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Focused Fire Warrior




Rutherglen, Victoria, Australia

Now ive heard my fair share about the necron god that still sleeps under mars, and what ive heard is if the imperium wakes him then he would destroy terra itself, so when do you think he'll finaly wake up if he does at all, would the imperium or every other race would stand a chance against it???

BDA

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Springhurst, VIC, Australia

The only race or two with the power to fight this beast is the orks if united under one warlord (my vote goes to gazkull) or the nids. The rest of us dead, necrons and their god are not to be trifuled with.

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Swift Swooping Hawk






Scotland

If a bunch of Ultramarines could make the newly awakened nightbringer run away then I would imagine that that all the defences in the sol system may make the Void Dragon (if he is on Mars) think twice.



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Rutherglen, Victoria, Australia

id agree, youd think that if all the races in the galaxy's joined together they could blast him to oblivion, but i wouldnt count on that evr happening.

BDA

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Maybe all the races in the galaxy could get together and retcon them right out of existence?

That would be nice!

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Horrific Hive Tyrant





London (work) / Pompey (live, from time to time)

great, so an IG would like to run towards a god, with a S3 gun, with daemons on his left and nids on his right?
i think he may run he other way
some armies dont ally, orks may do, but would probly turn on them afterwards.
nids have no real mind except killing, as do daemons.
and chaos and marine, not gunna happen

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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander






germany,bavaria

IF a c'tan is on mars,why should it attack the Imperium?

Usurp control over the mechanicum,spread out with the tech priests in the galaxy and get all it wants.

Take over the Imperium = get endless food / worshippers / rule the galaxy undisputed.

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London (work) / Pompey (live, from time to time)

the Waaaaaghhh! will stop them
dont collect orks, but in terms of numbers i think orks are the most numerous, and they would be fighting for some great jalopy parts!

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1hadhq wrote:IF a c'tan is on mars,why should it attack the Imperium?

Usurp control over the mechanicum,spread out with the tech priests in the galaxy and get all it wants.

Take over the Imperium = get endless food / worshippers / rule the galaxy undisputed.

That's a good point. Even the Nightbringer didn't just want to indiscriminately slaughter everything - as 1hadhq says, it essentially wanted food/worshipers/etc. No reason why the Dragon wouldn't be different.

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germany,bavaria

JD21290 wrote:the Waaaaaghhh! will stop them
dont collect orks, but in terms of numbers i think orks are the most numerous, and they would be fighting for some great jalopy parts!

A fully operative C'Tan will annihilate every Waaaghboss he can find.
No waaagh => numbers not useful.

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London (work) / Pompey (live, from time to time)

hq, how do you know this?
any fluff, evidence to back it up?

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germany,bavaria

The curiosity and ritualization of Tech in the imperium of man,shields humanity against necron infiltrators.

What would happen if a C'tan offers to repair the "golden throne" and bring the Emperor back?
Are we sure noone could accept this deal? really?


I believe the "age of strife" was started by a C'tan.

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London (work) / Pompey (live, from time to time)

the primarches that survived the heresy wouldnt allow a newly risen god to repair the golden throne.
thats like taking a fex out to a movie, common sense.

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germany,bavaria

JD21290 wrote:hq, how do you know this?
any fluff, evidence to back it up?

Get a necron dex and look into it.

Some of the Toys for necrons in the rumor-thread are already in their existing dex.
When the fluff follows the line of what we know of the C'tan even with a new dex (in the future),
the necrons may be "online and active" with most of their variants.
But the C'Tan are shown as weak variants of their true awesome power.

Maybe we get more with a dex.One of the rumors: C'tan get moved from 40k to apocalypse

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germany,bavaria

JD21290 wrote:the primarches that survived the heresy wouldnt allow a newly risen god to repair the golden throne.
thats like taking a fex out to a movie, common sense.

Common sense involving Primarchs not active in 40k?
The only guard to disagree anyone to see the emperor are his custodes.
They can and have even Primarchs denied entry to the throne room.
But if the custodes agree,no far away primarch can stop this.

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The Netherlands

The Void Dragon (=name of the C'tan on Mars) awakes --> hungry after millenia of sleep --> eats the sun --> Terra + Mars die --> Imperium falls appart --> A lot of small cival wars of still loyal marines/ig VS Commanders dreaming of their own empires --> Nothing to holdback the Orks/tyranids anymore --> New Black Crusade 'cause the defenders are to busy fighting themselfs --> Tau start the 4th (and maybe 5th) Expansion --> More Necrons awaken --> Eldar fallback to the Craftworlds, craftworlds get together to form a super stronghold (only way to survive onless they immediatly get killed) --> Dark Eldar keep on doing random raids --> ???

To make a long story short (or longer):
1/2 of the Imperium is absorbed by Tyranids who are fightin awakened Necrons (flesh VS machine)
The Eye of Terror grows with the destruction of Cadia and borders our Solar System, wich is taken over by the Void Dragon and his minions who obviously have created something to stop the EoT to grow even more. (chaos VS machine)
The Tau (now a large Empire with billions of ex-Imperium soldiers and civilians) continu to fight against the Nids & Orks.
The Old Imperium, under leadership of Roboute Guillman and friends (inquisitors/a couple of IG) (only true loyal group in the Imperium)
The New Imperium, millions of little empires of Planetary Gouverments.
Orks are still everywhere fighting (even eachother), Gazkull is the boss of Armageddon and has a huge united ork Waaagh! but other smaller ork Waaagh's! still exist.
(Eldar if they are still alive, have withdrawn to some corner of the universe)
Necron are everywhere! The largest group is on near Terra, and everywhere are splintergroups of Necrons fighting of ex-Imperium soldiers, orks, 'nids & Tau.

The more things change, the more they stay the same

If you ask me, the game woulde change to much
   
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No, the Tau will be eaten by the Tyranids. There's no way they're surviving a Tyranid invasion.

 
   
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The Netherlands

Bob the Hobo wrote:No, the Tau will be eaten by the Tyranids. There's no way they're surviving a Tyranid invasion.


The Tau are allready surrounded by Tyranids. Orks and Humans only live in and arround the Damucles Golf. So they are doing fine against 'nids. Their Navy tactics are almost the same, so even there they can't really lose against them.

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germany,bavaria

Voron79 wrote:The Void Dragon (=name of the C'tan on Mars) awakes --> hungry after millenia of sleep --> tries to eat the sun --> Terra + Mars shoot the ctan apart --> Imperium gets frustrated about the xenos insolence--> still loyal marines/IG Commanders start a anti-xenos crusade--> No Orks/tyranids anymore -->Traitors get jealous about the loyalists efforts and
start a war against their patrons --> Tau start the 4th Expansion,nerf anyone with "greater good" and get exterminated by a
combined Imperium/Traitor/eldar force --> More Necrons awaken --> Eldar fallback to the Craftworlds,bored about the eternal war --> Dark Eldar keep on doing random raids -->

To make a long story longer

1/20 of the Imperium is sent by Ordo Xenos to watch over tomb worlds to prepare for awakened Necrons
The Eye of Terror gets closed for repairs for the next 40k years
The Tau (now a small smokin ruined planet) continue to die from orbital bombardment since the emperor declared tau as
useful Target for the imperial fleet to practice.
The Imperium, under leadership of Teh Spase Emporer stands unbeaten for eternity.
Gazkull's head is the trophy at yarricks bookshelf on Armageddon
Eldar if they are still alive, have withdrawn to some corner of the universe
Necron are everywhere! They pop up even in commoragh,DE try their best to harm them,but pain is not installed in necron brains
and so the DE get "erased by gauss-weapons" .

Why you ask me, the game will change much in 6th ED


No way IG could loose. We have the MIGHTY lasgun on our side.

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Oakland, CA -- U.S.A.

Brother Bartius wrote:If a single Ultramarine would try to make the newly awakened nightbringer run away then I would imagine that that all the defences in the sol system may make the Void Dragon (if he is on Mars) think twice and then just die of . . . HUURRAAH!!!


Sorry had to edit that to go along with fluff.


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Focused Fire Warrior




Rutherglen, Victoria, Australia

Just because IG have the lasgun dont really mean much, as people would know that 99% of the eldar race got wiped out in one single bang, says something, that even a superior race, can die.

BDA

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Mandeville, Louisiana

Crazy spur of moment idea.

Emperor devours souls of thousands of psykers monthly to survive.

C'tan devours souls as an alternate( and much tastier) source of sustanence over star matter.

What if the "Emperor" that the psykers are fed too is actually a C'tan on Earth, and not on Mars? Only the Custodes see the Emperor, maybe they are actually crons of some kind? If that were the case, this particular C'tan would not need to destabilize the Imperium. Maybe, in fact, this C'tan is actively preventing the Imperium from advancing, and thusly preventing the Emperor from being revived, as this would stabilize and accelerate man's accendance as a psychic race. By guiding the belief structure of the Imperium into such a state the the status quo of the "Golden Throne Bound Emperor" is never changed or challenged, it sets itself up to be sustained indefinetely, in a sinister symbiotic relationship with mankind.



Sounds like the Deciever to me.

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The biggest threat the dragon poses is that half of the tech priest might side with him immediately on his awaking. The Sol system is the most defended place in the galaxy and the dragon would be fairly off balance – remember the C’tan choose obscure backwater planets for their hibernation. He won’t be expecting a trillion strong technologically advance empire staring back at him. Plus one vortex grenade is all it takes.

   
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Railguns wrote:Crazy spur of moment idea.

Emperor devours souls of thousands of psykers monthly to survive.

C'tan devours souls as an alternate( and much tastier) source of sustanence over star matter.

What if the "Emperor" that the psykers are fed too is actually a C'tan on Earth, and not on Mars? Only the Custodes see the Emperor, maybe they are actually crons of some kind? If that were the case, this particular C'tan would not need to destabilize the Imperium. Maybe, in fact, this C'tan is actively preventing the Imperium from advancing, and thusly preventing the Emperor from being revived, as this would stabilize and accelerate man's accendance as a psychic race. By guiding the belief structure of the Imperium into such a state the the status quo of the "Golden Throne Bound Emperor" is never changed or challenged, it sets itself up to be sustained indefinetely, in a sinister symbiotic relationship with mankind.

Sounds like the Deciever to me.


That actually sounds like a pretty interesting theory!
   
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Cackling Chaos Conscript




Victoria,Australia

i read in some fluff that the deceiver was posing as the laughing god of the eldar and that would take a lot o time and effort so maybe
if it really was a C'tan posing as the emperor it could be The Outsider O_O

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The Emperor himself the Void Dragon? Could be, but it is known that he is born +/- 7000bc in Turkey. And he tried to tell people he wasn't a God. He created the Primarchs from his DNA and C'tan are pure energie. And you got the war between the followers of the Emperor and Mars.

So I don't think the Emperor is a C'tan or is under control of one.

The Deceiver and the Laughing God are two diffrent Gods. The Laughing God Captured the Outsider and told him to eat other C'tan wich drove the Outsider insane. The Deceiver also ate other C'tan but became stronger and is still sane.
The Laughing God is created by the beliefs of the Eldar Race, so he lives in the Warp. The Deceiver is an being of Energy that lives in the ordinary universe and hates the Warp.

The outsider is captured by the Harlequins and the Laughing God. But some people say that he lives on T'au and that's why the Tau quickly advanced. This could be true, just look at Commander Farsight and his Necron weapon (maybe he is the only one who knows the truth and that is the reason he betrayed the Tau Empire)
   
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necron weapon? Do you mean the sword?
Where do you get that from?

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1hadhq wrote:No way IG could lose. We have the MIGHTY lasgun on our side.


Hoo-rah, sarge!

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fireball900 wrote:necron weapon? Do you mean the sword?
Where do you get that from?


Because he found his weapon on a Dead World (Arthas-Moloch) It is near Tau space, so a demonic weapon is illogical (because Tau are greatly imune against chaos). It could also be an Eldar weapon, 'cause an Eldar GOd made a sword called Dawnlight, and Farsight's sword is called Dawn.

But there are also some other texts who give a discription of how he found it. (Etereals die on that planet, blade flickers with unknown energie).

And being 300 years old is kind of imposible without any help
   
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Victoria,Australia

maybe the void dragon being on mars is a ploy by the imperium to lure the necrons into their space so they can massacre the necrons
and the void dragon was destroyed long ago O_O

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