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I've been experimenting with bigger games lately, as well as playing to win. Both concepts have been very alien to me until now.

I'm looking for a way to field so many points without a veritable flood of boyz or vehicles on the board, and I think that battlewagons may be the best way to do this. However, I'm open to other suggestions, just not allies or forts.

Ork Army List, 2k points, Double Force Org

>1x Big Mek w/ KFF [85]
>1x Big Mek w/ Kombi-Skorcha, Bosspole [45]

>4x Loota Mob [300]
-5 Lootas

>6x Grot Bomm Launcha [210]
-Solo Squads
-One Shot, S8, TL large blast barrage weapon

>3x Dakkawagon Mobz [780]
-20 Shoota Boyz, 2 Big Shoota
-Battlewagon with Deff Rolla, Riggers, Big Shoota x3

>2x Burna Wagons [540]
-10 Burna Boyz
-Battlewagon w/ Rolla, Riggaz, Big Shoota

>Grot Mob [40]
-10 Grots, Runtherd

2000pts

The GBL are key to the list. Six AV10 vehicles with one shot barrage pie plates... they never fail to draw a *hail* of fire off of my other units. If I hide them out of sight, and/or spread them out, the enemy has to choose between targetting them with his long range or barrage weapons or targeting my main force of battlewagons. At only 35pts each I don't care if a few die, but with an S8 AP3 TL barrage pie plate, the other guy certainly does. They will force him to spread out his units to limit the damage, helping to dilute his force so my battlewagons can smash right through it, and can *smash* IG artillery and other such units which are the bane of my existance! This goes a long way towards helping my battlewagons get to the other side of the field and start smashing and shooting stuff.

Lootas provide heavy fire support, smashing skimmers and fliers in particular as the battlewagons and their cargo can handle tanks and infantry. Small squads is more points efficient dakka than large ones in my experience, due to being able to target more units, less chance of inflicting overkill, and more chance of *being* overkilled and so wasting their firepower.

The battlewagons charge down the map in a tight formation, far enough apart to prevent multiple hits from large blasts but close enough to get a forcefield. For the most part I intend for the boyz to stay on board the wagons and shoot, but they can get out to hunt troops while the wagon crushes things if needed

I'm considering swapping one Burna Wagon for a Tankbusta Wagon. Thats a lot of S8 shots - even if they're inaccurate as hell, they'll certainly hit *something*. I can split fire by using squig bombs to kill the nearest tank while shooting at a further one (I think, need to re-check glory hogs), and that volume of S8 is gonna freak some dudes out and so draw fire to this wagon and away from the others.

list sounds like good fun mate! but the burna wagons could need a big shoota or kustom megablasta mek each as the new FAQ doesnt let you hurt longer than the template can reach but when you got another profile in the same group as the mega blasta with 24¨ it lets you hurt that far
Todays rules are silly written like that.

Other than that.. maybe put the lootas into two groups of ten.. but Hey! that's just a personal opinion after my experience

I'd take those odd 5 lootas and make that burns squad 15 add the mek with kombi scorcha in it. Put the other mek with another bw so the enemy has to choose to get rid of the cover wagon or the burna wagon.

Other wise looks pretty good. I've found putting the lootas in bw's is good too. But there is a lot of drop pod flamer in my meta.

Also, I only run 15 loota sq. Over kill occasionally, but over kill is better than under kill. 5 lootas that roll 1 shot are doing nothing. 15 that roll 1 shot still get 5 hits 2-3 glance/pen(4+ wound).

Hold on, you're doing double force org and you're only taking 2 HQs??? Does that seem right to anyone?

Big Mek 2: I'd drop the Kombi-Scorcha and pick up the SAG.

Battlewagons: Drop the Grot Riggers, take Red Paint Job.

I'm leery on the Grot Bomm Launchas since they're one shot only.

Combine the loota mobs up a bit for more survivability. If all else fails, drop the GBLs and get more lootas!

Oddly enough I was planning on running a list very similar to this one. Although I have not looked at the forgeworld stuff at all. But I suppose the Looted Wagon is similar to grot bomm launcha. I will be trying to lay down pie plates at least. I am also putting the buggies in there because I will be getting them soon and want to play them.

HQ
Warboss, bike, pk, bp, cybork
Big Mek, Shokk Attack Gun, ‘eavy armor
Elite
10 lootas
Troops
5 nob warbikers, painboy, 2 pks, BP, cyborks, waaagh banner
Deff Dread w/ 2 big shootas
20 boyz, nob, bp, ‘eavy. 2 Big Shootas
20 boyz, nob, bp, ‘eavy. 2 Big Shootas
20 boyz, nob, bp, ‘eavy. 2 Big Shootas
Fast Attack
3 warbuggies w/ TL Rokkit Launchas
Heavy
Battlewagon, deff rolla, 2 big shootas
Battlewagon, deff rolla, 2 big shootas
Battlewagon, deff rolla, 2 big shootas
Looted Wagon w/ Boomgun, ‘ard case and 2 big shootas
Looted Wagon w/ Boomgun, ‘ard case and 2 big shootas
Total = 2000

I love the battlewagons and am looking to run 3 them for sure. And since my army is deathskulls I need to have my looted wagons.