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Hello everyone!

Is anyone else on Dakka, like me, hyped for the new season of Game of Thrones? If so, what are you expecting this season?

For book fans - which cut characters will you miss most?

What do wish to happen, and more on topic...who will die this Season?

Depends on how Martin writes his last two books. If he writes his last two books. Which seems HBO will complete his last two "books" for him..

I see Jon living being the Red Lady is there
Stannis coming down south and take King's Landing
Walkers crashing the Wall and Jon delaying action to save Stannis butt from getting corn cobbed
Denaries coming across the pond to save everyone from the Walkers
Stannis dies
Jaimie kills Cersi
The Church goes to War/Crusade
Tyrion goes into Denaries Council
Dragons are controlled by Denaries effectively. She might have to bite an ear or two
Flint sails into Castle Rock and Levels IT like Charleston SC........wait...

We just can't wait. And we already know what happens i.e. read the books.

Out of curiosity Sigvatr,( since I'm waiting for the confirmation to that programme, you checked my essays for) is GoT a big thing in Germany? Do lots of people watch it? And btw-do you watch it in English, or dubbed?

I expect a asteroid hitting the planet killing everyone (finally) and no one would be surprised.

Overall I am really excited for his next book and season 5.

In the previous thread, spoilers from the book that have not happened yet were put in spoiler boxes to differentiate between spoilers from "This week's Show," for example.

That's all I have to add to this thread as I want nothing spoiled and am not reading gak.

This is just a friendly reminder to keep people from getting upset at you.

Hence the reason why I put a big SPOILERS next to the title of the thread. And don't worry, I'll be careful to use spoiler boxes.

Remember it was confirmed that season 5 will go off script, a bit like Walking Dead, metaplot will be similar but different characters will have very different fates to the books.

Expect to see book surviving characters die, and see doomed characters live.

Where will they fit Aegon, Euron, Vicarion... in (if they won't, the bastards...)

I don't want this ending in Dany getting the Iron Throne, because frankly I don't like her, and she's not the best of rulers - in a way she's very much like Robert - "winning is not the same as ruling".

I hope they keep Ser Barristan alive, and maybe get rid of Meryn Trant, never liked him that much.

Also, Jaime in the Riverlands anyone? :(

Going from the previews, it looks like Sansa is going to take the place of

I have a lot of faith in the TV show. Books 4 and 5 were really not that good, to be honest. However the show seems to have picked up on the shortcomings so far, so I am hoping the writers can continue to do the same.

I can foresee an extended role for Tyrion, compared to what he had in the 4th and 5th books.

As for Doomed characters living/unexpced characters dying, I can sorta see this. Only with Minor characters though. We've seen a few minor characters already omitted.

That Sansa angle would work for me. Sansa has always been a pretty terrible character, she can only improve.

 Artorias the Abysswalker wrote:
Out of curiosity Sigvatr,( since I'm waiting for the confirmation to that programme, you checked my essays for) is GoT a big thing in Germany? Do lots of people watch it? And btw-do you watch it in English, or dubbed?

It's a huge thing in Germany, but I assume that the books are more popular than in the US whereas the series is a bit less popular due to it only being available at premium services (that cost at least 35€ (!!!) per month). Most people watch it on illegal-ish online streaming sites. My wife and I have a permanent US VPN with a Netflix subscription, but since it's not available via Netflix...we watch it via one of said premium services, in English of course, no dubs. A lot of Germans watch it in English as German synchronizations tend to be on the horrible end of things.

Dany suuuuuuucks. She'd be the worst ruler of all times if she got the Iron Throne. Both of us cheer for Tyrion, of course. Daenarys on the Iron Throne with Tyrion actually ruling? Yes, please.

Episodes 1-4 were leaked online, and maybe 5 and/or 6 as well.

This changes very little about the method of most people watching the show.

Any indication of the Greyjoy plotlines from the books yet? The fact that a couple major book characters who are engaging in activites which are rather important to the plot of the series are entirely absent from the tv show is somewhat worriesome to me.

It is the most pirated show ever, after all. HBO doesn't care, though, as everyone still buys the dvds when they come out and their ratings are still sky-high. HBO execs have gone on record with comments that pretty much state that they consider pirating to be free advertisement rather than a theft of some sort.

Which is why it might even be a deliberate 'leak' to encourage hype.

 Howard A Treesong wrote:
Which is why it might even be a deliberate 'leak' to encourage hype.

I have heard this as well. Would make plenty of sense to me.

Episode 1 was slower, but still pretty fantastic.

Tormund continues to scare the beejeezus out of me.

I think there's still a handful of characters who are basically going to become 'plot-proof', namely:








Okay, literally, if you don't want the mother of all spoilers spoiled, don't freaking click this!!



4.

From what Ive been reading its all but confirmed that the Greyjoy subplots from the book have been all but written out of the show in favor of Dorne. Heres hoping the writers bleed out in a freak pencil-sharpening accident, or theyre forced to double back onto that plotline when the season ends and they still arent any closer to the next book in the series from Mr. Martin.

 Sasori wrote:
Going from the previews, it looks like Sansa is going to take the place of

Spoiler:

Lady Stoneheart- The Zombie Catlyn Stark

I have a lot of faith in the TV show. Books 4 and 5 were really not that good, to be honest. However the show seems to have picked up on the shortcomings so far, so I am hoping the writers can continue to do the same.

I can foresee an extended role for Tyrion, compared to what he had in the 4th and 5th books.

As for Doomed characters living/unexpced characters dying, I can sorta see this. Only with Minor characters though. We've seen a few minor characters already omitted.

I just watched the first episode. They've already axed a very significant character. A certain silver haired teenager.

Not that I can exactly blame them. Towards the end of ADWD I started to feel a little overloaded on the different plot lines.

I may be wrong, but I wouldn't be a bit surprised if

So no one's talking about GoT?

I know it's been a little slow this season, but there's some really interesting stuff happening IMO, especially for those who have read the books and are familiar with certain fan theories (spoilers ahead).



Anyway, the show is definitely veering from the books now, but IMO it seems like the writers have made improvements overall.

 Jihadin wrote:
Depends on how Martin writes his last two books. If he writes his last two books. Which seems HBO will complete his last two "books" for him..

I see Jon living being the Red Lady is there
Stannis coming down south and take King's Landing
Walkers crashing the Wall and Jon delaying action to save Stannis butt from getting corn cobbed
Denaries coming across the pond to save everyone from the Walkers
Stannis dies
Jaimie kills Cersi
The Church goes to War/Crusade
Tyrion goes into Denaries Council
Dragons are controlled by Denaries effectively. She might have to bite an ear or two
Flint sails into Castle Rock and Levels IT like Charleston SC........wait...

Currently the show is now moving away from the books (thank god as the last few books were to myself and friends dismal shadows of the earlier ones with loads of useless new characters and plots). I can't see GRM actually finishing anything and if it is - will be hugely influenced by the show - which is now much better than the source material.

What I would like

Kill Jon - seriously get rid of him and all the dull people at the wall.
Let the ice monsters come sweeping down rather than apparently getting lost in snowdrifts or whatever they have been supposed to be doing, lots of battles and stuff.
Dany reaserts herself - much as she is currently doing in the show, pops over to Westros - burns ice things a bit, decides its really not worth the bother and establishes her own realm in Meerem and the other slaver cities - burns and/or puts in the fighting pits those who are against her.
Tyrion sits on her council - has fun and dies the way he always wanted.
Sansa gets a happy ending
Aria gets a plot that actually has an impact on the rest and kills Cersi

What I think we will get is pretty much as the OP states.

Regarding the White Walkers, I predict that they will play a small part this season (remember Jon and Torumund discussing the wildlings who escaped to Hardhome? When Jon and Mr T. go to retrieve them by ship expect...something.) But I think next season Winter will finally be here. The show is catching up to GRRM fast. (Already has for a handful of characters) and season 6 will use a lot of Winds of Winter material.

What they've done with Jorah Mormont is interesting...they're clearly merging the character arcs of two, maybe three characters from the books into one to streamline things. Jorah himself, Jon Corrington (who was cut for the show) and possibly...[SPOILER FOR TODAY'S/YESTERDAYS EPISODE and a spoiler ].



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By season 7, they're going to have to bring in GRRM as a full time writer (there's no way he'll finish the last book Dream of Spring in one year), unless he's willing to give them a crude outline of the ending and the creative freedom to fill in the rest. (The shows already veering off at right angles to the books in some parts).

Or perhaps instead of a season 7 (which WILL be almost completely based on unreleased material), they'll wait a couple years, and finish the series off with a feature film (of comparable length to LOTR). IIRC GRRM has indicated that's how wants to end the show. (It's an excuse so he has more time to finish the books I think.)

As I understand it GRM has already given them that outline and they will decide how much to fllow ......

Good things they have changed already:

 Mr Morden wrote:


Kill Jon - seriously get rid of him and all the dull people at the wall.

Disagree. His character keeps getting better, and it's pretty clear he's going to be the resurrected Azor Ahai. Especially since Jon's sword, Like Azor Ahai's, was essentially "reborn." Although, interestingly, and not that I think about it...if we look at the sword reborn portion....it could also be Jaime or Brienne.....

Also, this season has been fantastic so far. And last night's episode was great.

I feel kinda disappointed that 'Lady Stoneheart', to avoid book spoilers, I'll just say, doesn't seem to be an important enough character to be in the show.

Anyway, once the show is concluded I would fething love for a feature film focusing on Roberts rebellion, featuring Eddard, Lyanna, Rickard and Brandon Stark, Robert and Stannis Baratheon, Rhaegar and Aerys Targaryen, Barristan Selmy, Jaime and Tywin Lannister, etc.

It would be perfect for a prequel film. All the groundwork and mystery regarding the infamous X + Y = Z theory will have been concluded in season 7 and everyone will know the truth. It would be to the GOT show, what the Hobbit trilogy was to the LOTR. (

I'm happy about it. Magic in GoT has always been less shiny and fantasy-ish than in regular Fantasy novels. I didn't like the part in the books and am happy the series doesn't follow.

I do hope for them to just kill the young Starks. They bore both of us to death and that magic-leaf-child stuff is just stupid.