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"Tigurius has recently turned his talents to divining the threat of the Tyranids. His predictions about their movements have been so accurate that it would appear he has tapped into the Tyranid Hive Mind- a feat that has driven lesser individuals quite mad. If this is true then Tigurius will have proved himself the most powerful psyker in the Imperium."

Thats a mighty bold statement there. Especially considering that the Emperor himself is a psyker. All they had to do was claim that Tigurius was the most powerful 'living' psyker in the Imperium and possibly the powers that be would overlook this little slip of the tongue.

As of right now, the Ultramarines are declared Excommunicate Traitoris! Deploy the Fleet so that nothing gets off the system. Commissar Veers, prepare your men!

I knew it! The prettier they are, the funnier the fall.

At last a reason to destory the ultramarines!

You need a reason to want to destroy the ultimate group of "bros"?

Pook wrote:You need a reason to want to destroy the ultimate group of "bros"?

but ... but ... deadshane has a reason
get on with it. no more hurr for the blue boys

Deadshane1 wrote: Deploy the Fleet so that nothing gets off the system. Commissar Veers, prepare your men!

hehe, brilliant, just thinking the same thing...

Inquistitor "boba" Fhet : "They're no good to me dead"

You know, there really is a guy named "Mojarn Piet" in the 40K universe. He's in the original Book of the Astonomican.

Uh, the Emperor isn't a psyker. Psykers are witches, mutants, deviants, and barely tolerated scum. The Emperor is God.

Nurglitch wrote:Uh, the Emperor isn't a psyker. Psykers are witches, mutants, deviants, and barely tolerated scum. The Emperor is God.

This monster you call the Emperor is actually a C'tan. He is in charge of fattening up the Orks on Human meat so that the Necrons can devour them buffet style. Don't bother fighting, just stuff your pockets for chili pepers and grilled onions and accept the inevitable.

What if it's true though? Maybe the Spase Emporer IS dead! But that means no Astronomican, so no warp-travel, and the Black Templars are just having delusions and...

TWISTED PARADOX!

Deadshane1 wrote:"Tigurius has recently turned his talents to divining the threat of the Tyranids. His predictions about their movements have been so accurate that it would appear he has tapped into the Tyranid Hive Mind- a feat that has driven lesser individuals quite mad. If this is true then Tigurius will have proved himself the most powerful psyker in the Imperium."

Earlier on the same page it states :

" (Tigurius rewards those who persevere in their interrogations with insight that borders on prescience,) spawned by uncanny hunches and honed through a lifetime's accumulation of knowledge. Little is hidden from the Chief Librarian's sight, and many amongst the Ultramarines believe him to be guided by the Emperor's hand."

The entry goes on to say :

"Tigurius' gift would perhaps be treated with suspicion and perceived as the stigmata of unholy associations, yet none who have witnessed the Chief Librarian in battle can find cause to doubt his allegiance."


In short, his experience and knowledge, combined with his talents and a rumoured psychic boost from the Emperor, go a considerable way to explaining the passage quoted by Deadshane. The second segment I have quoted, concerning his allegiance, would imply that members of the Inquisition have seen him in combat, highly likely considering the Ultramarines frequent engagements against the bugs, and consider his loyalties to be a closed concern.

So if you're a devout christian, its not a sin to say that you're superior to God in some way?

sin in the 40k universe=traitor=DEATH!

Reaper6 wrote:

Deadshane1 wrote:"Tigurius has recently turned his talents to divining the threat of the Tyranids. His predictions about their movements have been so accurate that it would appear he has tapped into the Tyranid Hive Mind- a feat that has driven lesser individuals quite mad. If this is true then Tigurius will have proved himself the most powerful psyker in the Imperium."

Earlier on the same page it states :

" (Tigurius rewards those who persevere in their interrogations with insight that borders on prescience,) spawned by uncanny hunches and honed through a lifetime's accumulation of knowledge. Little is hidden from the Chief Librarian's sight, and many amongst the Ultramarines believe him to be guided by the Emperor's hand."

The entry goes on to say :

"Tigurius' gift would perhaps be treated with suspicion and perceived as the stigmata of unholy associations, yet none who have witnessed the Chief Librarian in battle can find cause to doubt his allegiance."


In short, his experience and knowledge, combined with his talents and a rumoured psychic boost from the Emperor, go a considerable way to explaining the passage quoted by Deadshane. The second segment I have quoted, concerning his allegiance, would imply that members of the Inquisition have seen him in combat, highly likely considering the Ultramarines frequent engagements against the bugs, and consider his loyalties to be a closed concern.

That's probably just an elaborate cover-up for his secret pact with the Tyrannids. They will sacrifice any number of creatures to preserve their ultimate super spy.

The Black Legion wish to formally welcome the Ultramarines to Chaos. And all the advantageous equipment they bring

Don't you know that you have to check all the loyalist legion at the door of the Eye of Terror unless you're playing Apocalypse?

Nurglitch wrote:Uh, the Emperor isn't a psyker. Psykers are witches, mutants, deviants, and barely tolerated scum. The Emperor is God.

Spoken like a Black Tempalr at heart!

Space Marine Librarians are certainly not witches, mutants, deviants, or barely tolerated scum!

Now Ultramarines on the other hand...

Deadshane1 wrote:So if you're a devout christian, its not a sin to say that you're superior to God in some way?

sin in the 40k universe=traitor=DEATH!

I'm pretty sure that Tigurius didn't write that passage in the army list.

SHUT UP all of you, shut up, shut up, shut up....the Ultramarines are the ultimate fighting force, better than all others.....so LEAVE BRITNEY, erm, TIGURIUS Alllonnnee!

can we just kill the ultramarines anyway?

Many have tried, but we're still here.

tell the black templars that the ultramarines are harbouring phykes and think there better than the space emporer
sit back and watch

Deadshane1 wrote:So if you're a devout christian, its not a sin to say that you're superior to God in some way?

sin in the 40k universe=traitor=DEATH!

Who said Tigurius is superior to the Emperor ? I've yet to see such an entry among the quotes in a codex.

Aloof ? Yes, as are most librarians. Seperate from the rank and file ? Certainly. Hard ass with the questioning ? Definately, he believes a warrior should know their own mind before they can fathom the enemy. Superiority complex ? no evidence as yet to suggest his own perspective on his place in the universe other than that of a Marine in the SERVICE OF Chapter , Primarch and Emperor .

Deadshane1 wrote:I'd kill to have a body like yours.....in my trunk.

H.B.M.C.- He's right. You're wrong. DEAL WITH IT!

The Emperor is with us, right? Therefor, you were saying these things to Him, right? Therefor, YOU ARE THE HERETIC! BURN!!!

Pariah Press wrote:

Deadshane1 wrote:So if you're a devout christian, its not a sin to say that you're superior to God in some way?

sin in the 40k universe=traitor=DEATH!

I'm pretty sure that Tigurius didn't write that passage in the army list.

But he did! Mat Ward is Tigurius and JJ is Tzeentch.

I always thought the Ultramarines were just propaganda.

Well, most of our REPUTATION is propaganda. We're actually a 3rd founding chapter, and Macragge is a dust-choked wasteland instead of the utopian paradise extolled in the official history books, and Marneus Calgar never leaves the fortress monastery since he became a quadruple amputee, but yeah, we exist.

Pariah Press wrote: Well, most of our REPUTATION is propaganda. We're actually a 3rd founding chapter, and Macragge is a dust-choked wasteland instead of the utopian paradise extolled in the official history books, and Marneus Calgar never leaves the fortress monastery since he became a quadruple amputee, but yeah, we exist.

Hush now, that's a secret.

And so's the half-eldar psyker.

I wonder if Tigurius gets fan mail....

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Dear Tigurius

I think it was truly awesome how you smited that awful hippy band last week at Glastonbury Festival. I wish I could zap my friends with my fingers like you, though maybe I won't burn them to a crisp as you do. ... etc etc

Yours faithfully
Little Timmy

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On Topic, i think it would be very ironic if it turned out that the Ultramarines were going slightly Chaotic lol

hellsguardian316 wrote:I wonder if Tigurius gets fan mail....

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Dear Tigurius

I think it was truly awesome how you smited that awful hippy band last week at Glastonbury Festival. I wish I could zap my friends with my fingers like you, though maybe I won't burn them to a crisp as you do. ... etc etc

Yours faithfully
Little Timmy

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On Topic, i think it would be very ironic if it turned out that the Ultramarines were going slightly Chaotic lol

GW taint the Ultramarines ? I think there's more chance of Tony Blair becoming a TV Evangelist.

No way, Tigurius doesn't get fan mail, he gets Dear Tigurius letters... you know stuff like...

Dear Tigurius,

My father-in-law is the Patriarch of the local Genestealer cult. What's the best way to avoid giving him an invitation to Thanksgiving (To the Emperor) Day dinner?

Faithfully yours,
Wife, Its What's For Dinner.