to pounce.

I do agree, though. Strange choice that stood out negatively to me the moment I saw it.

 Geifer wrote:


I'd want to wait for a 360° view to form a firm opinion, but it looks like the tactical rock is a wall crumbling under the chirpycat's weight/forward momentum? The thought might be to give the mount some motion. Or maybe it's just landed and picked a bad spot. Or it's ready to pounce.

I do agree, though. Strange choice that stood out negatively to me the moment I saw it.

It's probably to give it a bigger frontal appearance. Without the height in the back it would look pretty flat from the front.
Also it give it the typical "predator animal slowly stalking down a rock towards the main character" image thats used in every type of movie/series

 Matrindur wrote:

 Geifer wrote:


I'd want to wait for a 360° view to form a firm opinion, but it looks like the tactical rock is a wall crumbling under the chirpycat's weight/forward momentum? The thought might be to give the mount some motion. Or maybe it's just landed and picked a bad spot. Or it's ready to pounce.

I do agree, though. Strange choice that stood out negatively to me the moment I saw it.

It's probably to give it a bigger frontal appearance. Without the height in the back it would look pretty flat from the front.
Also it give it the typical "predator animal slowly stalking down a rock towards the main character" image thats used in every type of movie/series

This is the impression i got, as if it's in a low, stalking pose.

I didn’t care for her Morrgryph until I realized it has a cute little executioner hood on

 GaroRobe wrote:
I didn’t care for her Morrgryph until I realized it has a cute little executioner hood on

Well, "cute little executioner hood" is not a phrase you encounter every day, but I can get behind it.

I despise SCE as much as anyone, but these are pretty neat models. Bar the lord celestant on foot whos absolutely atrocious. What a terribly goofy pose

fantastic models all around!

Those palladors are a big downgrade. Really lumbering stiff poses for the mounts. The old ones looked graceful and fast.

The griffon looks suitably intimidating, but the pose is a bit awkward. Copies the Kruleboyz boss pose on his giant rat thing from the Dominion box. Only one of the two griffon heads work well with the pose imo.

Reclusians still best new design.

lost_lilliputian wrote:
Wow some impressive miniatures coming here

That big griffon piece is very nice not sure what it's called but reminds me of a hippogriff or something similar.

No hooves; it's just a regular griff(i/o)n! And a very nice-looking one at that!

Oh my wallet is crying in a corner somewhere. But that's okay, until I get some of my credit card debt paid off I'm not going to be able to afford more miniatures anyways, unless I sell some of what I already have for store credit down at the FLGS.

New Battletome design article:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/08/30/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-new-battletomes-for-a-new-edition/

And I have to say I like what I'm seeing here

Hm, i like that a chunk of the fluff is being written "in character" so to speak. Should make it fun.

No points in the book though. I guess it makes sense with how often they fiddle with them these days. Although i'm not going to lie, as worthless as they were, i'm going to kind of miss the old style ltd ed books. Incredibly over priced and useless, but swish looking.

I'm a touch cautious on the idea of separating rules and lore if just because I never considered a codex/battletome to be all that cumbersome to hold. Most of the issues were never about its size, but about how GW would lay out info (And that was most often much less of an issue for AOS than 40K)

I'll be interested to see how this experiment goes. The lack of points is annoying, even if they go out of date its still nice to have them in the book to make it a "all in one functional" document.

But it's not functional anymore the second they start playing with the points. It's out of date an worthless to the book.

it's nice to consider that someone could pick up the book without the internet and play a game as-is, but that's just not how people are playing games these days. there are still people without internet in their homes, but as far as warhammer is concerned, it can only be a minority, especially because the sort of person who is interested in this kind of game is probably also online to be learning about it there

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
But it's not functional anymore the second they start playing with the points. It's out of date an worthless to the book.

You can say that about any of the warscroll info when they adjust the wording on rules too.

It's just as valid or invalid.


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 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
it's nice to consider that someone could pick up the book without the internet and play a game as-is, but that's just not how people are playing games these days. there are still people without internet in their homes, but as far as warhammer is concerned, it can only be a minority, especially because the sort of person who is interested in this kind of game is probably also online to be learning about it there

The thing is consider how popular some classic versions of the games are. If you want to play 2ndedition you can. You grab the books, the FAQ and go.
Now granted the Books are secondhand and the FAQ might be housed on a 3rd party site now, but you can do it. Or you can save your books and details now for the future.

A system that's bound to a digital distribution system is 100% going to lose that data as soon as a new edition lands. Heck even when current GW re-released old books digitally they stripped the rules out.

so in the future you won't be able to play this edition of AoS without more reliance on 3rd party sites to store more info, even if you saved all your game material.




Again I totally get that fast updating to points and rules means that the books fall out of date fast; but I still like the "its all in one" comprehensive approach.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
But it's not functional anymore the second they start playing with the points. It's out of date an worthless to the book.

You know, not everyone plays in a hyper-competitive environment that needs up-to-the-second points updates. I'm sure that nearly everyone that plays Warhammer has internet access, but I'm also sure there are a few who don't - I think GW could've afforded the page or two it would've taken to include the points.

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
But it's not functional anymore the second they start playing with the points. It's out of date an worthless to the book.

You know, not everyone plays in a hyper-competitive environment that needs up-to-the-second points updates. I'm sure that nearly everyone that plays Warhammer has internet access, but I'm also sure there are a few who don't - I think GW could've afforded the page or two it would've taken to include the points.

Printers operate in certain multiples of pages, so adding the points in would mean something else gets cut - in this case the article implies that the new rules reference page was pretty much a one-to-one substitution. It seems more useful to me than the points were.

You don't even have to add a page - just you know put the points on the warscroll page

Really like that art of Callis, Toll and Valius.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
But it's not functional anymore the second they start playing with the points. It's out of date an worthless to the book.

Those points won't be online forever. As with the video games industry, tying things to online functionality dooms them to inevitable unusability. The next edition rolls around, but someone wants to stick with these books, they're going to be doing so points-less.

 Matrindur wrote:

 Geifer wrote:


I'd want to wait for a 360° view to form a firm opinion, but it looks like the tactical rock is a wall crumbling under the chirpycat's weight/forward momentum? The thought might be to give the mount some motion. Or maybe it's just landed and picked a bad spot. Or it's ready to pounce.

I do agree, though. Strange choice that stood out negatively to me the moment I saw it.

It's probably to give it a bigger frontal appearance. Without the height in the back it would look pretty flat from the front.
Also it give it the typical "predator animal slowly stalking down a rock towards the main character" image thats used in every type of movie/series

Its a really common pose for monsters lately. Belthanos had almost the exact same pose for his mega bug and Tahlia Vedra the same style but wings open. I would even count Ionus Cryptborn as having the same pose for his dragon. Smaller guys include CoS general on horse is riding down a slope of random ruins like Belladamma Volga and Gnashtoof killaboss, and probably more.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
But it's not functional anymore the second they start playing with the points. It's out of date an worthless to the book.

Those points won't be online forever. As with the video games industry, tying things to online functionality dooms them to inevitable unusability. The next edition rolls around, but someone wants to stick with these books, they're going to be doing so points-less.

Before a new edition drops I hit the download section and grab all the PDFs.

It’s not perfect, like legacy app support would be for old editions. But useful for archival and retro reaons.

Rats are up:

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