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Meanwhile, in the UK, we still await…

Tales of the Walking Dead, Dead City and Daryl Dixon.

This is like being back in the 90’s.

   
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Final trailer for 'The Ones Who Live'



'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

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Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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Still waiting for a legitimate airing of the other spinoffs in the UK :(

   
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‘Walking Dead’ Crossover Reunion for Rick, Michonne, Daryl, Negan and Maggie Is Being Eyed by ‘The Ones Who Live’ Co-Creator - VARIETY

Scott M. Gimple, the co-creator of the new “The Walking Dead” spin-off series “The Ones Who Live,” said he hopes to be able to reunite beloved franchise characters like Rick Grimes (Andrew Lincoln), Michonne (Danai Gurira), Daryl Dixon (Norman Reedus), Negan Smith (Jeffrey Dean Morgan) and Maggie Rhee (Lauren Cohan) in an epic series crossover.

“There are so many things with this universe that I plan and put together, but I also know that God laughs, and you have to pivot to something else,” Gimple said. “I absolutely have been working towards that and hoping towards that, but we’ll see what happens. It might be a version of it that no one expects.”

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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Florence, KY

Super Bowl Halftime Preview Special



'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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So I'm a few years late jumping on the bandwagon, but just started in on the original series. Watched the World Beyond on Amazon a while back, and that was rubbish, but really enjoying this one so far... Although series two was brutal.

A couple episodes into series 3, and I do have to ask (as I don't want to go back through the thread, to avoid spoilers) does 'Nice' Rick come back at some point, or is it Increasingly Poo-head Rick from here on in?

 
   
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The trauma is a strong thread.

Be aware that going forward, its quality becomes really quite inconsistent. Not just season to season, but episode to episode. That being said, it’s still superior TV throughout.

However, it does find solid footing from Season 9 onwards which are my favourite seasons,

   
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Don't get me wrong, the trauma is appropriate and is a large part of what grounds the show. Too many of these sorts of shows have everyone, after an initial reaction, largely sailing through it like there's nothing wrong.

I also like the fact that after the chaos of season two it's really managed to create the feeling that nobody is safe.

My problem is more that the show needs to keep a threshold of likeable characters to keep me interested.

 
   
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 insaniak wrote:
So I'm a few years late jumping on the bandwagon, but just started in on the original series. Watched the World Beyond on Amazon a while back, and that was rubbish, but really enjoying this one so far... Although series two was brutal.

A couple episodes into series 3, and I do have to ask (as I don't want to go back through the thread, to avoid spoilers) does 'Nice' Rick come back at some point, or is it Increasingly Poo-head Rick from here on in?


He....goes back and forth. A lot...

 
   
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But not exactly without cause, to be fair.

   
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 KamikazeCanuck wrote:

He....goes back and forth. A lot...

I can live with that.

Looks like a few new characters wandering in as well, so that will help.

I also like that Carl's a bit less bratty in this season. Again, it was appropriate to the story, just not fun to watch...

 
   
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 insaniak wrote:
I also like that Carl's a bit less bratty in this season. Again, it was appropriate to the story, just not fun to watch...

He grows up quite a bit in the later seasons.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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He's had a lot of growth even just between season 2 and 3. I'm actually really impressed so far both with the writing of Carl as a character, and the acting chops of the kid playing him.

 
   
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I got as far as Season 6 years ago before I lost patience with it and gave up. I decided to try again fairly recently and watch it all through and I've got to Season 7 and then lost patience again. I wanted to watch some of the stuff with Khary Payton but I've lost interest with all the Negan stuff.

Has anyone seen the show about Daryl in France? I'm sort of fascinated by that.

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I remain irritated there’s no legitimate way to watch the recent spin-offs in the UK.

I’m risk adverse when it comes to VPNs and that, because I work from home and so don’t want to screw my internet up. More my own ignorance like.

But at least release them on DVD, or let me buy them on Prime.

   
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Watching The Ones Who Live. It’s ok, I guess. Just feel like we’ve done this storyline a few times already. They turned The Commonwealth into the CRM so they could make this show. And then they already did a whole other show (world beyond) that was the same thing. I think they even destroyed it in that show. So they had to have a correction in this show saying basically “oh that was the other CRM”.

I think I’m bored because I just don’t think these evil empire factions are that realistic. I just don’t think the idea of the CRM which is an advanced society would go around just massacring everyone in sight would happen. I think 20 years into the apocalypse everyone would want to focus on establishing trade and reducing the overall amount of zombies on the planet but that’s just me I guess.

I think a good villain needs a good motive and the CRM is a lame and childish villain that’s motive seems to be: “we’re evil”.

 
   
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So I have reached the end of the original series. Overall, aside from series 7 (where I almost dropped out 2 or 3 times), and being consistently annoyed with walkers getting taken out with shallow stab wounds and inconsistent amounts of blunt force after they took the time to establish way early in the piece that the only active part of the brain is right at the brainstem... a thoroughly enjoyable ride.



Was going to move on to Fear the Walking Dead, but decided to go with Daryl Goes To France first instead, because... well, Daryl. First ep down, and pretty good so far.

 
   
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 insaniak wrote:
Was going to move on to Fear the Walking Dead, but decided to go with Daryl Goes To France first instead, because... well, Daryl. First ep down, and pretty good so far.

A good choice. Fear was a fair bit more uneven than TWD and can be quite a slog at times. Daryl Dixon has been my favorite spin-off so far (medieval weapons being used against walkers? YES!).

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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Fear I just couldn’t get on with. Our initial heroes are just utterly unlikable. The show was meant to show how society fell. Then just….didnt. At all.

From there its basically scripted from the factory sweepings of the main series.

   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Fear I just couldn’t get on with. Our initial heroes are just utterly unlikable. The show was meant to show how society fell. Then just….didnt. At all.

From there its basically scripted from the factory sweepings of the main series.


Yeah pretty much. Extremely uneven from season to season too. The coolest scene was in season 1 or 2 when the original Dad guy killed those two dude-bros by hand in a total rage. After that though the rest of the series is quite missable. I gave up on it and didn't watch the last season. When they brought back Madison I thought that might be cool but their idea was to make her character the complete opposite of what she was. She like goes around stealing babies for no discernable reason now? So dumb, I'm out. Also, Morgan is jut plain annoying now.

 
   
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They somehow kept finding new and inexplicably duller sharks to jump. Including Lex Luther’s Dad deciding throwing in some Nukes out to keep things fun.

   
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Which was almost interesting but then somehow wasn't. I think the main problem with TWD TVverse is they think they need a villain all the time. I think the zombie craze took off because of the survivalism aspect. People started to think about how'd they get by in an apocalyptic world. How to get food and water and whatnot. Not which cartoonish supervillain they will have to vanquish next, each one more ridiculous than the last. I think apocalyptic survival is interesting on its own but I'm probably in the minority. Ironically, the TV Show is more comic-bookey than the comic book.

 
   
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Fear the Walking Dead suffers from basically every character being some degree of insufferable.

Not necessarily all at once. Instead it's like they have an insufferable whiny bitch ball they take turns passing around. The kid characters especially come off as suicidally oblivious and the parents unforgivable for how much they coddle their kids in a disaster scenario and the kids even worse for acting like the zombie apocalypse is somehow the same kind of crisis as having their phone and internet access revoked and oh they can't go to the hip cool kid party either. On account of all the cool kids being dead.

IMO this makes Fear the Walking Dead even less enjoyable, especially as latter seasons build on this by always making you hate a character anytime something even mildly interesting seems like it might happen to them.

Most character deaths in the show are actually hilarious more than sad, just because you'll hate the characters so much by the time they die you'll be happy to see them gone. But that short catharsis isn't worth all the insane padding on the show, or how much stupid gak the stupid whiny gak characters survive before finally dying in a way somehow more absurd than all the obvious ways they should have died already.

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I dunno if I’m being overly generous to the writers, but I feel that the original family being no hopers could’ve been an interesting idea.

Say what you like about the middle season of Walking Dead, but once we get that time jump, our survivors feel like authentic survivors. Sure, not everyone is a combat monster. But they all have their role within their settlements, ensuring the whole of the thing ticks over.

   
 
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