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Is dipping a legitimate painting method or a shabby cheat? |
Good dipping is good. |
 
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All dipping is bad. |
 
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5% |
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Total Votes : 56 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/10 20:20:16
Subject: Dipping -- Good or Bad? Let the voice of the people be heard!
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Following on from the Hostility towards Dipping thread, this poll seeks to establish the majority view.
Two options only; it is assumed that no-one is in favour of any kind of unsuccessful techniques.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/10 22:03:25
Subject: Re:Dipping -- Good or Bad? Let the voice of the people be heard!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Anything that gets people painted is good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/11 00:50:57
Subject: Re:Dipping -- Good or Bad? Let the voice of the people be heard!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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As far as I am concerned, a painted army (dipped) is better than a base-coated, and half finished army, that was painstakingly layered. IMHO anyway.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/11 03:14:53
Subject: Re:Dipping -- Good or Bad? Let the voice of the people be heard!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Talk to the guy who has 120 gaunts army. He has to out of convenience has to dip and I dont see a problem as long as it looks good on the board.
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Comparing tournament records is another form of e-peen measuring.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/11 03:39:28
Subject: Re:Dipping -- Good or Bad? Let the voice of the people be heard!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I actually finished a 200 model skaven army and had it on the table fully painted, dipped with highlights, in 6 weeks. I did a squad of 20 each night. The army looked phenomenal. Dipping is the only way to go with a horde.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/11 04:21:08
Subject: Re:Dipping -- Good or Bad? Let the voice of the people be heard!
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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A few of our group have just started dipping. They're a bit shiny, but otherwise look fine.
I can't paint to save myself, so this sort of thing is a God-send.
BYE
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/11 04:31:35
Subject: Re:Dipping -- Good or Bad? Let the voice of the people be heard!
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Dakka Veteran
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Anything that leads to fewer unpainted models is good. Dipping is especially good for people who play hoarde armies.
I don't think it is realistic to expect all models to be painted up to golden demon standards. Painting an entire army is a completely different kettle of fish then painting a single model is.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/11 12:24:31
Subject: Re:Dipping -- Good or Bad? Let the voice of the people be heard!
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Sslimey Sslyth
Busy somewhere, airin' out the skin jobs.
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Hadnt really considered dipping before, but after reading this glut of threads on the subject, and still staring at 60 guardians in my eldar army unpainted since the release of codex:Eldar....I'm convinced, and off to Home Depot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/11 12:27:43
Subject: Re:Dipping -- Good or Bad? Let the voice of the people be heard!
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Krazed Killa Kan
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It's probably the single most amazing thing I've learned about painting models. I suck at doing anything but color within the lines, and even that takes a lot of time out of me.
I test dipped two more Orks and even did a quick paint up of a BfSP Dwarf Thunderer Champion and dipped him to see how Dipped Dwarfs would look. So far they're coming out great and I may end up dipping yet another army to make it look good.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/11 12:39:43
Subject: Re:Dipping -- Good or Bad? Let the voice of the people be heard!
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Sslimey Sslyth
Busy somewhere, airin' out the skin jobs.
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Your dipped ork example was the single most convincing example for me voodoo.
Have you been spinning with or w/o a drill, or are you still shaking?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/11 12:49:02
Subject: Re:Dipping -- Good or Bad? Let the voice of the people be heard!
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Krazed Killa Kan
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The ones posted were shaken, I've been using a drill with dowels since then for my other tests, except for the Dwarf who I wanted to test right away and didn't glue a dowel on to spin him.
I've got a few pics to put up tonight, one with the lighter dip and one with the darker dip on two nearly identical Orks and a lighter dipped Dwarf. Two more models are going to be tested tonight, possibly. I think I'm going to need to make a thread on this.
I also plan on buying an Ogre army and dipping that. My goal is to dedicate a weekend to the project and finish it by Monday.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/11 18:35:18
Subject: Re:Dipping -- Good or Bad? Let the voice of the people be heard!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Good dipping is good, especially when the alternative is bad basecoats, or even primer.
When you are paying a painting company for tabletop-quality, 3 layers and a highlight, and you get good dipping- that is when good dipping is bad.
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He's got a mind like a steel trap. By which I mean it can only hold one idea at a time;
it latches on to the first idea to come along, good or bad; and it takes strenuous effort with a crowbar to make it let go.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/11 18:49:18
Subject: Re:Dipping -- Good or Bad? Let the voice of the people be heard!
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Clousseau
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fellblade wrote:Good dipping is good, especially when the alternative is bad basecoats, or even primer.
When you are paying a painting company for tabletop-quality, 3 layers and a highlight, and you get good dipping- that is when good dipping is bad.
Not that we're thinking of anyone in particular, are we Fellblade?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/11 18:49:35
Subject: Re:Dipping -- Good or Bad? Let the voice of the people be heard!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Voodoo Boyz wrote:I also plan on buying an Ogre army and dipping that. My goal is to dedicate a weekend to the project and finish it by Monday.
You'll regret it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/11 20:02:14
Subject: Re:Dipping -- Good or Bad? Let the voice of the people be heard!
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Dude. I think dipping is a spectacular idea.
I mean, we've all seen the rudimentary painted minis that just look atrocious. Dip them and watch them skyrocket in appearance!
Take Voodoo's examples in the other thread.
The undipped model is indicative of many armies out there today.
Look at the result after he dips it. WOW!!!
As an aside... Anyone ever try dipping a tank? I know there are all kinds of potential problems with it (tank interior filing with "dip" and never wanting to dry... or dripping forever until empty). I'm just wondering if anyone's tried it.
Eric
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/11 20:10:36
Subject: Re:Dipping -- Good or Bad? Let the voice of the people be heard!
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Vehicles are big enough and rare enough to benefit from more individual attention.
Rather than actually dip a vehicle you could use a dilute wash of stain and wipe most of it off the open flat surfaces like the glacis plate. However this is virtually the same as ink washing so maybe there is no point.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/12 00:58:42
Subject: Dipping -- Good or Bad? Let the voice of the people be heard!
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Manhunter
Eastern PA
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im not against dipping. i use alot of ink washes, but i dont dip.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/12 01:08:02
Subject: Re:Dipping -- Good or Bad? Let the voice of the people be heard!
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Battlefortress Driver with Krusha Wheel
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I am not seeing nearly the improvement voodoo did, I dont know what I am doing wrong, I even painted an ork similar to see if I was not getting results because of highlighting. All it does is make my models shinier. Do only certain polyshades work? I have #340 antique walnut satin. Its frustrating not knowing what I am doing wrong.
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warhammer 40k mmo. If I can drive an ork trukk into the back of a space marine dread and explode in a fireball of epic, I can die happy!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/12 01:11:15
Subject: Re:Dipping -- Good or Bad? Let the voice of the people be heard!
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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Ok, I'm interested and have some dipping questions.
I read that purples and blacks don't look good dipped. Does this mean my black legion army and fantasy Slaanesh Warband (lots of purples in there) will look like crap if I dip them?
But I definitely want to dip my skaven now. I wouldn't mind selling them for a huge chunk of what I paid for them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/12 01:57:11
Subject: Re:Dipping -- Good or Bad? Let the voice of the people be heard!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Long Beach, CA
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What exactly is dipping? I have only ever played horde armies and all of my models are hand painted including:
135+ space orks
190+ Imperial Guardsmen
200+ skaven (25 of which still are not finished)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/12 02:21:39
Subject: Re:Dipping -- Good or Bad? Let the voice of the people be heard!
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
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YOU MUST STIR THE DIP THROROUGHLY BEFORE YOU DIP.
The polyurethane tries to separate out to the top and the stain settles to the bottom if you let it sit. I always stir for between 30-60 seconds before I start dipping figs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2007/12/12 04:18:48
Subject: Re:Dipping -- Good or Bad? Let the voice of the people be heard!
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Krazed Killa Kan
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If people have questions or problems with dipping, or want to see more pics, I put up a thread here in Painting & Modeling.
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