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Hey guys, I was going for something a little different and need a few sets of eyes to help me get rid of some fat. There are a few bits of Wargear in there that's pretty much just to use up the last of my points. Feel free to cut it out, but please be so kind as to give an idea what to fill it with. Help me Dakka Dakka, you're my only hope!

1850 Hybrid IG (DT, ID, RR, Vets)

CHQ: 142

• JO- CCW, LP, ID
• x4 Lasguns/ Standard
• Chimera- ML, HB, Search Light

x3 Vet Sqd: 80 (240)

• x3 Meltas, Storm Bolter, Shotgun (gaks and giggles) DT

PLT 1: 334

• JO- Bolter, ID
• x2 Flamers
• x2 Lasguns
• Chimera- ML, HB, Search Light
• x2 Las/Plas Sqds

PLT 2: 334

• JO- Bolter, ID
• x2 Flamers
• x2 Lasguns
• Chimera- ML, HB, Search Light
• x2 Las/Plas Sqds

x2 IF Sqd: 181 (362)

• x8 Lasguns, Las/ Plas
• Chimera: ML, HB, Search Light

x2 Hell Hound: 116 (232)

• Search Light

Rough Rider Sqd: 61

• Vet SGT, x5 Lances/ LP

Bassy: 145

• Indirect, Improved Comms

Well firstly to have 3 vets you have to have the vets doctrine. Close order drill is a good idea, especally because I belive it is free, and it can help with the troops you drop.

Considder plasma vets for some of the squads, they cost the same and have more range and more shots at a Meq infantry unit, or TMC/DP. In my estimation the meltas are best used against tanks, and with all the laz cannons you should be taking with guard, only one melta gun vet squad should be necessary, plus more often than not, you wont be within 6in when you shoot the melta, so you might as well take the extra range and hope for a good roll.

I dont know that 75 troops at 1850 is enough, Id suggest dropping a vet squad or two and picking up more laz plas infantry units.

Improved coms on the bassilisk it questionable, its twenty points that could go elsewhere, like a lazcannon.

Why are all of your command squads in chimeras? It seems a little silly, I dont know why you would do that, you should use them as leadership, or as suicide squads. THat being said, dont use flamers in the squads, i dont think they will see any action, why would you charge a hoard of attackers with 5 guardsmen, they will get cut down like flies. Go with ither all laz guns or the ever popular 3 plasma guns and a medic to save the first overheat per turn. Also with the points you save from droping the three chimeras, pick up an armored fist squad or two. they are a good investment as a mobil squad of ten, and will function better than your command squads would.

However, since you seem fond of mobility, why not go mechanised?

Just some thoughts.

1)"to have 3 vets you have to have the vets doctrine"
Oversight fixed with editing button.

2) "Considder plasma vets for some of the squads..."
Considering... I have the models to do it, so not a problem at all.

3) "I dont know that 75 troops at 1850 is enough"
Actually, I'd count it as 60 troops since the vets are suicide. I don't figure them into my bullet sponge plan. Also, I agree with you on not enough...

4) "Improved coms on the bassilisk it questionable, its twenty points that could go elsewhere, like a lazcannon"
Do you think it's worth dropping the reroll since I'm really only using DT on those 3 vets? OK, I could do that no problem. As for it being on the bassy, it was the only vehicle not in the "line".

5) "Why are all of your command squads in chimeras?"
They are not "in" the Chimeras...The Chimera are Fire Support while the Command sqds are LD.

6) "It seems a little silly, I dont know why you would do that, you should use them as leadership, or as suicide squads."
Yeah, I know. LD in this case.

7) "Also with the points you save from droping the three chimeras, pick up an armored fist squad or two."
I already have 2, the most I can take with 2 Platoons...

8) "since you seem fond of mobility, why not go mechanised?"
Because my vets can't drop... I'm not really as fond of mobility as I am Chimeras and their

Ok, I'll drop the Comms +20, the SB's from the vets +15, the bolters and flamers from the PHQ's +26, for a total of 61 pts. I guess dropping the RR's and a couple of searchlights for another Bassy is an option. Hmm, I could also drop the CHQ Chimera and just go with 4 total. Thoughts on this?

Ok, implemented some changes and managed to up the troopers to 70 and put more Dakka on them thar Chimerae. I dropped 1 vet sqd, the Improved comms and the rest of the chubby stuff.

CHQ: 154

JO- CCW, LP, ID
x4 Lasguns/ Standard
Chimera- ML, HB, Search Light, Stubber

x2 Vet Sqd:75(150) DT
x3 Plasma & x2Shotguns (gaks and giggles)

PLT 1: 333
JO- LP/ CCW, ID
x4 Lasguns
Chimera- ML, HB, Search Light, Stubber
x2 Las/Plas Sqds

PLT 2: 428
JO- LP/ CCW, ID
x4 Lasguns
Chimera- ML, HB, Search Light, Stubber
x3 Las/Plas Sqds

x2 IF Sqd: 183 (366)
x2 Rocket/Plas
x2 Chimera: ML, HB, Search Light, Stubber

x2 Hell Hound: 116 (232)
Search Light

Rough Rider Sqd: 61
Vet SGT, x5 Lances/ LP

Bassy: 145
Indirect

Grand total of 1849 w/
70 troops, 7 AV 12, 5 Las/Plas, 2 Rocket/Plas

Thoughts...