IC joined to Harlequins

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**Sazzlefrats**

1. If a farseer joins a unit of harlequins and races through a group of trees.. what happens. The harlequins ignore cover entirely, so does the unit move only as fast as the slowest member the farseer .... and roll 3d6. Or once the farseer has joined the unit he's no longer an IC even with respect to moving through cover and must roll at 2d6?

2. Lets say the farseer isn't joined to the harlequins. And the harlequins have a shadowseer. Can my opponent ignore the harlequins for purposes of target priority (due to my own veil of tears that says he can) and claim a clean shot at my farseer (assume no othermodels other than the harlequins are near the enemy)

**Slyde**

1. As their flip belts are not a universal special rule, we cant really say that they lose the effect when an IC joins them. I would say the relevent rule would be that a unit moves at the speed of its slowest member, thus you would roll 3d6 and take the highest when moving through cover, as all IC's have move through cover.

2. The harlequins can be ignored, so the farseer is now the closest valid target. He can be shot.

**Sazzlefrats**

I'm still thinking that perhaps in case #2 that the IC is still not a legal target because there is another unit infront of it. The ignore target priority granted by harlequins to the enemy just means a they aren't forced to take a leadership check if they want to shoot something else that isn't closer than the harlies are to them. Thus because the IC is still not the closest legal target he wouldn't be targetable...

is this close to making sense?

**yakface**

Posted By Sazzlefrats on 01/31/2007 6:44 PM
I'm still thinking that perhaps in case #2 that the IC is still not a legal target because there is another unit infront of it. The ignore target priority granted by harlequins to the enemy just means a they aren't forced to take a leadership check if they want to shoot something else that isn't closer than the harlies are to them. Thus because the IC is still not the closest legal target he wouldn't be targetable...

is this close to making sense?

By the RAW I believe that you are entirely correct. While the IC doesn't benefit from the Veil of Tears, as long as he is not the closest target to an enemy unit (and within 6" of the Veiled unit) he is not a valid target.

Unfortunately, Veil doesn't have the same exemption that Tau stealth generators do that don't allow them to screen ICs.

**The Drop Zone**

not sure on #2

but i am 100% sure on number 1
the harlies have to move as slow as the farseer

why? because unless it states that the ability is gained by anyone in the unit the farseer doesnt get that ability.. like it says in certain codex books that if one person has the item then everyone in the unit does... hence the farseer is slow poke charlie compared to them

**Lordhat**

In this case the Diff. Terrain roll would have to be 3d6. [Edited after double checking an assumption, and finding myself wrong :S ]

On number 2

BGB pg. 51

SHOOTING AT CHARACTERS

".... Characters that are not part of a unit can only be chosen as targets if they are the closest target to the firer. ...."

Hmmm..... Veil mentions target priority..... Raw I would say you could not fire at the Farseer.

In a friendly game playing AGAINST Eldar I would go by raw, playing AS Eldar I would let them shoot at my farseer.