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Hey guys, I was thinking of a list, everything is pretty much straight forward except for the sterngaurd which are pretty much a suicide unit. Let me know what you think is trash.

HQ 100
Librarian - 100
-The Gate of Infinity
-Smite
ELITE 510
Sternguard Veterans (6 strong) 210
-Combi-melta
-Drop Pod
Venerable Dreadnought- 180
-Heavy Flamer
-Plasma Cannon
Dreadnought- 120
-Heavy Flamer
-Plasma Cannon
TROOPS 1015
Tactical Squad (10 strong) 265
-meltagun and missile launcher
-power weapon
-Razorback
-twin-linked lascannons
Tactical Squad (10 strong) 250
-meltagun and missile launcher
-Razorback
-twin-linked lascannons
Tactical Squad (10 strong) 250
-meltagun and missile launcher
-Razorback
-twin-linked lascannons
Tactical Squad (10 strong) 250
-meltagun and missile launcher
-Razorback
-twin-linked lascannons
FAST ATTACK 540
Land Speeders (2 strong) - 180
-Missile Launcher
Land Speeders (2 strong) - 180
-Missile Launcher
Land Speeders (2 strong) - 180
-Missile Launcher
HEAVY SUPPORT 335
Predator 85
-Heavy bolter sponsons
Vindicator 125
-Siege Shield
Vindicator 125
-Siege Shield
Total points 2500

1st off, on the speeders, if you're going to upgrade to missiles, then pay the extra 10 per and get MMs on them.

2nd, and this i think is more personal preference than anything, i'd use las/plas backs instead of tl las.

3rd, i don't find ven. to be worth it in normal marine armies, so i'd drop it down to a reg. dread to have the 60 pts it would cost to put MM on your speeders.

4th. I have never had too much luck with the predator, but YMMV. With the way 5th has been progressing, i've found a resurgence in the usefulness of the oft overlooked Whirlwind. The amount of times i've been able to blast light infantry off of objectives with these things is gross, Esp. when fighting armies that go to ground on objectives in combination with some form of Stealth to make them hard to shake. Also with dreads, vindicators, heck even missiles from the speeders, the role that that particular layout of predator would serve is already served, with redundancies even.


Hope that at least some of this helped!

To me your sterngaurd are useless with only 1 cm instead you could take another dread w/ PC, Forcing yourself to combat squad might not be the best idea but YMMV.

StarCraftKing wrote:To me your sterngaurd are useless with only 1 cm instead you could take another dread w/ PC, Forcing yourself to combat squad might not be the best idea but YMMV.

Naw dude, check my math, those dudes have 5 combi-meltas. What I was intending is for them to drop in and pop the Landraider or kill the Tyrant, etc.


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androcles138 wrote:1st off, on the speeders, if you're going to upgrade to missiles, then pay the extra 10 per and get MMs on them.

Well the reason I took the MLs is to balance out the list for anti-swarm, yeah I could see replacing the MLs with flamers, but that list is packed full of anti-armor already.

3rd, i don't find ven. to be worth it in normal marine armies, so i'd drop it down to a reg. dread to have the 60 pts it would cost to put MM on your speeders.

I've actually gotten ridiculous mileage from ven, imo it makes the dread so resilient.

4th. I have never had too much luck with the predator, but YMMV. With the way 5th has been progressing, i've found a resurgence in the usefulness of the oft overlooked Whirlwind. The amount of times i've been able to blast light infantry off of objectives with these things is gross, Esp. when fighting armies that go to ground on objectives in combination with some form of Stealth to make them hard to shake. Also with dreads, vindicators, heck even missiles from the speeders, the role that that particular layout of predator would serve is already served, with redundancies even.

I've thought long and hard (bow chicka bow wow) about the Whirlwind, but then I thought about my local group and we only have one piece of terrain that blocks los. Well, the reason I'm taking the Destructor is for xenos heavy infantry like 'Ard Boys and Tyranid Warriors, taking the Whirlwind just for the ignore cover and for the same price. That point is definitely be heard.