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**Task and Purpose**

I saw this and thought it was interesting...waaay better than the GW giveaway.

The Great Empire Giveaway

The first of hopefully many, great Battlewagon Bits Mega Giveaways. For the month of January we will giving away the following Empire Army

2x Empire Soldiers Regiment
2x Empire Militia
Empire Knightly Order
2x Empire Great Cannons
2x Boxes of Flagellents
Steam Tank
2x Empire Greatswords
2x OOP Empire Detachments
2x Kislev Kossars

To win this MEGA GIVEAWAY just make a purchase of any Warhammer Fantasy Item(s) over $25. Every order like this is a chance to win.

We will draw one lucky winner from these orders on FEB 2nd. They will have one week to reply to the winner email, or else we will draw again, until someone claims their prize.

The winner will be announced publicly, so all entrys are consent to use your name and likeness for all the world to see!

**malfred**

Don't sweepstakes have to have a freebie or something?

Just wondering.

**pixelgeek**

They do. This is illegal in the US and Canada and someone should tell him. Making a contest entry contingent on a purchase it not legal.

**Hellfury**

Meh.

What does BWB care? They obviously dont feel the AMOE should be adhered to.

www.abanet.org/buslaw/blt/2006-07-08/abrahamson.shtml

"any company that offers a chance to win a prize concurrent with a purchase must also offer the same chance without a purchase"

By the way, reported to the federal consumer protection agency for their consideration.

Take care.

**malfred**

It's the claw hammer all over again!

**Hellfury**

Posted By malfred on 01/16/2007 8:46 PM

It's the claw hammer all over again!

As a simile, I agree. Thats what happens when you turn an ally into an enemy. Loyalty works both ways.

Go ahead...say the word...you know Jester wants to say it...go ahead....make my day punk! lol

**Jester**

Orden de dinero.

**Task and Purpose**

Wow Hellfury what a service you have done in reporting BwBits to the FED. They are trying to reward customers and do something for Fantasy players just the same as GW did with their subscription deal...but better, yeah yeah and make a buck.

Seems like Hellfury is just being a bit of a jerk for no reason...perhaps posts like this is why Dakka's boards have become a haven for what seem to turn into IMs for Hellfury, Malfred, and Jester. You three are practically the only posters on the majority of threads.

Gee I hope your stupid money order never malfunctions due to you slow mailing response, again...dont want you to get tired flexing you internet muscles and email the government because your not happy with a totally separate issue.

Snitches get stiches...or did you not learn that lesson. Hellfury=Rat

**Hellfury**

Posted By Brother CPT Ginn on 01/16/2007 9:46 PM
Wow Hellfury what a service you have done in reporting BwBits to the FED. They are trying to reward customers and do something for Fantasy players just the same as GW did with their subscription deal...but better, yeah yeah and make a buck.

Seems like Hellfury is just being a bit of a jerk for no reason...perhaps posts like this is why Dakka's boards have become a haven for what seem to turn into IMs for Hellfury, Malfred, and Jester. You three are practically the only posters on the majority of threads.

Gee I hope your stupid money order never malfunctions due to you slow mailing response, again...dont want you to get tired flexing you internet muscles and email the government because your not happy with a totally separate issue.

Snitches get stiches...or did you not learn that lesson. Hellfury=Rat

Malfred and Jester have nothing to do with the issue. In fact they make light of my situation to keep my normally bellicose attitude in check.

Hey, I call them like I see them. Why should BWB not be held to the laws like any other company?

By the way, is that a threat?

**Task and Purpose**

LOL threats on the internet are about as serious as global warning...Ill rephrase, Karma is a *female dog*.

**Hellfury**

Posted By Brother CPT Ginn on 01/16/2007 9:57 PM
Karma is a *female dog*.

Yes it is Ginn, yes it is....
Something that is quite apparent in the legality reagarding the subject of this thread. Oh, the irony.....

**the_trooper**

Counter points:

http://www.ioltechnology.co.za/article_page.php?iSectionId=2891&iArticleId=3548932

and

http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/

I was with you for a while there. I had good experiences with BWB but don't make the company sound stupid. Heck, even Hellfury's last incident with you guys prompted me to click the link and end up spending money on two separate orders.

**whitedragon**

Your counter-points are hardly relevant the_trooper. I'm assuming that you are against Hellfury. The first link is about a whack job, and the second is about global warming. Hardly anything to do with the business at hand.

You can all whine and moan all you want about how Hellfury is a poor sport, but regardless of what you believe, Hellfury may have down BWBitz a great service in alerting them to the unlawfullness of their contest.

Much better to have it pulled prematurely and corrected then to suffer a large lawsuit and fine over someone that wasn't able to win for free and is ten times the jerk that Hellfury is.

The law is the law, and thats really all there is to say about that.

**malfred**

Why is that law in place, anyway?

**redstripe**

I've got to go with Hellfury on this one.

This is just another example of BWB doing whatever it feels like, hell or highwater. This contest and Hellfury's experience with the company only show an obvious disdain for good business practice. I would even suggest it shows willful apathy for good business practice. It's just a stupid website ran out of some dude's grandmother's basement, anyhow, right? Nobody's going to slap their wrists, right?

Even homeless street-corner bucket-drummers have to follow the law.

Further, in such a niche market, I wouldn't think you'd have the luxury of torquing off a potential customer. I think Hellfury's reaction is testimony to that axiom.

Snitches get stiches...or did you not learn that lesson. Hellfury=Rat

This isn't prison or Woodstock so I don't know how calling Hellfury a narc is going to get anything accomplished. Hooo-Rah?

**nyarlathotep667**

I could be wrong, but I don't think The_Trooper's comments were "against" Hellfury, nor were they particularly toward him either, but were instead just pointing out the ridiculousness of e-peen waving and his own good experience with BWBitz.

While I too have had good experiences with BWBitz, Hellfury is quite right: This contest is illegal, just as GW's "WD Subscription Sweepstakes" was. Regardless of one's experiences with BWBitz, it doesn't make this "sweepstakes" any more legal or right. But hey, just because you like them, they can do whatever they want, right?

**RanTheCid**

Posted By malfred on 01/16/2007 11:31 PM
Why is that law in place, anyway?

It's to prevent compulsive buying in order to gain more chances to win. It's the sort of thing that Publisher's Clearing House kept getting suited over.

**skkipper**

so where can i sign up for free?
i got my self addressed stamped envolope ready to go.

**malfred**

Wow. That law's kinda crazy. I'm trying to decide whether or not I agree with it.

And Gaaargh, at my school they'd just say

=SURPRESSED BY THE FAMILY I=

**malfred**

Posted By Brother CPT Ginn on 01/16/2007 9:46 PM
Seems like Hellfury is just being a bit of a jerk for no reason...perhaps posts like this is why Dakka's boards have become a haven for what seem to turn into IMs for Hellfury, Malfred, and Jester. You three are practically the only posters on the majority of threads.

Bait! Bait! Bait!

**Drake_Marcus**

well this turned ugly for no reason...