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Just wondered as there seem to be many many people on here with quite a solid base of business knowledge. We have all seen the many many many many many threads on various forums concerning Warhammer Quest adn Squats. People are screaming for them to come back in some way or form. Why if you had so much popular demand would GW not cash in on that. I do firmly beleive that they will do a space hulk type re release of warhammer quest as its basically negelctful of the warhammer realm for them not to do this. Especially as I don't think anyone was crying out for a space hulk re release in nearly the numbers that they do for quest. Now I honestly think they will never bring back the squats as much as it saddens me that they have been essentialyl forgotten and cast from memory in the 40k fluff from what I have noticed (please correct me if I am wrong and direct me to reference of them if there is any please).

Simple discussion lets not get angry about it. This is not an I want squats/quest back thread. This is a discussion as to the logistics and pros and cons of doing such a thing.

Just because some people want them doesn't mean the company would put forth the effort unless they could make money from it.

You have to remeber that the internet is the resting place of the "vocal minority"


It is very easy for something to seem very popular here, but most people in the "hobby at large" are not a fan of it.


A hundred uses posting stuff here is a lot of noise, but it is still only a hundred people.


GW wants stuff that sells thousands of units.

that is a fair point, it easy to think that the demand is higher when you see it from a forum full of old faithful gamers, does not mean its a true call of the masses. But thats not to say that your right and that the large slice of people here is not a rough look at the general playing public

Imagine an Apoc Landtrain lol

Lovepug13 wrote:Imagine an Apoc Landtrain lol

Ok I am imagining it, what your point??

Don't get me wrong I would love to see warhammer quest back, back int' day it was an utterly fantastic game and many a good hour was spent playing it. However you have to consider it was never as popular as Space Hulk and lets be honest D&D do a pretty similar thing with there figures now and that is the type of game WQ is a dungeon crawler, it makes no sense workshop would go up against something like D&D as that would be target audience with the hope that they then move onto WFB which most roleplayers won't. It's a great idea but not on that makes sense, still a limited splash release like Space Hulk would get me to part with my money.

And squats were never that popular niether were Chaos Dwarves people only got interested in them when they were discontinued.

99MDeery wrote: Don't get me wrong I would love to see warhammer quest back, back int' day it was an utterly fantastic game and many a good hour was spent playing it. However you have to consider it was never as popular as Space Hulk and lets be honest D&D do a pretty similar thing with there figures now and that is the type of game WQ is a dungeon crawler, it makes no sense workshop would go up against something like D&D as that would be target audience with the hope that they then move onto WFB which most roleplayers won't. It's a great idea but not on that makes sense, still a limited splash release like Space Hulk would get me to part with my money.

At no point did i mention them taking on D&D. I said they should do it just like they did Space Hulk, and you have just said you would buy it!! Please read something before you comment on it!!

lukewild1982 wrote:Now I honestly think they will never bring back the squats as much as it saddens me that they have been essentialyl forgotten and cast from memory in the 40k fluff from what I have noticed (please correct me if I am wrong and direct me to reference of them if there is any please).

Reading is our friend....especially when you are the original poster

lukewild1982 wrote:Why if you had so much popular demand would GW not cash in on that.

Because there is no popular demand for it. If you think there is, it simply means you're a victim of confirmation bias.

Also, making a new product line is a HUGE investment that you're simply not considering. With what I know of plastic injection molding, just making the dies for basics, two kinds of troops, a heavy, a fast (and then do elites and HQ in metal) would cost more than half a million US$, and that's only going with the bare minimum. They might even have to get a new injection molder to accommodate the additional production. That's a hell of a significant investment for something not many people particularly want.

lukewild1982 wrote:Just wondered as there seem to be many many people on here with quite a solid base of business knowledge. We have all seen the many many many many many threads on various forums concerning Warhammer Quest adn Squats. People are screaming for them to come back in some way or form. Why if you had so much popular demand would GW not cash in on that. I do firmly beleive that they will do a space hulk type re release of warhammer quest as its basically negelctful of the warhammer realm for them not to do this. Especially as I don't think anyone was crying out for a space hulk re release in nearly the numbers that they do for quest. Now I honestly think they will never bring back the squats as much as it saddens me that they have been essentialyl forgotten and cast from memory in the 40k fluff from what I have noticed (please correct me if I am wrong and direct me to reference of them if there is any please).

Simple discussion lets not get angry about it. This is not an I want squats/quest back thread. This is a discussion as to the logistics and pros and cons of doing such a thing.

Basicly the long story short is that the "Squats" as we know them belong to Olly. You want squats, get in touch with him for the real ones, any other kind of rerelease will end up looking like Gak. There are numbers of them stillout there from back i9in the day, and there is no reason for you to give GW any sort of ideas. They know all, they see all.

pfft.


As for Warhammer Quest? I give it a few months before we see it out there as a bone to throw at the fans that they are losing as the weeks go by over thier bullgak. Rememeber, this is the company that is pulling the same trick that Mongoose did with Starship Troopers, and learning the same lessions the hard way on how to how to win fans and influence people.

As for "Bringing Back..." In all honest, the sculpers are the ones that developed the miniatures. The "GW Hobby" floats on thier backs on thier work. Find the specific sculper that appeals to you and keep them in business, because at the end of the day, GW is a rotting shell that forgot where they came from.


Go here for your space dwarf love.

http://www.olleysarmies.co.uk/home.html


Warhammer Quest is out there on the web. Burn off your copy and go hunt down the minis. People have them cheap, and they are readily available.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=ie7&q=warhammer+Quest&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&rlz=1I7TSNA_enDE388

lukewild1982 wrote:

99MDeery wrote: Don't get me wrong I would love to see warhammer quest back, back int' day it was an utterly fantastic game and many a good hour was spent playing it. However you have to consider it was never as popular as Space Hulk and lets be honest D&D do a pretty similar thing with there figures now and that is the type of game WQ is a dungeon crawler, it makes no sense workshop would go up against something like D&D as that would be target audience with the hope that they then move onto WFB which most roleplayers won't. It's a great idea but not on that makes sense, still a limited splash release like Space Hulk would get me to part with my money.

At no point did i mention them taking on D&D. I said they should do it just like they did Space Hulk, and you have just said you would buy it!! Please read something before you comment on it!!

I did read what you said, but in terms out the wider gaming community not just the GW universe, WQ is a very similar game to DnD and if they did a full release again thats the kind of game it would try to share marketspace with, hence my using it as an example.

lukewild1982 wrote:Just wondered as there seem to be many many people on here with quite a solid base of business knowledge. We have all seen the many many many many many threads on various forums concerning Warhammer Quest adn Squats. People are screaming for them to come back in some way or form. Why if you had so much popular demand would GW not cash in on that. I do firmly beleive that they will do a space hulk type re release of warhammer quest as its basically negelctful of the warhammer realm for them not to do this. Especially as I don't think anyone was crying out for a space hulk re release in nearly the numbers that they do for quest. Now I honestly think they will never bring back the squats as much as it saddens me that they have been essentialyl forgotten and cast from memory in the 40k fluff from what I have noticed (please correct me if I am wrong and direct me to reference of them if there is any please).

Simple discussion lets not get angry about it. This is not an I want squats/quest back thread. This is a discussion as to the logistics and pros and cons of doing such a thing.

1. Warhammer Quest would need to be totally redone. The printing technology is different, so they'd have to start from scratch working up the game.
2. The molds for the miniatures may or may not still be usable and have to be redone.
3. SpaceHulk had a very long lead time. They might be working on it, and we won't know for a year or so.
4. Pricepoint on the set will be high, as it was a hefty box with a ton of miniatures. It might sell well, or they might have a ton left over.
5. Fantasy Flight may have the rights for games like that. Not sure how their agreement reads.
6. Despite some demand, they may deem it not enough to commit the resources.

Despit people having nostoalgia about the squats:
1. Molds are certainly bad, and would need to be redone.
2. Models need redoing, as some are ok, and some arent.
3. They need a hell of a lot more than infantry and trikes, to make them a viable army. There may not be anyone at GW that has a clear idea of where to go with the squats.
4. They may not think them a viable army that will sell enough to just ify the army.

These are answers as to why GW may not want to do the projects, based on talks with a lot of guys. Some customer demand doesn't equate to enough sales of justify the resources.