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I am making a loyalist Lunawolf army what do you think fluff wise

Hey with your vote if you want to please post your reasons ond also i call my army the lost sons or luna wolves

Caps Lock Crusaders are better

Sure, why not? Just make them follow the vanilla SM codex. Come up with a cool story, and I doubt you'll have any problems.

Kinda reminds me of the Pre-Hersey World Eaters that I built then sold when the new codex cameout and they took away chainax's SR.

My fluff was that the splinter group were a loyal section of the World Eaters that the Horus feared wouldnt join them. So he dispatched them to deal with a rebellion in a far away sector. In mid warp one of the ships warp reactor was sabatoged by a rogue Tech Priest in the hopes that it would destroy the fleet mid jump. However all didnt go as planned and when the ships reactor blew it tore a hole in space and time sucking the fleet into it and transporting it instantly to present day time.

Nofasse 'Eadhunta wrote:Caps Lock Crusaders are better

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ixlar wrote:Sure, why not? Just make them follow the vanilla SM codex. Come up with a cool story, and I doubt you'll have any problems.

what is the vannila space marine codex i have heard that alot and thanks for voting

The vanilla SM codex is the one that isn't chapter-specific (for example, Dark Angels are not vanilla because their codex only deals with them).

One of the loyalist Luna Wolf captains helped found the Grey Knights.

Cheese Elemental wrote:One of the loyalist Luna Wolf captains helped found the Grey Knights.

Nice....didn't know that.

Or it might have been the Daemonhunters in general. A few other loyalists from the Chaos Legions helped... Nathaniel Garro from the Death Guard was one of them, I think.

Is this covered in the Horus Heresy books? Or is it covered in the Grey Knight book?

ixlar wrote:

Cheese Elemental wrote:One of the loyalist Luna Wolf captains helped found the Grey Knights.

Nice....didn't know that.

Its was the captain of the 3rd company Iacton Qruze

It was more implied than covered, but I drew the same conclusion from the book "Flight of the Eisenstein".

Kogwar wrote:

Nofasse 'Eadhunta wrote:Caps Lock Crusaders are better

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LOOKED AT YOUR THREAD TITLE RECENTLY!

Sorry.

Yes and Yes.

The 40k universe is so big, anything can happen. Just make up a good backstory

The story is that the storem of the emporers wraith woke up the hibernating loyalist(they went int a coma/hibernation to heal there wounds) they awoke and left for the warp where they strayed into the eye of terror there they fought off deamons for years until they ran into the legion of the damned and made an aliance there goal is to redeam them selves to the emoprer and with the help of the captain who helped found the deamon hunters became an unoficial chapter in the dark founding but to do so they must speak withthe emporer. So to them he granted a death queast first they have to gain the trust pf every chapter and 2nd they must help in the most dangerous of wars with Loken, vipus and tarvits at there lead they go on there never ending crusade to redeem the legions. FOR THE EMPORER!

Luna wolves -> sons of horus -> black legion. Evil as frak, no dice for an entire post heresy army. A preheresy one though...

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Thanks.

No, fluff wise they all changed their names to the Sons of Horus even pre-heresy.
So, even if you did make them, (You could probably make up a cool backstory) they would be Sons of Horus and even then only Pre-heresy. Otherwise they would be Black Legion peeps.

Or am i completley wrong??

I'm pretty sure that they wouldn't want to be asociated (spelling?) with Horus after the whole 'try to kill the Emporer' thing.

Xanthos552 wrote:No, fluff wise they all changed their names to the Sons of Horus even pre-heresy.
So, even if you did make them, (You could probably make up a cool backstory) they would be Sons of Horus and even then only Pre-heresy. Otherwise they would be Black Legion peeps.

Or am i completley wrong??

Yes you are.

The loyal part of the Luna wolves would drop such name as "sons of horus" and IIRC this had happened too.
So return to their original "Luna Wolves" name is the way to go.

As those loyal SM are opposed to abbys black losers, why should they be "black legion" members?

I think that the existence of the warp makes this easy. Since the warp allows for time travel, you can say that surviving loyal Luna Wolves were trying to go (anywhere). Used the warp, and boom, they appeared in the current time. You could say that they were brought to current times to help bring redemption to the empire, and save the Emperor.

That is just an easy example of a basic story you could come up with that fits into all the fluff. But as was previously stated, loyal Luna Wolves dropped Sons of Horus because of what Horus represents.

Qruze repainted his armor in the Luna Wolves colors (at the end of Eisenstein). I think it's a great theme army, and hope you pull it off well.

I'd think about having the veteran core be Terrans that were in the Legion prior to Horus' discovery. As seen with Captain Garro in Flight of the Eisensten, I think the Terrans had a different outlook than marines recruited from the homeworld after the Primarch was located. Most of the Terrans fought alongside the Emperor, some were personally decorated by him, and I think they all had more loyalty to the Emperor than their Primarchs. While Garro certainly reverred Mortarion, he also showed that he was ultimately loyal to the Emperor, not his Primarch. Where, the recruits from Mortarion's homeworld had stronger loyalty to the primarch than the Emperor.

Xanthos552 wrote:No, fluff wise they all changed their names to the Sons of Horus even pre-heresy.
So, even if you did make them, (You could probably make up a cool backstory) they would be Sons of Horus and even then only Pre-heresy. Otherwise they would be Black Legion peeps.

Or am i completley wrong??

No in galexy in flames the loyalists remounsed the name sons of horus for the name luna wolves

Kogwar wrote:The story is that the storm of the emporers wraith woke up the hibernating loyalist(they went int0 a coma/hibernation to heal there wounds) they awoke and left for the warp where they strayed into the eye of terror there they fought off deamons for years until they ran into the legion of the damned and made an aliance there goal is to redeam them selves to the emoprer and with the help of the captain who helped found the deamon hunters became an unoficial chapter in the dark founding but to do so they must speak withthe emporer. So to them he granted a death queast first they have to gain the trust of every chapter and 2nd they must help in the most dangerous of wars with Loken, vipus and tarvits at there lead they go on there never ending crusade to redeem the legions. FOR THE EMPORER!

yakface wrote:
I changed your subject title to both make it actually explain what your thread is about and to remove the cap lock, which is akin to shouting on a forum.

Please do not post thread titles (or posts) with all caps or your threads will be deleted in the future.


Thanks.

Thanks for the help the caps was an acsident and the whole deal with this army is the survivors of Isstvan coming to geather under the name the lost sons or luna wolves as one group to redeem there legions that is why i mention Saul Tarvits in the fluff so it consits of soem world eaters as the assault marines emporers children as the devistators and the luna wolves as the tactical. Thanks for the help i like seeing admins sao involved with the forum.
I made sure i had all of my info strait before making the fluff i read lexicanum alot and the first 3 horus haresy book and found a plasable time for this to happen, this army really happend because i ador Loken(He is stil alive no matter what you all say) and the legion of the damned/ the luna wolves