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Ok, it has been a long time since I have played my IG but I am trying to put together a competative Imperial Guard list for an upcoming tournament at 1850 points, so do your worst. As a note the command squad and the veterans are the ones who will be utilizing the Drop Troops Doctrine.

 

Doctrines:

Drop Troops

Hardened Veterans

Rough Riders

Close Order Drill

Iron Discipline

 

HQ

Command Platoon

Command Squad

Junior Officer

3x Guardsmen w/ Meltas

1x Guardsmen w/ Lasgun

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ELITES

Hardened Veterans

1x Veteran Sergeant

1x Hardened Veteran w/ lasgun

3x Hardened Veterans w/ Plasma guns

 

Hardened Veterans

1x Veteran Sergeant

1x Hardened Veteran w/ lasgun

3x Hardened Veterans w/ Plasma guns

 

Hardened Veterans

1x Veteran Sergeant

1x Hardened Veteran w/ lasgun

3x Hardened Veterans w/ Plasma guns

 

TROOPS

Infantry Platoon 1

Command Squad

Junior Officer w/ Iron Discipline, Honorifica

2x Guardsmen w/ Lasguns

2x Guardsmen w/ Plasmaguns

 

5x Infantry Squads

1x Lascannon crew

1x Plasmagun

 

Infantry Platoon 2

Command Squad

Junior Officer w/ Iron Discipline

2x Guardsmen w/ Lasguns

2x Guardsmen w/ Plasmaguns

 

5x Infantry Squads

1x Heavy Bolter Crew

1x Flamer

 

FAST ATTACK

Rough Riders

1x Veteran Sergeant w/ Hunting Lance

5x Rough Riders w/ Hunting Lances

 

Heavy Support

Leman Russ

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Leman Russ

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Basalisk

-Indirect Fire

 

TOTAL: 1850

 

One thing I would change is the HB/F in the second platoon. The F doesn't compliment the HB in any way. It's the only thing that I see screaming for change.

CHQ with F (from 2nd Plt)
Vet SQD with Meltas (from CHQ)
2nd Plt with Plasma/ HB combo (from the Vet SQD)

Anyway to find some more points and kit those PHQ with more plasma?

Well I could drop one heavy bolter squad and then give every squad a plasma gun. Think thats a good idea? Short of that It might be hard to find a way to cut any more fat.

You are absolutely correct. This list is in great shape. No fat a'tall. It's just a matter of finding 20 pts to make those other 5 sqds good. As it stands, they are only ok. Adding Plasma would help them exponentially. Granted, some will succumb to over heats and what not, but I think it's worth the risk.

Since it is only 20 points, you could drop a RR, change the CHQ to flamers and then plasma out your sqds. This will make thos 5 sqds more effective, your CHQ still a decent counter assault to your lines, and the RR's don't lose much themselves. Iknow, I know 6, not 5. As it stands, you lose 1 RR as opposed to 10 troopers, and a HB. On the + side, you get 5 plasma guns to go with those HB's at 1847 ish.

All in all, a good list with a lil something for you to think about.

Alright heres the new variation although it's not much diffrent. Dropped a RR switched the meltas in the CHQ to 3 Flamers and upgraded the second platoon to plasma wielders. I think your advice is solid and the list looks slightly sturdier. I am considering going back to the meltas in the CHQ though and dropping them but I am worried that with just 2 meltas instead of 3 their effectivness will take a significant drop, as before it was all but a certainty they would hit but now the chances of them landing even 1 shot is considerably reduced (although still fairly high), but being able to target basalisks and defilers, or any standoff armor, is pretty valuable IMHO. I don't know though, any other comments would be appreciated.


HQ
Command Platoon
Command Squad
Junior Officer
3x Guardsmen w/ Flamers
1x Guardsmen w/ Lasgun

ELITES
Hardened Veterans
1x Veteran Sergeant
1x Hardened Veteran w/ lasgun
3x Hardened Veterans w/ Plasma guns

Hardened Veterans
1x Veteran Sergeant
1x Hardened Veteran w/ lasgun
3x Hardened Veterans w/ Plasma guns

Hardened Veterans
1x Veteran Sergeant
1x Hardened Veteran w/ lasgun
3x Hardened Veterans w/ Plasma guns

TROOPS
Infantry Platoon 1
Command Squad
Junior Officer w/ Iron Discipline, Honorifica
2x Guardsmen w/ Lasguns
2x Guardsmen w/ Plasmaguns

5x Infantry Squads
1x Lascannon crew
1x Plasmagun

Infantry Platoon 2
Command Squad
Junior Officer w/ Iron Discipline
2x Guardsmen w/ Lasguns
2x Guardsmen w/ Plasmaguns

5x Infantry Squads
1x Heavy Bolter Crew
1x Plasmagun

FAST ATTACK
Rough Riders
1x Veteran Sergeant w/ Hunting Lance
4x Rough Riders w/ Hunting Lances

Heavy Support
Leman Russ
-Hull and Sponson Heavy Bolters, Improved Comms

Leman Russ
-Hull and Sponson Heavy Bolters

Basalisk
-Indirect Fire

TOTAL: 1848

If it's Melta you need, you could replace the Vet plasmas with Meltas for free. This would make your Meltas even more effective then you originally had them. Ofcourse, If you liked them so much, you could replace more of your Vets with them.

I think you have a pretty good list here. At this point, besides the Melta/Plasma Vets, there's not a thing I would change.

Be prepared though, there are many IG generals out there with radical ideas like the use of Ogryns and other junk. Be wary.

I am not an IG player, but isn't this rather extremely heavy on the anti-marine and anti-armored company?
I do play marines and know them intimately, (no jokes Flagg), so I know the horror that this list could cause, but I think you might have issues with a large horde type list in assault like Orcs or dark eldar. . .

Hm. I was almost thinking the opposite - what with heavy bolters on half his infantry and all. I'm guessing the command HQ is dropping. What Flagg07 said about the meltas, if your lascannon need some help. Level, traditional IG - this list is close to optimal for what it tries to do.

No such thing, as flashlights actually are not that bad against orks and eldar.  There are plenty of thoes in this list to fight horde.

See? I told you to be wary of the radicals...

@Citadel I am not an IG player, but isn't this rather extremely heavy on the anti-marine and anti-armored company?

5 HB/ 5 LC....seems pretty even to me.

@Citadel you might have issues with a large horde type list in assault like Orcs or dark eldar. . .

It's IG, ofcourse they'll have trouble in assault. The only thing in his list that he wants to assault with is the RR's and they're a 1 hit wonder, but an effective 1HW.

The only change I offered was to make the 2nd platoon that more effective. Ok, the PG is an effective MEQ hunter. That being said, it is also effective at non-MEQ hunting. You're not implying grenade launchers are you?