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Made in us
Scuttling Genestealer




HQ

Swarmlord
3 Tyrant guard lw

Elites

2x2 Hive guard

Troop

Broodlord, st, ts
7 gs ts

Broodlord, st, ts
7 gs ts

10 term

Tervigon, ag, ts, catalyst

Heavy

Trygon ag

I hope to deploy the terms up front, with the swarmlord behind, followed by the tervigon to maximize cover saves, with the stealers outflanking and the Trygon deepstriking. It's a shame I haven't found my carnifex to be very useful, as its one of my favorite models

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/05/16 18:33:19


 
   
Made in us
Longtime Dakkanaut




Don't deep strike the Trygon. IF you do the opponent only has one real target on turn one with this list, the Trevigon. Kill that and the troops get real weak, real fast.

Not sure I like the list, but I can't really tweak with out dismantling it.
   
Made in ca
Krazed Killa Kan




Claremont, ON

I agree with the above. Also, you are a little over kill with 3 tyrant guards. Take 2 max. I wouldn't take a broodlord in both squads as you limit the amount of bodies in the unit. If you have to have a brood try just one and use the saved points some where else. Never deepstrike trygons. They can't assault and will be peppered hard once they arrive. Especially a solo one.
I would try something like this without really changing too much

Swarmlord
1 Tyrant guard LW (get's cover easier)

2x2 hive guard

10 term
Tervigon TS, AG, Cat
8 sealers TS; Broodlord
8 stealers TS
8 Stealers TS

Trygon Prime AG

You get an extra stealer unit and a prime trygon. your trygon has a potential of 18' assault range so DSing is never a good idea. Plus his shooting attack isn't half bad either.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/05/16 20:45:32


2500 4000 4000 5000 5000
DE 2500 TS: 2500 2500  
   
Made in gb
Praetorian





I used a list very similar to this to great effect against my friend's Necrons recently. I'll show you what I had.

HQ:
Swarmlord with Tyrant Guard: 340

Elite:
2 Hive Guard: 100
2 Hive Guard: 100
8 Ymgarl Genestealers: 184

Troop:
10 Termagants: 50
Tervigon with Catalyst + Scything Talons: 180
8 Genestealers with Broodlord: 172
8 Genestealers with Broodlord: 172

Heavy:
Trygon: 200

1498 Points total.

As has been said, you really don't need 3 Tyrant Guard at this points cost, and with 1 you can give the Swarmlord some easy cover.
I added Ymgarls, just to mix things up, as I find they're great fun.

The Genestealers can be given TS or a Broodlord. It's your call really, both have advantages.

And I'd reiterate what's been said before... Deep striking Trygons is bad business.


 
   
Made in gb
Tunneling Trygon






Agree that 1 tyrant guard will be generaly enough at 1,500 pts. You do need one though - I'd never run a swarmlord on his own.

"We didn't underestimate them but they were a lot better than we thought."
Sir Bobby Robson 
   
Made in nz
Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar





New Zealand

Does the swarmlord bring anything extra that a lashwhip & bonesword/scything talon hive tyrant does not?

Just that I too am looking at a 1500 nid army for a tourni, but see the swarmy as being to much of a point sink, but ymmv.

Give the said tyrant hive commander and armoured shell, and he still comes out much cheaper, points you can use for some more things

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/05/18 02:20:46


 
   
Made in us
Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets






Riverside, CA

But he doesn't get the 4+ invulnerae save, double psychic(not THAT great), or the unit boost.


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Oh yeah, one other thing....the difference between WS 8 and 9 is huge. At 9, WS 4 models(like Marines and Orks) are hitting on a 5+ instead of 4+.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/05/18 03:08:17


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Made in nz
Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar





New Zealand

But 4++ is for close comabat only, so he only has a 3+ protection agaisnt shooting attacks, I am sure a wise oppponent will not directly engage him and proceed to just run away shooting at him, also with all the greyknight players around he can still be insta-killed by force weapons, I understand your points and can see arguements both ways as to use him or not. I am still not entirely convinced, but I guess the only way is to do a bit of play testing.

Back on topic, the op's list is good, but as said, 1 tyrant guard should be enough, make the tyrgon a prime and maybe bulk out the stealer units / add a third one.
   
Made in us
Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets






Riverside, CA

I agree with you, was just answering the question =P. The list seems to me a little shy on models, and I like the one posted with the extra stealer unit, but I'm not an experienced nid player yet.

My Ork Taktikka: The Art of Waaagh! Last updated: 02-25-2012
My Sampler Platter 2k Battlewagon list
Warlord Bonecrusha's Waaagh! 5000+ Ork (W/L/D): 21/1/1
Angels Ascendent 3000+ Marine/Blood Angels (W/L/D): 3/0/0
Hive Fleet Chupacabra 2000+ Tyranids (W/L/D) 2/0/0
DR:70S++G++MB--IPw40k10/f+D++A+/mWD001R+++T(T)DM+
My 2 hour Stompa! 
   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut





The swarmlord is overpriced. and has a massive target on his head,and is forced to fight in close combat, who is gonig to engage with that? (i know im very biased here).

A Hive tyrant(preferably with a gun) and a guard is fine. Hive commander if you want to outflank that tervigon? Wings if you dont want him shot up in the first 2 turns, drop him in when the dangerous units are engaged. armoured shell isnt that useful if you want him in combat. Too many power wepaons around.

The tervigon is awesome. Nice FNP to your tyrant, not really enough gaunts to warrent TS/AG. youve only got 10 and possibly another 15? i might take TS at 30+. as for Ag, do they need furious charge? Are they not for holfing objectives, shielding and tieing up units? they want to die. I understand it could be useful but im just trying to save points for my next suggestion

Broodlords i dont personally find that effective, but 1 in 3 units i agree can serve a purpose. but bolster your genestealers if possible to 10, gives them some durability.
Or as i have done before with good success, drop stealers (all or some of) and add raveners with rending claws. faster, tougher, deepstriking stealers. (Downside is they cant have TS, but do have an option for a ranged wepon)

Hope that was useful!

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/05/24 19:43:27


 
   
 
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