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2009/12/08 14:54:21
Subject: What the ?
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Confident Halberdier
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Hey i bought eldar codex recently and i notice some the ranges for some the weapons are G36 on a few any one mind tellling me what that means?
I herd many diffrent things at my flgs so i need my facts straight.
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This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2009/12/08 15:37:39
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2009/12/08 14:56:45
Subject: Re:wat the ?
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Lady of the Lake
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Old rule from 4th. It meant that you had to guess the range, as they were for barrages, but the maximum range was the number. Now they're just barrage weapons and you don't have to guess anymore.
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2009/12/08 14:59:06
Subject: Re:wat the ?
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Confident Halberdier
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Well since 5th ed the current rule set i just measure out 36? Just making sure im understanding what n0t_u said.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2009/12/08 14:59:46
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2009/12/08 15:03:14
Subject: Re:wat the ?
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Lady of the Lake
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Yep, it's just a 36 range barrage weapon now. But, like most of the other weapons you choose what to shoot at first. It can be fired indirrectly and ignore LoS blocking terrain as well. I guess just reading the barrage weapons part in the rulebook will answer any other questions on how it works 
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2009/12/08 15:07:43
Subject: Re:wat the ?
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Confident Halberdier
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im familar with barrage rules i have IG basilisk.
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2009/12/08 16:17:29
Subject: Re:What the ?
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Angered Reaver Arena Champion
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Essentially all the "G" means is that the weapon has the Barrage type. It held other meanings in past editions, but in 5th that is all it denotes.
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2009/12/08 22:45:58
Subject: Re:wat the ?
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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n0t_u wrote:Old rule from 4th. It meant that you had to guess the range, as they were for barrages, but the maximum range was the number. Now they're just barrage weapons and you don't have to guess anymore.
Actually the guessing was in 2nd/early 3rd. 4th got rid of it too.
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2009/12/08 23:16:25
Subject: Re:wat the ?
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Lordhat wrote:
Actually the guessing was in 2nd/early 3rd. 4th got rid of it too.
No, it didn't. In 4th you guessed the range, measured out that far to see where the template landed, then scattered. It didn't actually matter where your target was, technically, unless it was out of range entirely.
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2009/12/09 00:08:33
Subject: What the ?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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No, you did not EVER do that in 4th ed, you are mistaken.
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2009/12/09 00:15:26
Subject: What the ?
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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That was 3rd ed.
4th they removed the actual "guess" aspect.
You placed the template, then measured the range and then scattered. If it was placed out of range, it missed automatically. If it was placed inside range it scattered - and was allowed to scatter out of range.
While you still guess the range (in that you are estimating the range when you place the template) but unlike WHFB, you don't have to vocalise it to your opponent ("39 inches in this direction.").
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2009/12/09 02:49:58
Subject: Re:wat the ?
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BeRzErKeR wrote:Lordhat wrote:
Actually the guessing was in 2nd/early 3rd. 4th got rid of it too.
No, it didn't. In 4th you guessed the range, measured out that far to see where the template landed, then scattered. It didn't actually matter where your target was, technically, unless it was out of range entirely.
Just to chime in, the edition that you're thinking of is '3rd.'
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2009/12/09 09:16:22
Subject: Re:What the ?
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Lady of the Lake
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Really? I started in 4th and that came up a few times.
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2009/12/09 09:26:46
Subject: What the ?
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Then you were playing it wrong, they removed the Guess from G weapons in 4th edition.
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2009/12/09 11:10:49
Subject: What the ?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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chromedog wrote:That was 3rd ed.
4th they removed the actual "guess" aspect.
You placed the template, then measured the range and then scattered. If it was placed out of range, it missed automatically. If it was placed inside range it scattered - and was allowed to scatter out of range.
While you still guess the range (in that you are estimating the range when you place the template) but unlike WHFB, you don't have to vocalise it to your opponent ("39 inches in this direction.").
Actually in 4th, as now, you nominated your target, measured to the front of the unit to see if it was in range and THEN placed the blast marker - this allowed you to place the blast marker beyond the range you just measured, however you then measured again to make sure it was still in range. In theory you could be stupid enough to place the marker beyond the maximum range, in which case it would automatically miss, however I dont know anyone who ever actually managed to do that....
In 3rd we had fun with guessing, including playing huge mega games with basilisk batteries. A friend of mine was, and still is, capable of guessing to 1/4" at a range of over 180".....
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