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2007/01/16 07:29:29
Subject: Red Blok
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Perfect Shot Black Templar Predator Pilot
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Another speculation thread about Rackham's AT-43 game, which I have become intensely interested in.
We've seen the Therians and the UNA in their currently limited range, but does anyone know about the third faction? CryHavoc online said that they'll be releasing more information about them in Newsletter #13, but I'm curious to hear some speculation.
CK
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"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling, which thinks that nothing is worth war, is much worse. The person, who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
-- John Stuart Mill
 Black Templars (8000),  Imperial Guard (3000),  Sanguinary Host (2000),  Tau Empire (1850),  Bloodaxes (3000) |
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2007/01/16 07:37:21
Subject: RE: Red Blok
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There was a pic of a prototype previewed here a couple of months ago; pretty cool looking, actually.
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I think the lesson here is the best way to enjoy GW's games is to not use any of their rules.--Crimson Devil |
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2007/01/16 23:20:16
Subject: RE: Red Blok
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Perfect Shot Black Templar Predator Pilot
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You wouldn't happen to have a link, would you? I'm interested in seeing what they look like.
CK
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"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling, which thinks that nothing is worth war, is much worse. The person, who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
-- John Stuart Mill
Black Templars (8000), Imperial Guard (3000), Sanguinary Host (2000), Tau Empire (1850), Bloodaxes (3000) |
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2007/01/17 03:50:16
Subject: RE: Red Blok
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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2007/01/17 05:39:47
Subject: RE: Red Blok
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Perfect Shot Black Templar Predator Pilot
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Thanks for the link. They look pretty good, but not what I expected. When you say bottom of the thread, am I right in assuming that you meant the bottom of the first page, or somewhere else? I'll be perusing through it later when I have more time.
CK
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"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling, which thinks that nothing is worth war, is much worse. The person, who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
-- John Stuart Mill
Black Templars (8000), Imperial Guard (3000), Sanguinary Host (2000), Tau Empire (1850), Bloodaxes (3000) |
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2007/01/17 05:45:08
Subject: RE: Red Blok
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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Of course bottom of the page. Since the shown figs are quite old, the design could change until summer 2007.
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André Winter
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2007/01/17 06:59:25
Subject: RE: Red Blok
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Perfect Shot Black Templar Predator Pilot
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Okay, jeez, I was just asking, Duncan_Idaho. Sorry that I can't read German.
I'm looking forward to seeing how Red Blok turns out. If they look half as good as UNA White Stars, I'll definitely look into getting this game.
CK
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"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling, which thinks that nothing is worth war, is much worse. The person, who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
-- John Stuart Mill
Black Templars (8000), Imperial Guard (3000), Sanguinary Host (2000), Tau Empire (1850), Bloodaxes (3000) |
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2007/01/17 07:13:11
Subject: RE: Red Blok
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
Up your nose with a rubber hose.
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Posted By Corpsman_of_Krieg on 01/17/2007 11:59 AM
Okay, jeez, I was just asking, Duncan_Idaho. Sorry that I can't read German.
Indeed. I was wondering the same thing. Duncan, many forums allow you to specify the number of posts displayed per page, so the bottom of your page could be the middle of the page to someone else. No need to try and make someone feel stupid. Posted By Corpsman_of_Krieg on 01/17/2007 11:59 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing how Red Blok turns out. If they look half as good as UNA White Stars, I'll definitely look into getting this game.
Regarding this: http://www.ciclidi.it/_DUST/GFX/WIP/AT-43-full-01.jpg Isn't there's still some question as to whether or not it's an AT-43 Red Blok dude, or something from Dust? Here's a prototype of one of the Red Blok troops: 
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2007/01/17 07:24:29
Subject: RE: Red Blok
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Perfect Shot Black Templar Predator Pilot
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Thanks for the pictures, Elusive. I'm really liking the way they look. I guess I'll have something to look forward to this summer after all.
CK
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"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling, which thinks that nothing is worth war, is much worse. The person, who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
-- John Stuart Mill
Black Templars (8000), Imperial Guard (3000), Sanguinary Host (2000), Tau Empire (1850), Bloodaxes (3000) |
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2007/01/17 07:49:18
Subject: RE: Red Blok
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
Up your nose with a rubber hose.
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Having browsed further into the thread that Duncan posted, I'm not 100% sure that it is a Red Blok trooper, but it does have a different look than the White Stars, and has been called Red Blok on other boards... Here's some more pics of Red Blok walkers that had been posted on Les Etendards de la Lumière (I couldn't find them on in the site anymore, otherwise I would have just posted a direct link): 
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2007/01/17 09:46:39
Subject: RE: Red Blok
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Perfect Shot Black Templar Predator Pilot
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Wow. Thanks Elusive.
I like the large combat strider, but that small one just looks too clunky to me - like it's going to fall on its front and not be able to get back up.
I'm still not going to pass judgement on any of the factions, but the UNA is now up there with Red Blok on my level of interest, due to the disappointment that is that small RB Combat Strider.
CK
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"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling, which thinks that nothing is worth war, is much worse. The person, who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
-- John Stuart Mill
Black Templars (8000), Imperial Guard (3000), Sanguinary Host (2000), Tau Empire (1850), Bloodaxes (3000) |
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2007/01/17 10:40:36
Subject: RE: Red Blok
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Eternally-Stimulated Slaanesh Dreadnought
Up your nose with a rubber hose.
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Keep in mind that there will be other factions in the future, both human and alien... The Red Blok are shaping up to my favorite faction so far, but I can't wait to see what other aliens are planned. The Therian are well done, but the "GW Chaos meets 3rd angel from Evangelion" look doesn't do it for me.
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2007/01/17 11:13:49
Subject: RE: Red Blok
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Foul Dwimmerlaik
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Kinda funny how rackham makes better elysians than GW does....
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2007/01/17 11:24:01
Subject: RE: Red Blok
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I was about too say that too
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The Red shirts are dying !!!!! It's Nuthing but a Death shroud!!!(Warp11) |
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2007/01/17 11:24:33
Subject: RE: Red Blok
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I like the look of all of those, however pre-painted isn't really something I'm interested in.
Rackham does make great minis though. I definitely wouldn't mind picking up some of their awesome fantasy minis.
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2007/01/17 11:41:51
Subject: RE: Red Blok
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Dakka Veteran
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The face on that guy is awesome.
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2007/01/17 13:22:42
Subject: RE: Red Blok
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Plastictrees
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Not funny at all! Rackham is willing to pay the price of quality, GW isn't.  I'm digging the MaK-esqueness of those Red Blok suits, I'm just hoping that they get more detail on them. If not, I don't think they'll be worth the premium cost (from being preassembled and prepainted).
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2007/01/17 13:50:58
Subject: RE: Red Blok
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Jinking Ravenwing Land Speeder Pilot
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The miniatures are nice, but the weapons stink. I like the mechs, though. Very Dust.
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2007/01/17 13:57:12
Subject: RE: Red Blok
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Regular Dakkanaut
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i have too agree with jester there weapons are lacking detail but heck that easy fix with a knife and green stuff and lasgun ..... or bolter
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The Red shirts are dying !!!!! It's Nuthing but a Death shroud!!!(Warp11) |
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2007/01/17 13:57:44
Subject: RE: Red Blok
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Fixture of Dakka
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Posted By nyarlathotep667 on 01/17/2007 6:22 PM
I'm digging the MaK-esqueness of those Red Blok suits, I'm just hoping that they get more detail on them
Well that's exactly what I'm thinking. Brilliantly Dust-tascular!
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2007/01/17 17:01:33
Subject: RE: Red Blok
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
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The Red Blok troopers are AWESOME! They look much better than the White Stars, but their guns with drums look like Ork Shootaz, and their Striders are equally uninspiring. AND, in AT-43, how come nobody can be shouldering their damn rifle? (Sorry, rant off)
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2007/01/17 20:36:02
Subject: RE: Red Blok
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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Well the pictures are more than a year old.... hence some improvements are to be expected. On the other hand: modern weapons are not very detailed either.....
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André Winter
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2007/01/17 20:59:14
Subject: RE: Red Blok
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Foul Dwimmerlaik
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Thats the one thing people need to keep in mind when viewing these minis. This isnt 40K (thank god!). Throw all the crap that GW has been force feeding you (like the formula of no less than 13 skulls per model) and then look at them again.
They dont resemble orkshootas. Orkshootas resemble the perforated heat sink (I am assuming thats what that would be) of a normal gun.
That said, I dont like the guns myself as well. But at least they look far more realistc than anything GW likes to make you swallow.
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2007/01/17 23:31:18
Subject: RE: Red Blok
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Unhealthy Competition With Other Legions
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Those photos are from Gencon Indy last year IIRC. I don't recall Rackham saying anything specific about them other than the fact that they were AT-43 minis.
Red Block is a pretty good guess for what they are but I agree with Duncan. These are fairly old so it wouldn't surprise me if they had been reworked since then.
The minis almost look like resin test moulds.
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