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Please note before you post in this thread that if you pass any judgement about any members for sharing any information regarding their STDs or sexual preferences, I will block you and you will receive no further response from me within the message board at all. I urge people who look to avoid stress and continue this important conversation to do the same.

I just recently contracted herpes symplex one from a regular sexual partner of mine who ended up having a one night stand at a party. Because of our arrangement, I am not bitter about it whatsoever, mainly because I realized exactly how mild and treatable it actually is. I researched it extensively (15+ hours of cross-checking references and self-examination) as soon as I broke out, because like any machine-fearing man, I was taught at a young age that it was one of the most horrifying experiences a person can go through, and all of my other friends without herpes felt the same way. It was even a topic of hilarity among us at some point during pubescence. The worst part is, no school system or STD program really teaches you how to self-diagnose and prevent other people from becoming contaminated. They just show you the most horrifying pictures they can find of cases of STDs that have gone far beyond repair.

The first thing I noticed is that it feels exactly like poison ivy, only milder and easier to deal with. It behaves in exactly the same way, but it's much more easily preventable than any person is ever led to believe. Let's say you had an innoculation of both symplex one and symplex two in a place on your skin that is difficult to touch, and you covered it every time you broke out with a bandage or gauze to avoid contact with open sores. Not only would you never catch herpes on your mouth or genitals as long as you avoided contact with someone that has open sores (a place that is far less pleasant to have an outbreak, and even causes more itching and spreading of the virus, than, say, the back of your thigh) your immune system would become stronger from fighting it every day of your life and you would ultimately get sick less often and live longer, thus spending less money on doctor visits per year and living to see your social security benefits. Having herpes sores on your genitals makes you more likely to transmit and receive other STDs, but not if you only break out on an area that avoids sexual contact completely.

The second thing I noticed is exactly how much money I could be spending on herpes medication per year to help myself feel better socially (which is exorbitantly expensive and mostly inneffective) when it's the most easily treatable disease in the world. Avoiding sunlight makes you have less outbreaks, and I'm a night owl. Staying stress free also avoids outbreaks, and I like having an excuse to stay happy (I'm pretty manic depressive otherwise). Having a good immune system means that you won't break out as much and your outbreaks will be more tolerable, and I only get sick three times a year. The only terrible part about having it is fearing spreading it to other people and the completely ridiculous social stigma that comes along with it. You instantly become ousted by society for basically having a preventable and highly treatable form of poison ivy, and can only associate sexually with other people who have it. Then I realized exactly how many people have herpes, despite the seething hatred towards it. Nearly 50% of all people ever have it, in some form. Some were just lucky enough not to have it transmitted sexually, where it simply exacerbates itself.

Think about those last two facts for a moment. 50% of society is a lot of money in overpriced, government funded herpes medications that don't even manage to treat your symptoms as well as living a different life and using cheap antibiotics. More importantly, Herpes, nor any 'STD', does not have to be transmitted sexually at all. You're told to wear a condom from a young age to prevent STDs, but they don't prevent STDs whatsoever, simply because STDs are never explicitly 'sexual'. You get them anywhere they can find a spot to infect. Condoms don't allow you full penetration without genital contact, and that's how humans were designed to have sex. By wearing a condom, not only do you spend more money on sex and completely decrease your libido, you still transmit STDs just as easily (if not more easily because of the way latex actually breaks the skin on a penis after prolonged friction. It's basically incubating any STD your partner might have and allowing it to enter your body easier. I learned this by wearing a latex glove on one hand after it had already touched my sores, and now that hand is completely covered in them and will remain that way every time I have an outbreak), including both forms of herpes, syphilis, gonnorhea, hepatitis, HPV, and most importantly, AIDS. Which brings me to my next point.

I went to the free clinic to get tested for herpes, even though I was already completely sure by cross-checking the initial symptoms. I okayed the AIDS test, because I was more terrified of that, in all honestly. You know what they did? Pricked my finger (which causes herpes to transmit far more easily to my fingers, where they can infect other people) and came up with a result in less than a minute. I asked him how much the machine cost, and he slipped up and told me "About 500 dollars." 500 dollars. For infinite AIDS tests. This revelation made me realize that death by AIDs is just as preventable as death by diabetes, we just aren't given the means. We are expected to pay 20,000-30,000 dollars on AIDS medication a year once we do catch it, which is way too easy when you don't have a device that tells you in under a minute with a prick of the finger.

What also concerned me was how long they're taking to come up with any definitive result from my general STD test. Two weeks. That's enough time for me to transmit any easily curable STD to other people, who will ultimately funnel into the same fethed up system and repeat the cycle. Thankfully my girlfriend kept some antibiotics because she's on permanent birth control and couldn't use them unless she wanted a baby during the time we could have sex. All of the most horrifying STDs are already gone, and I would've had to go back and pay a doctor to fill out a script (as well as suffered through it so I feared it even more) when I could've just as easily received the same meds over the counter with absolutely no hassle.

Now, I want you to think to yourself for a second. Why do you fear STDs so much? I'll tell you why, if you haven't already guessed it from reading this far. The government is trying to make sure that you get an STD just to empty your coffers on ridiculously expensive 'groundbreaking' medications. From this side of the fence, it's very easy to see this. I'm just glad I caught symplex 1 and not something worse first so I could educate myself about STDs to the fullest possible extent.

It's time to open your eyes. Innoculate yourself from herpes at the first opportunity, buy an AIDS test kit (it's worth every penny), and carry antibiotics (even if you have to lie to a doctor to get them), and you will never have to fear an STD again. And life without fear is a far more happy life, even if you can see things for how fethed up they really are. Trust me on this one.

I really don't know what to say........thanks for the info..?

I know it's all very difficult to hear, but it's all resoundingly true.

You live a lie until you actually catch an STD, and at that point, you're already sucked into the fethed up medical/government funnel that has been determining your outlook on this sort of matter since the day you were born.

So should I get an STD or not..........

Condoms are well known to educated people, not to be 100% in everything. That being said, they provide significant more protection to most STDS than not wearing one would.

http://www.advocatesforyouth.org/publications/416

There is easily goggled website, that has sources such as studies on the matter.

Well, try not to. The point is that you've been trying in the wrong way.

You catch STDs even easier by wearing a condom (if not, the rate is at least exactly the same, unless you refuse to go balls deep and only last a handful of minutes, and tell me honestly that you have sex 'half shaft'. You don't; it's not natural and it feels nowhere near as good). It's just physics, especially if you know anything about biology whatsoever (for a condom to work in theory, it has to be an airtight seal and it isn't at all airtight against a constantly shifting organ like a penis, heat causes bacteria and viruses to multiply, latex traps your genitalia's heat in while you're penetrating your partner as well as syphoning off their heat, friction from rubber causes slight tears in your genital's skin, and the extremely multiplied virus/bacteria can enter those tears more easily if they have nowhere else to go. If I need more proof of this, all the people I know who have herpes got it while wearing a condom, the only person I know who openly admits to having aids was wearing a condom, and four out of five of the people I know who have HPV got it while wearing a condom). If you innoculate yourself from herpes, you will prevent yourself from getting genital herpes, which is actually a painful problem and causes it to spread to other places in your body and other people more easily, as well as allowing you to catch far worse STDs more easily. If you own an HIV testing kit/quick blood test, you can simply prick your partner's finger and wait less than a minute to figure out whether or not you have any chance of catching HIV whatsoever.

Please take this to heart. I'm using my own unfortunate experience as a way to educate other people the right way and allow them to live without fearing STDs, like so many people do.

The fear even causes people to go into denial and avoid getting tested, which allows for more genital infections. It's a vicious cycle that needs to stop right now. Tell your kids this, even, before you let the school system plant fear in their mind about it. Don't show them STDs (that's shock factor, which is actually detrimental), tell them all the possible symptoms and how to prevent them completely or at least prevent them from spreading to others. Don't perpetuate the fear that has cost people thousands upon thousands of dollars. It's time to stop that bullgak.

Also, Sasori, 'clinically proven' means absolutely nothing within the grounds of this discussion. We are discussing outside the bounds of 'clinically proven', because clinics started the cycle to make money in the first place. Try thinking logically instead of clinically with 'statistics' to back up your beliefs. It won't work here, I'm arguing against every STD statistic there is right now.

Condoms sound good on paper, and they're an easy way of fooling stupid people into thinking they're protecting themselves when they're really putting themselves more at risk by strapping a lubed up balloon to their cock. They do not work. At all. Do not fool yourself into thinking they work for anything but birth control. Even then, semen seeps out the base of the condom unless you pull out immediately, and you were wearing a condom in the first place so you don't have to pull out. Unless you shoot tiny loads, in which case a condom might work for you in this manner. I find myself needing alternate methods of birth control all the time, despite using a condom with untrusted partners with extreme regularity.

If you need a more hands on example, try rubbing a condom on your arm for five minutes and see how much skin peels off.

Chrysaor686 wrote:Please note before you post in this thread that if you pass any judgement about any members for sharing any information regarding their STDs or sexual preferences, I will block you and you will receive no further response from me within the message board at all. I urge people who look to avoid stress and continue this important conversation to do the same.

Can I at least mock you for managing a viral disease with antibiotics?

Chrysaor686 wrote:Well, try not to. The point is that you've been trying in the wrong way.

You catch STDs even easier by wearing a condom. It's just physics, especially if you know anything about biology whatsoever (heat causes bacteria and viruses to multiply, latex traps your genitalia's heat in while you're penetrating your partner as well as syphoning off their heat, friction from rubber causes slight tears in your genital's skin, and the extremely multiplied virus/bacteria can enter those tears more easily if they have nowhere else to go). If you innoculate yourself from herpes, you will prevent yourself from getting genital herpes, which is actually a painful problem and causes it to spread to other places in your body and other people more easily, as well as allowing you to catch far worse STDs more easily. If you own an HIV testing kit/quick blood test, you can simply prick your partner's finger and wait less than a minute to figure out whether or not you have any chance of catching HIV whatsoever.

Please take this to heart. I'm using my own unfortunate experience as a way to educate other people the right way and allow them to live without fearing STDs, like so many people do.

The fear even causes people to go into denial and avoid getting tested, which allows for more genital infections. It's a vicious cycle that needs to stop right now. Tell your kids this, even, before you let the school system plant fear in their mind about it. Don't show them STDs (that's shock factor, which is actually detrimental), tell them all the possible symptoms and how to prevent them completely or at least prevent them from spreading to others. Don't perpetuate the fear that has cost people thousands upon thousands of dollars. It's time to stop that bullgak.

Dude, where are you getting this? There are proven studies, about the reduction in the spread of STDs from condom use. I mean, do you have any sources, or any studies to back up these kind of claims?

It isn't often one gets to be at the inception of a conspiracy theory and the earliest moments of a delusion. It's no lizard man conspiracy, but it certainly is up there with the vaccines = autism goofiness. I was going to avoid this train wreck until you stated:

You catch STDs even easier by wearing a condom (if not, the rate is at least exactly the same

which is both incredibly wrong as well as a dangerous bit of misinformation.

I disagree with how you seem to treat antibiotics.

First of all you should never have any antibiotics left over from a prescription. If they say to take them for 10 days then you should take them for 10 days not just until you no longer show symptoms. The reason for this is the rampant antimicrobial resistance we (in the medical field) are now seeing. When you don’t finish your antibiotic regiment you risk not killing off all of whatever it was that you were infected with. Whatever is left is more resistant to the drug. If you self-treat with the few pills you have left later it’s just as bad.

Assuming you could dupe your doctor into giving you a prescription…

It’s still not a good idea to lie to your doctor just so you can get prescription medications for reasons I’ve just described. Also if you’re making stuff up when describing your symptoms the doctor could easily give you the wrong dosage or the wrong antibiotic.

Also as someone else who has researched a number of STD’s (though for different reasons than yours) I think I’ll hold off contracting one as long as possible (hopefully ever).



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lord_blackfang wrote:

Chrysaor686 wrote:Please note before you post in this thread that if you pass any judgement about any members for sharing any information regarding their STDs or sexual preferences, I will block you and you will receive no further response from me within the message board at all. I urge people who look to avoid stress and continue this important conversation to do the same.

Can I at least mock you for managing a viral disease with antibiotics?

Sure reads like it doesn’t it…

I had hoped that the "all the horrifying STD's are already gone" encompassed a whole barnyard of nasty bugs.

Better that than he gave himself antibiotics for no good reason.

ANTIMICROBIAL RESISTANCE PEOPLE!

Chrysaor686 wrote: By wearing a condom, not only do you spend more money on sex and completely decrease your libido, you still transmit STDs just as easily (if not more easily because of the way latex actually breaks the skin on a penis after prolonged friction

Condoms decrease your libido?

You must find them difficult to put on.

Also, that rant was hilarious and terrible.

Ahtman wrote:It isn't often one gets to be at the inception of a conspiracy theory and the earliest moments of a delusion. It's no lizard man conspiracy, but it certainly is up there with the vaccines = autism goofiness. I was going to avoid this train wreck until you stated:

You catch STDs even easier by wearing a condom (if not, the rate is at least exactly the same

which is both incredibly wrong as well as a dangerous bit of misinformation.

Ahtman! What are you talking about?! It's clearly basic physics and biology!

No, but really, I agree that kind of misinformation should be avoided at all costs.

Hopefully all the dissenting comments are enough to dissuade anyone from following the OP's advice.

Chrysaor686 wrote:
Please take this to heart. I'm using my own unfortunate experience as a way to educate other people the right way and allow them to live without fearing STDs, like so many people do.

Birth control isn't 100% effective in terms of preventing pregnancy or STD infection? Holy crap, I never knew because, you see, I never paid attention to labels or sex-ed.

I think this went the opposite direction it was intended to go in.

Thought-provoking post.... but like the others, I will disagree on this one.

This revelation made me realize that death by AIDs is just as preventable as death by diabetes,

You will have to elaborate on that one. Correct me if I'm wrong, but once HIV is contracted, it's impossible to stop. One way or another it WILL slaughter your immune system and contribute to a horrible death.

Sasori wrote:Dude, where are you getting this? There are proven studies, about the reduction in the spread of STDs from condom use. I mean, do you have any sources, or any studies to back up these kind of claims?

From personal experience and the amount of people I know who have contracted STDs and have to deal with them on a regular basis, all of whom wore a condom to protect them. It certainly doesn't help manners at all, it's just a blanket for idiots and lazy people to feel comfortable in. Also, a basic knowledge of physics and biology is enough to see that a condom is damaging your dick over prolonged sexual activity and allowing vaginal fluid to seep in through the base because of the nature of a penis, and that latex does not allow body heat to escape whatsoever.

Studies are often slanted, especially when it comes to the matter of making so much money.

Lord-blackfang wrote:Can I at least mock you for managing a viral disease with antibiotics?

You may. I was actually treating other possible diseases with antibiotics because I would've had to wait 2 weeks to treat other easily curable STDs otherwise. That's just fething ridiculous, no matter how you slice it. I got an antiviral prescription as well for my herpes, but I got the two mixed up because that was pretty long-winded.

Also, I had leftover antibiotics because my girlfriend is on birth control, and antibiotics disrupt birth control.



Please, I'll ask anyone else to not post any statistics. I really don't need to see any of that, it doesn't help prove anyone's point on this matter, because I started the argument to combat clinical 'studies', which basically exist to fuel an STD economy. The reason this theory is so prevalent is because it's soobvious to someone who actually has an STD.

Also, try not to insult my thesis. Instead, disprove it with logic instead of studies. Realize that you're just digging yourself a hole by combating an anti-clinical thesis with clinical studies. In other words, I don't give a feth if you can look it up on google, figure something out for yourself for once instead of using someone else's potentially paid off opinion.


I promise you, all of the dissenting comments have a basis in either fear or intentional misinformation and I can disprove every one by being coldly logical about the entire state of STDs and their treatment within the United States.

Dickbandit wrote:You will have to elaborate on that one. Correct me if I'm wrong, but once HIV is contracted, it's impossible to stop. One way or another it WILL slaughter your immune system and contribute to a horrible death.

You can spend 500 or more dollars (doesn't really matter how much it is) on a machine that will completely prevent you from ever catching AIDS, and you find out your partner's disposition simply by pricking their finger and waiting a few seconds.

Otherwise, once you catch it, you spend 20,000-30,000 a year on medications. Does that seem fair and balanced in your favor at all, especially since you die horribly of the more expensive option? Especially considering that condoms do not prevent you from getting aids from an HIV infected partner. The test kit is 100% effective, but good luck affording one initially or finding one for sale.

As a medical professional I will just go ahead and brace myself for being put on your ignore list.

The vast majority of your post is rubbish and that sort of misinformaiton is only going to get more people in trouble and infected, of course people who get their medical advice from DakkaDakka might deserve what they get.

Chrysaor686 wrote:Please note before you post in this thread that if you pass any judgement about any members for sharing any information regarding their STDs or sexual preferences, I will block you and you will receive no further response from me within the message board at all. I urge people who look to avoid stress and continue this important conversation to do the same.

I just recently contracted herpes symplex one from a regular sexual partner of mine who ended up having a one night stand at a party. Because of our arrangement, I am not bitter about it whatsoever, mainly because I realized exactly how mild and treatable it actually is. I researched it extensively (15+ hours of cross-checking references and self-examination) as soon as I broke out, because like any machine-fearing man, I was taught at a young age that it was one of the most horrifying experiences a person can go through, and all of my other friends without herpes felt the same way. It was even a topic of hilarity among us at some point during pubescence. The worst part is, no school system or STD program really teaches you how to self-diagnose and prevent other people from becoming contaminated. They just show you the most horrifying pictures they can find of cases of STDs that have gone far beyond repair.

I am glad that your 15+ hours of cross-checking and self-examination made you a professional in regards to STDs.

Chrysaor686 wrote:The first thing I noticed is that it feels exactly like poison ivy, only milder and easier to deal with. It behaves in exactly the same way, but it's much more easily preventable than any person is ever led to believe. Let's say you had an innoculation of both symplex one and symplex two in a place on your skin that is difficult to touch, and you covered it every time you broke out with a bandage or gauze to avoid contact with open sores. Not only would you never catch herpes on your mouth or genitals as long as you avoided contact with someone that has open sores (a place that is far less pleasant to have an outbreak, and even causes more itching and spreading of the virus, than, say, the back of your thigh) your immune system would become stronger from fighting it every day of your life and you would ultimately get sick less often and live longer, thus spending less money on doctor visits per year and living to see your social security benefits. Having herpes sores on your genitals makes you more likely to transmit and receive other STDs, but not if you only break out on an area that avoids sexual contact completely.

Go get Herpes, so you don't get Herpes! Great advice.

Chrysaor686 wrote:The second thing I noticed is exactly how much money I could be spending on herpes medication per year to help myself feel better socially (which is exorbitantly expensive and mostly inneffective) when it's the most easily treatable disease in the world. Avoiding sunlight makes you have less outbreaks, and I'm a night owl. Staying stress free also avoids outbreaks, and I like having an excuse to stay happy (I'm pretty manic depressive otherwise). Having a good immune system means that you won't break out as much and your outbreaks will be more tolerable, and I only get sick three times a year. The only terrible part about having it is fearing spreading it to other people and the completely ridiculous social stigma that comes along with it. You instantly become ousted by society for basically having a preventable and highly treatable form of poison ivy, and can only associate sexually with other people who have it. Then I realized exactly how many people have herpes, despite the seething hatred towards it. Nearly 50% of all people ever have it, in some form. Some were just lucky enough not to have it transmitted sexually, where it simply exacerbates itself.

Reducing the number of outbreaks is different from treating the outbreaks. Many medications are only given when you have an outbreak to decrease the severity and duration. Even if you are taking the medications, doing everything you can to reduce the number of outbreaks is always a good thing.

Chrysaor686 wrote:Think about those last two facts for a moment. 50% of society is a lot of money in overpriced, government funded herpes medications that don't even manage to treat your symptoms as well as living a different life and using cheap antibiotics. More importantly, Herpes, nor any 'STD', does not have to be transmitted sexually at all. You're told to wear a condom from a young age to prevent STDs, but they don't prevent STDs whatsoever, simply because STDs are never explicitly 'sexual'. You get them anywhere they can find a spot to infect. Condoms don't allow you full penetration without genital contact, and that's how humans were designed to have sex. By wearing a condom, not only do you spend more money on sex and completely decrease your libido, you still transmit STDs just as easily (if not more easily because of the way latex actually breaks the skin on a penis after prolonged friction. It's basically incubating any STD your partner might have and allowing it to enter your body easier. I learned this by wearing a latex glove on one hand after it had already touched my sores, and now that hand is completely covered in them and will remain that way every time I have an outbreak), including both forms of herpes, syphilis, gonnorhea, hepatitis, HPV, and most importantly, AIDS. Which brings me to my next point.

You are going to get STDs anyway, so don't wear a condom. Another great argument.

Chrysaor686 wrote:I went to the free clinic to get tested for herpes, even though I was already completely sure by cross-checking the initial symptoms. I okayed the AIDS test, because I was more terrified of that, in all honestly. You know what they did? Pricked my finger (which causes herpes to transmit far more easily to my fingers, where they can infect other people) and came up with a result in less than a minute. I asked him how much the machine cost, and he slipped up and told me "About 500 dollars." 500 dollars. For infinite AIDS tests. This revelation made me realize that death by AIDs is just as preventable as death by diabetes, we just aren't given the means. We are expected to pay 20,000-30,000 dollars on AIDS medication a year once we do catch it, which is way too easy when you don't have a device that tells you in under a minute with a prick of the finger.

The different rapid HIV tests contain a lot of false positives and are only designed as an initial screening tool. They also rely on antibodies, which take time to develop, so a negative rapid HIV test does not mean that you are not infected. Negatives need to be rescreened after a certain interval, and positives need to be confirmed by true laboratory testing.

Chrysaor686 wrote:What also concerned me was how long they're taking to come up with any definitive result from my general STD test. Two weeks. That's enough time for me to transmit any easily curable STD to other people, who will ultimately funnel into the same fethed up system and repeat the cycle.

Or you could just keep it in your pants for two weeks.

Chrysaor686 wrote:Thankfully my girlfriend kept some antibiotics because she's on permanent birth control and couldn't use them unless she wanted a baby during the time we could have sex. All of the most horrifying STDs are already gone, and I would've had to go back and pay a doctor to fill out a script (as well as suffered through it so I feared it even more) when I could've just as easily received the same meds over the counter with absolutely no hassle.

Antibiotics don't do a lick of good for viral infections, and by not taking them as prescribed all you and your girlfriend are doing is helping actual bacteria build resistance to antibiotics. Also, antibiotics are not available over the counter.

Chrysaor686 wrote:Now, I want you to think to yourself for a second. Why do you fear STDs so much? I'll tell you why, if you haven't already guessed it from reading this far. The government is trying to make sure that you get an STD just to empty your coffers on ridiculously expensive 'groundbreaking' medications. From this side of the fence, it's very easy to see this. I'm just glad I caught symplex 1 and not something worse first so I could educate myself about STDs to the fullest possible extent.

It's time to open your eyes. Innoculate yourself from herpes at the first opportunity, buy an AIDS test kit (it's worth every penny), and carry antibiotics (even if you have to lie to a doctor to get them), and you will never have to fear an STD again. And life without fear is a far more happy life, even if you can see things for how fethed up they really are. Trust me on this one.

And here your post just because a tin-foil-hat government program to infect you and take your money conspiracy theory.

Good luck with your self treatment.

Chrysaor686 wrote:[

Also, try not to insult my thesis. Instead, disprove it with logic instead of studies.

What?

Here's an idea, how about you prove your "theory" with studies.

Don't go argueing that "logic" supports your claim because it doesn't, neither does common sense.

And after reading you last post, I realize that you have no interest in presenting any actual clinical facts.

Simply "the government is trying to infect you and make money off you, and any proof to the contrary is simply a government cover up."

Maximum trolling detected.

Moral of the story. Don't trust women. They go out and sleep with other men behind your back.

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