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  Looks like the imperium kicked major butt and the Necrons are at the bottom of the totem pole with all others scattered between.

  Here's the link:

http://medusa.us.games-workshop.com/campaign/factions/conclusion.htm

   
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Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.

*blinks and misses the whole campaign*

After the debarcle that was EoT I gave up on these things. And the most played army in the entire game won? What a shock!

BYE

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Brotherhood of Blood

I agree. After the EOT I never gave Medusa a second thought. I knew the outcome would go Marines when Medusa fluff first hit.
   
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The funny thing is that the necrons one the mega battle that was to create their shield generator that was to capture the whole planate trapping everyone on it. I can see how well GW pays attention to the battle reports given for these things. It is like they have a pre-determined ending no matter how things actually go.
   
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Soviet Kanukistan

The result was never in doubt.
   
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South NJ/Philly

Yeah the imperium won, but the Marines and Guard took the top two spots. At least it was supported by the results given.

   
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What a shock and it was so well supported with additional fluff, extra missions, modelling projects and alternate campaign army lists in the White Dwarf magazines (note heavy sarcasm)

I much prefer the scenario campaigns in the Forge world books where the in IA3 and 4 the Imperium gets the hoo haas kicked out of them, no wonder GW hates them so.
   
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Why would anyone even bother with this? I was initially interested in some of the special games, but they didnt happen anywhere near me. If you bother to look at some of the individual player records, youll see more cheating than burnthexenos with a brand new pen. I saw a Tyranid player that reported 2-3 games a day, he only played against 2 or 3 other players, and each of them somehow had the same kind of army. Theres no way to know if anything reported is valid, and anyone can tell that a lot of it isnt. And gee, the most popular army 'won'. Alert the press.
   
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I didn't play a game either.

Oh the times of Armageddon. Remember that mega battle in WD that took place in many different tables and gorgeous terrain? Those were the times!



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In da Mekshop

There has to be some kind of formula that someone can come up with that would even things out in campaigns like this.

If there are X number of the lowest amount of armies (say Necrons) and there are 5X the number of marine armies, couldn't the marine results then be divided by 5 to get a more even result? At least something INTERESTING and couldn't be predicted at the get-go?

I'm no math genius by a long shot, but unless something like the above idea is done, I don't see much point in participating or even paying attention to these campaigns.

The playing field needs evening. Heck, if there was something that GW could do that would represent the actual racial makeup of the galaxy (give Orks and Guard some kind of boost as they are numberically superior, give marines a nerf because there are so few of them by comparison) then that could be interesting as well.

Otherwise, why bother? The EoT was actually interesting, and there was a difference made there, at least on the ork side. This one was more like watching rats fighting to get off a sinking ship. You already knw the ship is going to sink... so...?

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if they were serious about honest results, they could easily add a card with an id# to each white dwarf as an insert. then when results are entered, it would need to match up in a database. simple and easy.

of course it would require someone to setup a database.... maybe they could get to it as soon as the FAQS are done.

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Minneapolis, MN

Space marines 1st (I am shocked...)
Imperial gaurd 2nd
Eldar 3rd (big suprise also, with their codex being next)
chaos 4th
darkeldar 5th
tau 6th
orks 6th
tyranids 8th
necrons 9th

Well, theyre all winners. Everyone gets a ribbon!

Its like the special olympics of the 40K universe!


   
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What's Medusa V?

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Orlando, Florida

The Space Marine winnign wasn't too much of a shock, but the standings of the other races where pretty interesting.

Imperial Guard taking second? Everybody who played Guard should congradulate themselves. I think it may be a by-product of good Guard players spreading the word on how their army works.

Eldar third? Not bad for an old codex (though to be fair their current dex is pretty hard, just limited in choices.

Tyranids placing low is a little surprising, I chulk it up to the new players have too many options syndrome, as you can have a pretty hard list from this codex.

Necorns last isn't surprising, they are won of the harder armies to master in a competitive environment.

Medusa V to me was only a success because of the things my local FLGS did. Sci-Fi had its own Medusa V game tracker (games played in the store could be submitted to the managers, for prizes, I won best sportsman and got an Eldar Battleforce out of it). We had a CoD tournament (I won), an RTT, Conversion and Terrain contests, and 2 Mega Battles (We will have a third in a few weeks).

I recommend to everyone, have a campaign in your local store. Make it about any fluff you want, keep track of the games played towards it and see who won. Offer prizes, etc. It really makes games exicting over your standard open gaming.

Current Armies: Blood Angels, Imperial Guard (40k), Skorne, Retribution (Warmachine), Vampire Counts (Fantasy)

 
   
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Las Vegas, NV

fair or not, it was still fun to watch. Fun like watching a kids cartoon, where you know the good guys will win but at least it is entertaining. I guess i am not completely jaded yet.

and in the EoT campaign, didnt chaos almost win? it was fought to a near stalemate if i am not mistaken?


   
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Jeez you guys are a bit of a buzzkill. Life and Epic kept me out tof the campaign as well, but it was a nice post to hang on store related events. Its nice to see the Imperium stomp something once in a while. As to why guard beat chaos, DE, and Nids, well never bring a knife to a gunfight buahahah.

All hail Ollanius Pius patron saint of meat shields!

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If it was all about how many people play the army then how did DE beat Tau? It doesn't really make sense to me that the top 3 are good guys. Maybe they had better communication on the boards? I don't know. But I'm happy that the DE did pretty well considering they are a mail order only army. Even though I didn't participate at all in this one.
   
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It's obvious if you followed the reported battles that there was massive cheating going on. Whether this affected the final results I have no idea.

SMs are the most popular army and had the most reported battles, but CSM are second most popular and IG third. These results aren't far off the campaign results. There was probably a factor of reported battles increasing win rating. What's more surprising is that Chaos didn't come ninth, since their winning conditions and SMs were opposite to each other.

When all's said and done, we can be sure that GW applied their usual skill and attention to detail and fairness to the overall campaign. No matter how surprising the results may seem, we can be absolutely sure they are completely above board and justifiable.

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I believe that confirmed vs. non-confirmed battles was also a big difference. But that's not to say that the IP hackers can't come up with a way around having more than one or 70 accounts.

I would like to see something from GW more substantial. Something that has an ever lasting effect on the progressive background.... *snooooooooort* (yes they'll do that right after they write the perfect rulebook).

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Now we need the warp storm to disgorge the remains of a crone world, a ork hulk lost in the warp for millennia, and the Emperor's flagship High Times so we can have.....

Fall of Medusa V, part deux: Fall Harder

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Puget sound region, WA

Jeeeeze what a bunch of jaded whiners! "Nothing is good enough! Everythings ALWAYS predetermend these days! I like the old days of rocking chairs when the Emperor and I sat on the porch and talked about the new fangled things called bolters and plowing the back 40!"

Since the results were based on battles won, it doesn't mater who plays the biggest faction- just the most wins. You have a lot of SM players (as many folks like to say "The favorite army of kids" ) getting their butts kicked, that does nothing but give enemy a better score.

It was a lot of fun.  I played a ton of games and took 8 medals, one of them awarded at the mega-battles (titans, super heavies, fliers and 60k worth of points on the field). I felt the harder you played the better your faction would do.  Cheaters will always be there but it was a heck of a lot better than Armeggeddon system which allowed rampent abuse.

Lighten up, take part, play games with your friends, make new ones, have fun.

 
   
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Las Vegas, NV

hahaha, seriosuly, its not like anyone was betting their house on the outcome. It was good fun anyway.

   
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I understand why the GW studio feels they have to do it...

 

...but I really, REALLY hate how the last few campaigns have been "find an excuse to have every race in 40K fight".  Give it up already - there is no good excuse why every race in the entire stupidly frickin' huge galaxy should hang out on one single planet/region at the same time.  None. 

 

What they need to do is just say "This campaign is going to be ____ vs. ____.  Period.  If you don't have one of those two armies, or want to start one, then you'll just have to suck it up and wait until the next campaign.  Or start your own."  This goody goody "lets make it so everyone feels like they can join in and feel warm and fuzzy" BS hurts the game, not helps it. 

 

Armageddon 3 was Imperium vs. Orks, and it was fun that way.  They should stick to that model, it worked.  The background developed for it was actually plausible, was rich and exciting, and did a great job at immersion.  The campaign actually felt like it was important.

   
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Canada

Yeah- I've yet to be as inspired by a campaign like I was with Armageddon. But that could be me. I still think a summer romp on a random planet is better then nothing.

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Posted By Drake_Marcus on 09/06/2006 8:17 PM
Yeah- I've yet to be as inspired by a campaign like I was with Armageddon.
And that sweet poster of Yarrick taking on Thraka.  Now that was a poster!

Now we get next month's releases as a centerfold.

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Canada

Yeah... it's kind of sad that we can't even expect a cool poster from GW anymore.

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Piercing the heavens

well, first...I hate it. I know, something like this would have to happen, but the last time I checked the results, Necrons were better than Marines. well Chaso was down all the time, and I think Eldar were on 1st. I knew this wozld happen but I'm still pissed.

and the whole include-every-race thing, well on Armageddon you could ssay Chaos worked for Orks and EoT Orks worked for Chaos, but seriously, there just would't be much sense in making a worldwide campaign for...let's say 'Nids vs. Eldar (Illianyden II).

well, at least Nazdreg got away
   
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The Great State of Texas

Posted By Jester on 09/06/2006 2:49 PM
Now we need the warp storm to disgorge the remains of a crone world, a ork hulk lost in the warp for millennia, and the Emperor's flagship High Times so we can have.....

Fall of Medusa V, part deux: Fall Harder



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Posted By Jezza on 09/06/2006 9:41 AM
What a shock and it was so well supported with additional fluff, extra missions, modelling projects and alternate campaign army lists in the White Dwarf magazines (note heavy sarcasm)

Hahahahaha. Very nice.

But you're wrong though. Medusa was very heavily supported in WD. WD never missed a single opportunity to remind us about all the new releases.

BYE

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"GW really needs to understand 'Less is more' when it comes to AoS." - Wha-Mu-077

 
   
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The Great State of Texas

Posted By H.B.M.C. on 09/07/2006 4:40 AM
Posted By Jezza on 09/06/2006 9:41 AM
What a shock and it was so well supported with additional fluff, extra missions, modelling projects and alternate campaign army lists in the White Dwarf magazines (note heavy sarcasm)

Hahahahaha. Very nice.

But you're wrong though. Medusa was very heavily supported in WD. WD never missed a single opportunity to remind us about all the new releases.

BYE


You have a point there HBMC.  I especially enjoyed the batrep/new mission  in the most recent WD that turned out not to be a batrep,  just a  minis showcase.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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