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Hi all, I'm new to 40k, and I figured it would be a good idea to work on some lists before I go out and buy models I’m never going to use. I’m looking to build a shooty space marine army that is a take on all comers list. I love the models, and there's something cool about knights in space that I can't quite put my finger on. I’m still working on the fluff, but I like the idea of a new chapter w/o too many warm bodies to throw into assault.

 

If I could get some feedback on 1) how bloated the lists are and 2) how forgiving each list is to newbie mistakes, that would be great. Also, if you had to choose, which list would you pick? 

 

List 1

 

Traits: Suffer Not the Work of Heretics, Die Standing

 

Chapter Master

Jump Pack, 2x Lightning Claws,

125 pts.

 

Epistolary

Storm Bolter, Fury of the Anciencts, Fear of the Darkness, Terminator Armor

159 pts.

 

Librarian HQ Squad

4 Terminators, 2 Assault Cannons, 1 Chain Fist

205 Pts.

 

Tac Squads x 4

6 Marines, Lascannon, Plasma, Tank Hunters

532 Pts.

 

Land Speeder Tornado x 3

240 pts. (each in its own Fast Attack Slot)

 

Predator Destructor x2

2 Heavy Bolters, Extra Armor, Smoke

236 pts.

 

Whirlwind

85 pts.

 

Total 1497

 

List 2:

Traits: Suffer Not the Work of Heretics, Die Standing

 

Chapter Master

Jump Pack, 2x Lightning Claws, Terminator Honors

140 pts.

 

Epistolary

Storm Bolter, Fury of the Anciencts, Fear of the Darkness, Terminator Armor

159 pts.

 

Librarian HQ Squad

4 Terminators, 2 Assault Cannons, 1 Chain Fist

205 Pts.

 

 

Librarian HQ Squad

4 Terminators, 2 Assault Cannons, 1 Chain Fist

205 Pts.

 

Tac Squad x4

5 Marines, Lascannon, Plasma, Tank Hunters

460 pts.

 

Land Speeder Tornado x2

160 Pts.

 

Assault Squad

5 Marines, Terminator Honors, Powerfist

140 Pts.

 

Predator Destructor x2

2 Heavy Bolters, Extra Armor, Smoke

236 pts.

 

Whirlwind

85 pts.

 

Total: 1500 Points

 

List 3

Traits: Purity Above All, Suffer Not the Works of Heretics, Aspire to Glory, Die Standing

 

Master of Sanctity

Jump Pack, Bolt Pistol, Bionics

126 Pts.

 

Tac Squad x 5

5 Marines, Lascannon, Plasma, Tank Hunter, Apothecary

700 Pts

 

Scout Squad

5 Scouts, 5 Sniper Rifles

 

90 Pts.

 

Assault Squad

9 Marines, Terminator Honors, Power Fist

228 Points

 

Predator Destructor x3

2 Heavy Bolters, Extra Armor, Smoke

354 pts.

 

Total: 1498

If you managed to read through all of this, thanks, and I'd appreciate any feedback.

A few little points: (I can't be bothered to write a whole list at the moment)

Your big choice is whether you want to go heavy on vehicles, or infantry. Either way, you will have some of each, but you need to decide what the main target you present your opponent will be.

You're making a similar mistake to the one I made when I first started my marines. Predators are used with Razorback-heavy lists, Whirlwinds are sometimes used for infantry-heavy lists. Neither of them should get any vehicle upgrades - except maybe Rough Terrain mod/extra armour in cluttered/Cities of Death boards - as both are for shooting support.

Tank Hunters is not such a good buy for guys with bolt guns. It is handy for Devastators, however - Honour Your Wargear > Suffer Not the Work of Heretics. It is also sometimes a useful skill for Terminators due to their assault cannons - fun when you get S13 from a rend.