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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/14 20:45:45
Subject: Ranged demons list, 1750
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Regular Dakkanaut
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My experiment with demons, this is intended to be a ranged army (as the title says) but I have a feeling this list is lacking.
HQ:
Fateweever - 333
Elites:
Flamers of Tzeentch- 170
-4 flamers
-bolt of tzeentch
Troops:
Pink Horrors 1- 185
- 10 horrors
- One with bolt
- Changeling
Pink Horrors 2- 180
-10 Horrors
-one with bolt
-chaos icon
Pink Horrors 3- 180
-10 horrors
-one with bolt
-chaos icon
Pink Horrors 4- 180
-10 horrors
-one with bolt
Plague Bearers- 90
-6 plague bearers
Fast Attack:
Screamers of Tzeentch- 48
-3 screamers
Heavy Support:
Demon Prince- 190
-Mark of Tzeentch
-Demonic Gaze
-Bolt of Tzeentch
-iron hide
Demon Prince- 190
-Mark of Tzeentch
-Demonic Gaze
-Bolt of Tzeentch
-iron hide
So, the horrors are an obvious choice in a ranged list. The demon princes are decked out to be firing platforms. Fateweaver is there for durability mostly. The plague bearers are there mainly because I can't think of something better and I figured they can be used for objective holding. The flamers are there for additional fire support and for the breathing on people that get too close.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/14 21:01:28
Subject: Ranged demons list, 1750
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Deadly Dark Eldar Warrior
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I'd bump the Plaguebearers up to 10, if they're gonna camp might as well bring a bigger crew of em.
I know some people don't like soulgrinders, but maybe consider one?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/14 21:24:22
Subject: Re:Ranged demons list, 1750
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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Needs some counter assault I reckon... And heralds of tzeentch. Maybe kit up the princes to punch face after they pop transports?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/14 21:34:53
Subject: Re:Ranged demons list, 1750
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Sergeant Major
In the dark recesses of your mind...
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How about: Herald of Tzeentch on chariot w/bolt, breath, master of sorcery Herald of Tzeentch on chariot w/bolt, breath, master of sorcery Herald of Tzeentch on chariot w/bolt, breath, master of sorcery 3x Flamers 3x Flamers 3x Flamers 6x Horrors w/bolt, Changling, icon 6x Horrors w/bolt, icon 6x Horrors w/bolt 6x Horrors w/bolt 6x Horrors w/bolt 6x Horrors w/bolt Demon Prince w/MoT, bolt Demon Prince w/MoT, bolt Demon Prince w/MoT, bolt
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/05/14 21:35:48
A Town Called Malus wrote:Just because it is called "The Executioners Axe" doesn't mean it is an axe...
azreal13 wrote:Dude, each to their own and all that, but frankly, if Dakka's interplanetary flame cannon of death goes off point blank in your nads you've nobody to blame but yourself!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/14 22:14:15
Subject: Ranged demons list, 1750
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Malicious Mutant Scum
Washington, US
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That's a very scary list above. My suggestion would be something like it, only shuffling around to get Gaze on the Princes. They get to fire two weapons being MCs and have your highest BS so you may as well get them shooting more. The only question is where you get those points. Personally I'd swap in the Breath on the Heralds, they've already got two ranged attacks without it and can use their jetbike status to kite things rather than charging in to use a template.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/15 06:54:02
Subject: Ranged demons list, 1750
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Terminator with Assault Cannon
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The new list is excellent.
But on the old list:
Drop the plague bearers, and screamers in favour for more horrors. You dont need PBs to camp when you have 5 ranged scoring units with 4++ invulns and fateweaver. And with all of your massed Bolt firing and MCs, screamers aren't needed.
I think you have added up the DPs points wrong? 80 for the prince, 30 for hide, 25 for MoT, 25 for bolt, 20 for Gaze. Comes to 180, not 190.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/15 14:05:48
Subject: Re:Ranged demons list, 1750
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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helium42 wrote:How about:
Herald of Tzeentch on chariot w/bolt, breath, master of sorcery
Herald of Tzeentch on chariot w/bolt, breath, master of sorcery
Herald of Tzeentch on chariot w/bolt, breath, master of sorcery
3x Flamers
3x Flamers
3x Flamers
6x Horrors w/bolt, Changling, icon
6x Horrors w/bolt, icon
6x Horrors w/bolt
6x Horrors w/bolt
6x Horrors w/bolt
6x Horrors w/bolt
Demon Prince w/MoT, bolt
Demon Prince w/MoT, bolt
Demon Prince w/MoT, bolt
Much better!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/15 14:16:06
Subject: Re:Ranged demons list, 1750
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Savage Khorne Berserker Biker
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have the squad with the most horrors have the changeling so they will shoot at it and have the highest chance to shoot other people
on heralds you don't need breath because you have flamers so scrap breath and give princes either more survivablity or more shooty stuff (prefer shooty)
i would combine the squads so you would have 18 9 and 9 horrors (18 haveing the changeling) but that's just me i would also have 2 flamers for more upgrades but again that's just me
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/16 12:33:47
Subject: Re:Ranged demons list, 1750
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Thanks, that list looks a lot better. Though I am going to scrap breadth on the flamers and give something to the princes (probably gaze to utilize the firing of 2 weapons per turn).
Edit:
Thanks for the feedback <3
edit:
so I came up with this. Unless I did the math wrong, it comes out to 1697pts so I still have stuff to throw in, any recomendations?
HQ:
Herald of Tzeentch-100
-chariot
-bolt of tzeentch
-mastery of sorcery
Herald of Tzeentch-100
-chariot
-bolt of tzeentch
-mastery of sorcery
Herald of Tzeentch-100
-chariot
-bolt of tzeentch
-mastery of sorcery
Elites:
Flamers of Tzeentch- 105
-3 flamers
Flamers of Tzeentch- 105
-3 flamers
Flamers of Tzeentch- 105
-3 flamers
Troops:
Pink Horrors- 112
-6 horrors
-bolt
-changling
Pink Horrors- 117
-6 horrors
-bolt
-chaos icon
Pink Horrors- 137
-6 horrors
-bolt
Pink Horrors- 112
-6 horrors
-bolt
Pink Horrors- 112
-6 horrors
-bolt
Pink Horrors- 112
-6 horrors
-bolt
Heavy Support:
Demon Prince- 190
-Mark of Tzeentch
-Demonic Gaze
-Bolt of Tzeentch
-iron hide
Demon Prince- 190
-Mark of Tzeentch
-Demonic Gaze
-Bolt of Tzeentch
-iron hide
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/05/16 12:56:52
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/16 12:45:53
Subject: Re:Ranged demons list, 1750
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Noise Marine Terminator with Sonic Blaster
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jbsnv wrote:have the squad with the most horrors have the changeling so they will shoot at it and have the highest chance to shoot other people
Check your codex again. The Changeling's squad does not have to be shot at. It only has to be in range to affect that squad. I made the same mistake until it was pointed out to me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/19 21:53:15
Subject: Re:Ranged demons list, 1750
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Regular Dakkanaut
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What is the best way to divide this army for deployment?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/05/20 10:12:21
Subject: Ranged demons list, 1750
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Terminator with Assault Cannon
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Prefered wave should look like; 3x heralds, 2 princes and 1 horror squad with icon.
That gives you 6 bolts. 2 @ BS5, 3 @ BS4, 1 @ BS3. And an icon so you can land successfully with the rest of your army.
If you swap out your heralds, you can afford Fateweaver, he is a huge bonus to your survivability.
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