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Hey,

This is my first post on here and I want ed to get some opinions about my 1,500 points fluffy white scars army for 40k.

Kor'sorro Khan + moondrakken - 205

Chaplain + jump pack + melta bombs - 120

5 bikes + power weapon + melta bombs + multimelta attack bike - 210

5 bikes + power weapon + melta bombs + multimelta attack bike - 210

10 tac marines + power weapon + plasma pistol + melta gun + missile launcher + rhino with storm bolter - 250

5 scouts + 4 snipers + missile launcher + camo cloaks - 100

5 assault marines + power weapon + storm shield + plasma pistol + melta bombs - 150

2 attack bikes - 80

land speeder with heavy bolter + assault cannon - 60

predator + twin-linked lascannons + storm bolter - 115

total = 1,500 points

I combat squad the tac marines with the melta and the sarg in the rhino and the missile launcher with 4 marines to hold objectives/provide fire support. I use the scouts as fire support/objective holding. The rest of the army targets the weakest part of the enemy army and picks them off one unit at a time whilst the predator provides anti tank fire support.

What do you think about my list/tactics? I've used this army against orks and thousand sons so far and i won both times but I will listen to any advice or criticism.

A few quick questions: Why no command squad on bikes? Why no meltas in bike squads? Why assault marines over more bikes? Why scouts at all? Why predator at all?

I would ditch attack bikes (easy targets even if flanking), assault marines (why?), the chaplain (libby on bike is better), the scouts (not sure what they do for you), and the predator (115 for one str 9 shot, no thanks). They make your force unnecassarily complex without doing anything better than more bike squads (which need to have meltas).

I would consider adding a command squad (PW death with FNP), a storm seerer (Null Zone), and more bike squads (3 melta shots a turn, plus scoring)...or another speeder, which BTW would be better as typhoon/melta than HB/AC. Uniform and redudant lists are tougher for opponents to handle and you'll gain firepower and gain CC ability (command squad). Give that stormseer null zone and have him ride with Khan and the command squad (with LC or PW) and you can mulch through enemy units.

Not to mention you'll stay fluffy

ok, cool. I'll have a re-jig and see what I can come up with. cheers for the reply.


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ok, so far I have come up with this (I kept the pred & speeder because I already have the models and they cost too much money to just not use);

Kor'sarro Khan - 205

Librarian (null zone+ the avenger) + bike - 135

Command squad + bikes + company champion + melta gun + power fist - 255

5 bikes + power weapon + melta bombs + 2 meltas + multimelta attack bike - 230

5 bikes + power weapon + melta bombs + 2 meltas + multimelta attack bike - 230

10 tac marines + power weapon + plasma pistol + melta + missile launcher + rhino with storm bolter - 250

land speeder with heavy bolter + assault cannon - 90

predator + twin linked lascannons - 105

total = 1,500 points

How's this list in comparison to the original?

looks good, if you can, I would think about PW instead of PF in the command squad, you'll be going at I5 with Khan's furious charge, so slowing to speed 1 might not be the best idea.

Other than that, given your models, looks good

cool. I gave the command squad a power fist instead of a power weapon cos i had some points left over & i figured a bit of anti-tank would come in handy just in case something goes terribly wrong and a dreadnought or something gets involved. also good for taking out marine HQs (plus the company champion has a power weapon too)

PM me or post once you've ran this... I'd like to hear how it did.

Will do. Need to buy the extra models first though so it may be a while before I get a chance. Damn budget cuts

edbradders wrote:Will do. Need to buy the extra models first though so it may be a while before I get a chance. Damn budget cuts

Before you buy, borrow or proxy (and wait for 6th edition). Give the list a few trial runs... see if any local guys are willing to let you use some of their models or proxy with similar units.

And by all means, wait for 6th edition, who knows what/were bike armies go once it hits and it might be best to wait and see.

Now with me I hate Meltas on bikes. They are really a poor idea to me.

The problem with them is you have to get to close to your target. Which in turn means your to close to their troops to get asaulted by. I prefer plasma's they seem to work better as they can be shot from range.

Do you plan on outflanking?

balsak_da_mighty wrote:Now with me I hate Meltas on bikes. They are really a poor idea to me.

The problem with them is you have to get to close to your target. Which in turn means your to close to their troops to get asaulted by. I prefer plasma's they seem to work better as they can be shot from range.

Do you plan on outflanking?

I agree on the concept, but things like orks die quickly to ranged bolter fire, and a command squad of i5 power weapons can run interference for the meltas. I outflank, which pushes my opponents vehicles to the center of the board. From there a simple turbo boost from a unit entering from the back of the board just messes things up.

I can understand that. I run Ravenwing, so I don't have the command squad.

I tried the meltas for a while and they just kept getting assaulted and then they died. Why I switched to Plasmas.