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Ok If you've seen my lists before you know I was about to give up the green skins, but alas I'm a green skin through and though so much so my blood is green. LOL anyway I went to the 'ard boys tourney with an O&G list and did fairly well. This is a 1500 list based on the one I ran...

Black Orc Big boss w/ amulet of Protectyness

Most of my games are against dwarf opponents so I figure having there save would do me good

Black Orc Big boss w/ Bsb morks spirit totem

For any magic, I also face high elfs and VC

23 Orc boyz w/ 2 choppas full command

Snotlings X8

An effective screen from shooting

20 night gobos w/ 2 fanatics

20 night gobos w/ 2 fanatics

"Ouch" nuff said

6 wolf riders w/ musician spears & bows
6 wolf riders w/ musician spears & bows
6 wolf riders w/ musician spears & bows
6 wolf riders w/ musician spears & bows

I've ran them with just spear and with just bows and I've found that I've been in situations that I wish I had both

Goblin spear chucka
Goblin spear chucka
Goblin spear chucka
Goblin spear chucka
Goblin spear chucka
Goblin spear chucka

Cheese I know but effective and I am trying to be competitive

Goblin doom diver

Worth it's weight in gold


total 1499

I'm thinking about droping the amulet of Protectyness and a spear chucka and picking up a gobo shaman but don't know if one dispell die is worth it...what do you think? it would bring my total to 6 dispell die hmm

Ouch ... 6 in 1500? Makes me think I should be painting a terror causing flyer!

HE or VC are going to have about 8-10 power dice at 1500. Neither 5 or 6 will be enough to really stop that kind of magic, so I think you should keep the chukka and do as much damage as you can before everything hits combat. In my match against Tracy's VC dropping units down to half strength or less is what let me beat them with extra combat res.

Dwarves will hate you. Point those chukkas at iron breakers or hammerers and hundreds of points will dissapear each turn if you hit. At this low point level the only thing dwarves can do to stop this kind of long range assault is a gyrocopter.

Meph

Or they could always come in the backfield with miners. Or both...

RZ

I deploy All the way across the board not much chance that is going to happen (miners) also one round of shooting will take down 1.5 gyrocopters at short range

Brother, I'm not going to theory-hammer you. I agree, dwarves won't enjoy marching their way towards all those bolt throwers.

I'm just saying that miners are an option typically available to Dwarves to target warmachines. Meph was saying the *only* thing they had was the Gyro. Miners would be able to go after a couple, depending on how many units and how they come on.

RZ

Your right. minors are a viable threat to me warmachines nuff siad.

Cheers K&K

Goblin shamans are the greatest thing in the world, with the Staff of Sneaky Stealin', you can wreck any Orges players, with there limited power dice taking one away is near fatal. Also the spells on the Little Waaaagh! are much more reliable then big Waaaagh! and since, I find Gobbo's much better, but be careful the miscasts are game breaking, but its the Orc way. Go in expecting everything to go wrong, and hope for somthing to go right, I wouldent have it anyother way.