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2009/10/01 08:15:20
Subject: I didn't get it :)
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Fresh-Faced New User
istanbul
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Excuse me if I look lame or stuff but it is not that I am lame and whining, I am noob and can't figure out
I just bought my 5500 points spacemarines army and I will continue to buy more but I became frustrated to see that my army has lame units and my Uber Million Dollar, super trained, godly tactical squad space marines don't have a stick in their hands to make a good close combat
When I first prepared to buy my army I was thinking of tyranids, but a close friend of mine strongly suggested me not to do so (Don't know why) and I changed my mind to space marines. I was gathering my options and decided to build a custom chapter using black templar rules but again another close friend pleaded me to play ultramarines as they looked awesome (for him). And I have choosen Ultramarines and bought 1 of nearly everything .
First I saw the Vanguard veterans "AWESOME!!!". Then I found that fitting them with jump packs made them Near-Terminator expensive, flying meatballs. They only have 1 extra attack than assault marines yet 2 times expensive. 5 models, 22£....
Then I saw the legion of damned "AWESOME!!!". Then I found that they are normal marines with invuln. saves and 2 times expensive. Leave it.Then I saw devastator squads "AWESOME!!!" Then I found that even tactial squads buy heavy weapons cheaper and I saw Longfangs with cheaper weapons. A 10 men devastator squad with NO heavy weapons have the same point cost with a 10 men long fang squad with 2 missile launchers and 2 heavy bolters who can fire each group seperatly.
Yeah I have more choices but they are not cheaper than others .
Don't get me wrong I am still happy with my smurfs. I love the honour guard (it would be better to have an apothecary with them :( ), I love to paint the shining gold near that blue. I think I just don't understand . Give me an apothecary with my honour guard and I will die happy
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2009/10/01 08:18:21
Subject: I didn't get it :)
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Renegade Inquisitor with a Bound Daemon
Tied and gagged in the back of your car
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This is why you actually do some research before you buy a 5500 army.
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2009/10/01 08:32:31
Subject: Re:I didn't get it :)
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Oberleutnant
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I might be wrong, but don't all tactical Marines now come with a bolt pistol and close combat weapon as part of their standard armament?
Mick
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Digitus Impudicus!
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2009/10/01 08:47:41
Subject: Re:I didn't get it :)
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Focused Fire Warrior
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Mick A wrote:I might be wrong, but don't all tactical Marines now come with a bolt pistol and close combat weapon as part of their standard armament?
Mick
I Know they used to in second edition :-/
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I Play
I am thinking of starting Freebooterz
Currently working on Rainbow Warriors Epic Scale check it out here! |
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2009/10/01 08:52:54
Subject: Re:I didn't get it :)
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Grovelin' Grot
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Actually,
IIRC that a tactical marine have a bolter and a bolter pistol (so you can shoot at 12'' and still assault) but no CC weapon other than the pistol itself.
Anyway, probably they suck in CC because they aren't meant for CC, just shoot your opponent down with bolters, flamers rocket launchers and then CC with assault squad, for example...
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2009/10/01 10:20:02
Subject: Re:I didn't get it :)
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Angry Chaos Agitator
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Obsidian wrote:Mick A wrote:I might be wrong, but don't all tactical Marines now come with a bolt pistol and close combat weapon as part of their standard armament?
Mick
I Know they used to in second edition :-/
The two guys from the gentlemens club again...how ya guys doin??
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2009/10/01 10:36:57
Subject: Re:I didn't get it :)
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Oberleutnant
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My mistake, still thinking of when Marines automatically had a knife...
Hey Renegade, still thinking of the old days and battles...
Mick
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Digitus Impudicus!
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2009/10/01 10:55:03
Subject: I didn't get it :)
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Focused Fire Warrior
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Your right Mick A. In the rules it said every one who was a combatant was assumed to be carrying knife/hand Weapon and it didn't necessarily have to motion it on the unit description, so knife and bolt pistol two CC weapons. That’s what made them tactical they could hit you with mild heavy weapons fire and hold their own in CC! The only people who were assumed to not be armed with hand weapons were civilians if you wanted to include them for some reason? Aahh the old days.... Hi Renegade Currntly skiving at work to write this comment. Skive Hard, Play Hard!!
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2009/10/01 11:02:02
I Play
I am thinking of starting Freebooterz
Currently working on Rainbow Warriors Epic Scale check it out here! |
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2009/10/01 11:02:51
Subject: I didn't get it :)
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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What about Sternguard?
Aussault termies?
A dredie?
There are plenty of options out there, quit complaining...
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers" |
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2009/10/01 11:45:19
Subject: I didn't get it :)
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Sinister Chaos Marine
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You should really have a word with that friend who advised you to go Marines instead of Tyranids (first mistake) and then reject your custom ideas in favor of Ultramarines (I don't hate them like some people do, but I think homemade is still better if done well). You really should.
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Space_Potato wrote:Just Dave wrote:Simple Question Really, how do you think things would be different if Guilliman hadn't created the Codex Astartes?
Rape and pillage! Orks roaming the countryside, raping our churches and burning our women! |
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2009/10/01 12:19:11
Subject: Re:I didn't get it :)
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
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Welcome to the hobby. You're well on your way to becoming a proper GW hater.
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2009/10/01 16:49:00
Subject: Re:I didn't get it :)
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Sneaky Kommando
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I think the main issue is that your friends are not always correct. YOU need to choose what army to play, especially if you are going to purchase a full 5500pts. worth of any army. I would have looked at all your options of the different types of armies that are available. If you wanted to play 'Nids, play 'Nids. Don't let your fiends make your decisions for you.
Eventhough they are your friends does not mean all their intentions are honorable. They may not wanted to play against 'Nids, so they tried to pull you away from them, especially since there is a new codex coming out.
...all else fails go Orks
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M: "You are the universe, alpha and omega, the beast with a thousand young, do what thou whilt shall be the whole of the law. NOW GO FORTH AND MUTILATE!!"
"Samus. That's the only name you'll hear. Samus. It means the end and the Death. Samus. I am Samus. Samus is all around you. Samus is the man beside you. Samus will gnaw upon your bones. Look out! Samus is here."
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2009/10/01 17:35:50
Subject: I didn't get it :)
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Lethal Lhamean
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My friend told me to jump off a bridge and I did then I became paralised boohoo bridges suck..
Lol at op
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2009/10/01 18:23:24
Subject: Re:I didn't get it :)
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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I wonder if the OP goes "baaaaah" too.
Though I cant say they were completely wrong steering you away from nids, they do suck right now.
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Tyranids
Chaos Space Marines
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2009/10/01 18:51:16
Subject: Re:I didn't get it :)
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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At least you live in the UK, GW stuff is more expensive in the US. Its not all bad. and if you wanna paint a custom chapter, get to it. its not hard to paint over stuff
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2009/10/02 18:31:34
Subject: Re:I didn't get it :)
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Sniping Hexa
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Give me an apothecary with my honour guard and I will die happy
I feel your pain mate, also some more options for them and maybe a 6+ in save? Then I would never stop using them
As for main thing, I also believe you should have done some research before forking out on 5500 points of marines! (I have 6500 pts and it took me 5 years to build up!)
But really its not the end of the world, if you can make your army into a codex battle company you will be able to feel good in fluff terms and its great fun for apoc battles. You can do allot with 5500pts of smurfs! :p
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Inquisitor_Syphonious wrote:All I can say is... thank you vodo40k...
Zweischneid wrote:No way man. A Space Marine in itself is scary. But a Marine WITHOUT helmet wears at least 3-times as much plot-armour as a Marine with helmet. And heaven forbid if the Marine would also happen to have an intimidating looking, vertical scar. Then you're surly boned. Those guys are the worst. Not a chance I'd say.
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2009/10/03 19:37:32
Subject: Re:I didn't get it :)
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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Mick A wrote:My mistake, still thinking of when Marines automatically had a knife...
Hey Renegade, still thinking of the old days and battles...
Mick
Don't worry you can switch the bolter for a chain sword for free.
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2009/10/03 20:22:04
Subject: Re:I didn't get it :)
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Krazy Grot Kutta Driva
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penut the butter wrote:Mick A wrote:My mistake, still thinking of when Marines automatically had a knife...
Hey Renegade, still thinking of the old days and battles...
Mick
Don't worry you can switch the bolter for a chain sword for free.
Umm I don't think so *leafs through codex.
Nope only the sergeant.
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2009/10/04 04:24:31
Subject: I didn't get it :)
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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Ah your right.My mistake.
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2009/10/05 09:24:53
Subject: I didn't get it :)
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Fresh-Faced New User
istanbul
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Thanks people. Some people didnt get that I am not whining. It was just a noobs moment of lack of knowledge + the desire to become number-1 . Never been a nobb, of course you have
As I said actually I love my smurfs. I just wanted to use more CC or something like that. May be the new SW codex looked stronger to my noob eyes and needed enlightment .
Now I got it. I love blue+gold thats it
Thanks you all
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