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Trait Advantages:
Cleanse and Purify

Minor Drawbacks:
Die Standing

Epistolary Ezarus, (Replacement for Storm of the Emperors wrath)Fear of the Darkness, Might of Heroes, Master crafted Power fist, Force weapon, Psychic hood, Bionics, Purity seals, Terminator armour, Adamantine Mantle
=245pts (wow thats alot, oh well lol)

Dreadnought Assault cannon, dread CCW, Storm bolter, Extra armour, Searchlight
=111pts

Dreadnought Assault cannon, dread CCW, Storm bolter, Extra armour, Searchlight
=111pts

Tactical Squad Alfa 1 10 marines, Veteran Sergeant, Storm Bolter, 2xPlasma guns, Frag grenades
=205pts

Tactical Squad Alfa 2 10 marines, Veteran Sergeant, Storm Bolter, 2xPlasma guns, Frag grenades
=205pts

Tactical Squad Bravo 1 10 marines, Veteran Sergeant, Storm Bolter, 2xMeltaguns, Frag grenades
=205pts

Tactical Squad Bravo 2 10 marines, Veteran Sergeant, Storm Bolter, 2xMeltaguns, Frag grenades
=205pts

Biker squad Charlie 1 5 marines, Veteran Sergeant, Power weapon, 2xmeltaguns, Krak grenades
=210pts

Biker squad Charlie 2 5 marines, Veteran Sergeant, Power weapon, 2xmeltaguns, Krak grenades
=210pts

Predator Annihilator Delta 1, Twin linked Lascannons, Sponson Lascannons, Searchlight
=146

Predator Annihilator Delta 2, Twin linked Lascannons, Sponson Lascannons, Searchlight
=146

Predators provide a base of fire
Infantry advance pouring fire into the enemy
Dreadnoughts support infantry advance
Bikers advance along flanks and destroy enemy armour and flank units
Librarian Forces moral check at enemy lines with Fear of the Darkness
Infantry perform counter charge with dreads and bikers
Librarian hunts down characters and vehicles

Basic tactics, but they might work, its all about advancing and catching the enemy off guard, giving him/her too many things too worry about at once, bikers on flanks, infantry advancing on doorstep, a hard as nails character, and tanks destroying his/her armour

How exactly are you going to catch them off guard? The Infantry and Libby can be ignored until turn three giving your opponent two turns to deal with the dreads, tanks, & bikes. If your opponent is smart the tanks will be the primary targets anything left over hits the dreads. With all of the anti-infantry hitting the bikes. No this is an attrition list, hoping you have enough stuff get across the field to do some damage. Gun lines and mech lists will give you fits.

You need more long range threats. The advancing part of your force needs much more fire support. Or your need to add speed.

Yes but add what, there is plenty of fire-power in my opinion since this list is made for fighting in rather built up areas meaning close range fire and speed can be crucial to getting on the enemies flanks, and if the tanks are the primary targets and the infantry do arrive by turn three then there meltaguns will be in range and I can get into combat, and the Librarian can use fear of Darkness, meaning ignoring them would be the dumbest thing ever by any human being, once the tanks destroy the enemy armour then there job is done.

plus how can I add more speed, I hate Land speeders since there vulnerable to even bolt pistols, and there are plenty of bikers, 10 seems more than I have ever seen in my entire 12yrs of playing this game, even Ravenwing armies have had less (mainly cuz the players deck there sergeants out with every piece of kit like noobs)

and mech lists?, they don`t exist any more, its all stupid damn Tyranids and Blood Angels, stupid armies for those that don`t know what the word tactics means, and require no skill to use at all

Looks more like a DP list. Drop the preds and one of the tac squdas. Add a termie retinue for the libby and then buy pods for the command squad, dreads and tacs. Use the bikes to take objectives while your opponent is dealing with the masses of marines falling from the skies.

ender502

Can`t take drop pods, I have Die standing, and since most battles I fight are city based its suicide

Don`t want Terminators everyone uses them and it gets boring seeing everyones army look the same

Fire power and fire support are different things. You have alot of short to mid-range shooting. Any infantry moving won't be shooting. So your first turn will be rather light. Your list doesn't match your battle plan.



Your list is fixable, your attitude isn't.

FYI Tau, Eldar, and Guard can make excellent mech lists.

Don`t mention the attitude, it`s always been bad, I ain`t got no reason to change it, got no reason to be happy, so it will stay bad.

and I didn`t say that they can`t make good mech lists actually, I said they no longer exist, you no longer see them, it`s all damn stupid Nids everywhere I go

I have a guard Mech list it has 9 different leman russ varients in it.