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2015/03/28 12:01:12
Subject: SPECTRE: It's Out! Discussion and Potential SPOILERS
It took a reasonably long time from Bond to work though the chain to get to No 1 in the first set of Bond films.
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
Looks alright I guess - not much there to form an opinion with....
I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
His Master's Voice wrote: I don't think the name Blofeld is ever mentioned anywhere in the trailer (or the casting calls for the matter).
Indeed.
Also bear in mind that this is supposed to lead on from the loose ends of Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace, the prevailing theory being that Quantum are being run (directly or indirectly) by SPECTRE. So Bond has already gone through Mr Green and Mr White and both of their organisations, before being distracted by the events of Skyfall that hit a little closer to home. I fully expect this to pick up with Bond where Skyfall left him (more on his past), but the main plot as it were to lead on from QoS. Although the two may be connected.
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If its about SPECTRE Blofeld has to be at the top yes?
Though we might be talking about a sub boss. I wonder if this is during a one off stage to recruit Bond to SPECTRE before he becomes the primary protagonist against them.
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
As always, I only have one word to say: Yeaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
What's everybody got against turtlenecks? Great look.
Only the Roger Moore safari suit comes close to the turtleneck look.
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
I'm going into my cupboard right now to put one on!
Back OT is it just me or is the missing person in that photograph being set up as Blofled. I'm still going to watch it 14 times at the cinema, but this plot device seems to be getting signposted from miles away.
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
Back OT is it just me or is the missing person in that photograph being set up as Blofled. I'm still going to watch it 14 times at the cinema, but this plot device seems to be getting signposted from miles away.
I don't think they'd be that obvious, especially when you look at the trailers for Skyfall (almost anything in those happened in the first third of the film, the real meat of the story with Silva/M/Skyfall itself was barely touched on).
My first thoughts was that it was Bond's brother (him being the child on the left of the picture). I think there will be two strands to this plot, one being about Bond and the missing person from the picture and the fallout from Skyfall, the other focusing on the emergence of Spectre. The two may of course connect at some level or another, but I think it's too early to assume too much.
Back OT is it just me or is the missing person in that photograph being set up as Blofled. I'm still going to watch it 14 times at the cinema, but this plot device seems to be getting signposted from miles away.
I don't think they'd be that obvious, especially when you look at the trailers for Skyfall (almost anything in those happened in the first third of the film, the real meat of the story with Silva/M/Skyfall itself was barely touched on).
My first thoughts was that it was Bond's brother (him being the child on the left of the picture). I think there will be two strands to this plot, one being about Bond and the missing person from the picture and the fallout from Skyfall, the other focusing on the emergence of Spectre. The two may of course connect at some level or another, but I think it's too early to assume too much.
Got this dread feeling that Bond and Blofeld are going to be brothers Austin Powers style
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
Back OT is it just me or is the missing person in that photograph being set up as Blofled. I'm still going to watch it 14 times at the cinema, but this plot device seems to be getting signposted from miles away.
I don't think they'd be that obvious, especially when you look at the trailers for Skyfall (almost anything in those happened in the first third of the film, the real meat of the story with Silva/M/Skyfall itself was barely touched on).
My first thoughts was that it was Bond's brother (him being the child on the left of the picture). I think there will be two strands to this plot, one being about Bond and the missing person from the picture and the fallout from Skyfall, the other focusing on the emergence of Spectre. The two may of course connect at some level or another, but I think it's too early to assume too much.
Got this dread feeling that Bond and Blofeld are going to be brothers Austin Powers style
Yeah, even if he's not Blofeld, I've got a suspicion that Christoph Waltz' character will be related to Bond somehow.
Actually I thought it would turn out that Andrew Scott was his half-brother. It may be that the Christoph Waltz character knew his mother, though no direct relation.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: Got this dread feeling that Bond and Blofeld are going to be brothers Austin Powers style
That's about as good of a reason to think this won't be the case as you can get.
Bond's past is well known to him and everyone around him that matter. There's really no place for an ugly brother plot device anywhere near a Bond film and I'm going to assume people that wrote Skyfall know as much.
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote: Got this dread feeling that Bond and Blofeld are going to be brothers Austin Powers style
That's about as good of a reason to think this won't be the case as you can get.
Bond's past is well known to him and everyone around him that matter. There's really no place for an ugly brother plot device anywhere near a Bond film and I'm going to assume people that wrote Skyfall know as much.
You would hope so, but we know that Bond's parents died in a skiing accident...or did they?
Hopefully, we'll get the best Bond ever, and not something daft like his brother/father/second cousin twice removed etc etc turning up.
"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
SPECTRE is a criminal organisation in the James Bond-verse.
It stands for Special Executive for Counter-intelligence, Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion led by Ernst Stavro Blofeld. Dr. No was also a member of SPECTRE
Re the trailer: I can't say I'm bothered by the recent James Bond films. The only one that I thought was any good was Casino Royale. QoS was crap and Skyfall was...OKish. The villains just don't seem to have any appeal
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SPECTRE is a criminal organisation in the James Bond-verse.
It stands for Special Executive for Counter-intelligence, Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion led by Ernst Stavro Blofeld.
Dr. No was also a member of SPECTRE
Re the trailer: I can't say I'm bothered by the recent James Bond films. The only one that I thought was any good was Casino Royale. QoS was crap and Skyfall was...OKish. The villains just don't seem to have any appeal
Yeah, I was making a Mission Impossible joke there...
Having said that, I'm not sure I remembered what SPECTRE stood for, so thanks for that!
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SPECTRE is a criminal organisation in the James Bond-verse.
It stands for Special Executive for Counter-intelligence, Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion led by Ernst Stavro Blofeld.
Dr. No was also a member of SPECTRE
Re the trailer: I can't say I'm bothered by the recent James Bond films. The only one that I thought was any good was Casino Royale. QoS was crap and Skyfall was...OKish. The villains just don't seem to have any appeal
Feel the same way.
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SPECTRE is a criminal organisation in the James Bond-verse.
It stands for Special Executive for Counter-intelligence, Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion led by Ernst Stavro Blofeld.
Dr. No was also a member of SPECTRE
Re the trailer: I can't say I'm bothered by the recent James Bond films. The only one that I thought was any good was Casino Royale. QoS was crap and Skyfall was...OKish. The villains just don't seem to have any appeal
Feel the same way.
Agreed - I prefered the older stuff - but that might cos I am old :(
I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
It's funny you guys say that; Personally I think with Craig at the helm the last 3 films have all been among the best, Skyfall topping all the ones I've seen (most of them) and being one of my favourite films of all time.
Since Daniel Craig's dramatic entrance in Casino Royale, Bond has been a vulnerable tortured soul, carrying this through in Quantum of Solace and Skyfall. The latter turned back the clock as 007 returned to his family home in Scotland, giving rare psychological insight into a man who's remained a mystery for the best part of 50 years.
The just-released trailer for Spectre, an atmospheric, bleak and action-less 90 seconds, looks to be continuing that tradition. There were no explosions or gun shots in sight, but this teaser is loaded with intrigue and plenty to dig into for those Bond fans familiar with the early instalments revolving around sinister crime syndicate SPECTRE (Special Executive for Counter-intelligence, Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion, in case you didn't know).
Spectre's trailer sets its scene with a shot of the MI6 building still in ruins after the events of the previous film. Moneypenny hands over to Bond all that remains from Silva's assault on his ancestral home at Skyfall Lodge.
There's a charred photograph of a young Bond with a man and what looks like an older boy whose face can't be seen. And a certificate of temporary guardianship transferring a 12-year-old James from the care of his aunt Charmian into the care of Hannes Oberhauser. In Fleming's novel You Only Live Twice, it's revealed that Charmian briefly took care of Bond after his parents died in a mountain climbing accident.
Oberhauser, Bond's skiing instructor and surrogate father figure, was first mentioned in Fleming's Octopussy and later revisited in Charlie Higson's young 007 novel By Royal Command. It is, of course, common knowledge that Christoph Waltz is playing Franz Oberhauser, presumably the son of Hans.
However, Spectre's trailer (along with much online speculation) seems to make one thing abundantly clear: this film marks the return of Ernst Stavro Blofeld.
If Skyfall quickly swept the Quantum organisation under the carpet, then Spectre looks to have found a way to weave them back into Bond movie canon. Mr White (Jesper Christensen) is back, battered and bruised (by Bond? His puppet master?) in a secluded chalet with the answers to help unravel a fresh mission.
Bond fans who've seen Sean Connery's classic '60s outings will immediately recognise this octopus emblem signet ring as the mark of a Spectre agent.
It's the trailer's closing moments that really solidify Spectre's nod to its illustrious predecessors. Notes from the iconic theme music tinkle as Bond looks out over a long table with sinister suited types gathered. The head of the table? A man concealed from view, "Number 1", aka Blofeld, just as he was 50 years ago in the scene from Thunderball below.
"Welcome, James. It's been a long time. Now finally, here we are," says Waltz's shadowy villain. There's double-edged meaning here, with the character re-introducing himself to filmgoers after a 30-year absence (remember Roger Moore dropping him down a chimney?) and signalling an apparent reunion with Bond. Could they be brothers-turned-mortal enemies? Or are we being John Harrisoned here, with the name Oberhauser a misdirect to draw Bond out and into the crosshairs?
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Paradigm wrote: It's funny you guys say that; Personally I think with Craig at the helm the last 3 films have all been among the best, Skyfall topping all the ones I've seen (most of them) and being one of my favourite films of all time.
Well its films so its subjective - I miss the gadets and more girls.......... Plus I thought the "story" in 2 was a uncomfortable mix of the newer "grtitty" style and the older outlandish plot - the water stealing plot being especially poor. The Villian in 3 did not convince me either.
Personally I don't want to know anything more about Bond or his family - sounds terrible......
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I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
Since Daniel Craig's dramatic entrance in Casino Royale, Bond has been a vulnerable tortured soul, carrying this through in Quantum of Solace and Skyfall. The latter turned back the clock as 007 returned to his family home in Scotland, giving rare psychological insight into a man who's remained a mystery for the best part of 50 years.
The just-released trailer for Spectre, an atmospheric, bleak and action-less 90 seconds, looks to be continuing that tradition. There were no explosions or gun shots in sight, but this teaser is loaded with intrigue and plenty to dig into for those Bond fans familiar with the early instalments revolving around sinister crime syndicate SPECTRE (Special Executive for Counter-intelligence, Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion, in case you didn't know).
Spectre's trailer sets its scene with a shot of the MI6 building still in ruins after the events of the previous film. Moneypenny hands over to Bond all that remains from Silva's assault on his ancestral home at Skyfall Lodge.
There's a charred photograph of a young Bond with a man and what looks like an older boy whose face can't be seen. And a certificate of temporary guardianship transferring a 12-year-old James from the care of his aunt Charmian into the care of Hannes Oberhauser. In Fleming's novel You Only Live Twice, it's revealed that Charmian briefly took care of Bond after his parents died in a mountain climbing accident.
Oberhauser, Bond's skiing instructor and surrogate father figure, was first mentioned in Fleming's Octopussy and later revisited in Charlie Higson's young 007 novel By Royal Command. It is, of course, common knowledge that Christoph Waltz is playing Franz Oberhauser, presumably the son of Hans.
However, Spectre's trailer (along with much online speculation) seems to make one thing abundantly clear: this film marks the return of Ernst Stavro Blofeld.
If Skyfall quickly swept the Quantum organisation under the carpet, then Spectre looks to have found a way to weave them back into Bond movie canon. Mr White (Jesper Christensen) is back, battered and bruised (by Bond? His puppet master?) in a secluded chalet with the answers to help unravel a fresh mission.
Bond fans who've seen Sean Connery's classic '60s outings will immediately recognise this octopus emblem signet ring as the mark of a Spectre agent.
It's the trailer's closing moments that really solidify Spectre's nod to its illustrious predecessors. Notes from the iconic theme music tinkle as Bond looks out over a long table with sinister suited types gathered. The head of the table? A man concealed from view, "Number 1", aka Blofeld, just as he was 50 years ago in the scene from Thunderball below.
"Welcome, James. It's been a long time. Now finally, here we are," says Waltz's shadowy villain. There's double-edged meaning here, with the character re-introducing himself to filmgoers after a 30-year absence (remember Roger Moore dropping him down a chimney?) and signalling an apparent reunion with Bond. Could they be brothers-turned-mortal enemies? Or are we being John Harrisoned here, with the name Oberhauser a misdirect to draw Bond out and into the crosshairs?
As I've said before, if you put SPECTRE and Franz Oberhauser side by side to compare them, you'll notice that they both contain an E, an S, and an R.
Paradigm wrote: It's funny you guys say that; Personally I think with Craig at the helm the last 3 films have all been among the best, Skyfall topping all the ones I've seen (most of them) and being one of my favourite films of all time.
Well its films so its subjective - I miss the gadets and more girls.......... Plus I thought the "story" in 2 was a uncomfortable mix of the newer "grtitty" style and the older outlandish plot - the water stealing plot being especially poor. The Villian in 3 did not convince me either.
Personally I don't want to know anything more about Bond or his family - sounds terrible......
I'm in the same boat as you - the day Roger Moore returns to Bond in a safari suit, I'll weep with joy, but I love the new films as much as the old films. Probably more.
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"Our crops will wither, our children will die piteous
deaths and the sun will be swept from the sky. But is it true?" - Tom Kirby, CEO, Games Workshop Ltd
Legion: Dark Angels 
Great look.
