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Prince George BC Canada

So i'm rather new to fantasy it's never played at my local store and I have only played 1k games twice. If you guys could help me that would be great. How can I make this list better?

1998 Total Points

Prince 637 pts
-Star Lance
-Dragon Armour
-Longbow
-Shield
-Vambraces of Defense
-Star Dragon

Mage 185 pts
-level 2
-The Staff of Solidity
-Dispel Scroll
-Silver Wand

Caradryan 175pts

15 Spearmen 160 pts
-Full Command
-Lion Standard

16 Spearmen 160 pts
-Full Command
-Lion Standard

15 Pheonix Guard 320 pts
-Full Command
-Keeper of the Flame w/ Amulet of Light
-Lion Standard

10 Shadow Warriors 160 pts

7 Shadow Warriors 80 pts

Repeater Bolt Thrower 100 pts

Repeater Bolt Thrower 100 pts

Repeater Bolt Thrower 100 pts

Repeater Bolt Thrower 100 pts


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Nurgleboy77 wrote "Callum officially WINS!" 
   
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Well, let's see. Off the cuff: First, you cannot duplicate magic items, so only one unit can have the lion standard. The other thing I can think of is that spear men are not that powerful. 3 ranks stabbing seems awesome, but they just don't have the power to get through most power units. It depends on what kind of foes you are facing.

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As Gobstomp420 said, you can only take a Magic Item once. So no more then one Lion Standard in the entire army!

Archers are a lot more efficient Core choices, as Spearmen just don't ever seem to do anything. I'd bring 2 units of 10 Archers as your compulsory Core choices.

A single Mage isn't going to be of any use in the Magic Phase. You have only 4 Power Dice. A lot of people have more Dispel Dice then you have Power Dice, so casting anything will become pretty difficult.
If you want to bring a decent Magic Phase, then you need at least 2 level 2 Mages and the Banner of Sorcery (for a total of 6 + D3 Power Dice).
If you just want enough Magic Defense, then your Mage won't need the Level 2 upgrade (as it doesn't give you any additional Dispel Dice) and probably won't need the Staff of Solidity (almost never a good choice) or Silver Wand (only benefits Mages that actually intend to cast Spells).
You always need at least one Dispel Scroll in any army.

Shadow Warriors, imho, just aren't good. Compared to Core Archers:

-More LoS (Skirmishing).
-Better Movement (Skirmishing).
-Harder to hit with ranged weapons (Skirmishing).
-Scouts.
-Same BS and Longbow.
-Have Light Armour.
-Have Hatred.
-Cost 45,45% more per model.

So basically, they are worse then Archers at their most important role (shooting). They can March Block pretty well, but that is it. If you want a March Blocker that contributes to your Shooting Phase as well, then it's a toss up between a minimum size unit of Shadow Warriors, or a minimum size unit of Ellyrian Reavers (with Bows).
I would say get some Great Eagles as March Blockers and don't bother with any Shadow Warriors or Ellyrian Reavers, but you have already filled all your Rare choices.
   
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Hmm yeah I need to rethink a lot of the list, Fantasy is brutally hard to make a good list unlike 40k lol

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