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2015/09/08 14:59:05
Subject: Theory for the Orks' accent
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Gavin Thorpe
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Low Gothic is represented by English. Since Orks speak Cockney English, they must speak some form of Cockney Gothic.
We know Orks have their own language(s). So Orks must've learnt Gothic somehow. Obviously, the Imperium does not give them lessons.
We must assume that the Imperium has its own version of chavs and cockneys.
Humans like to watch TV right? IN the 40k universe the only way to distribute programmes planet-to-planet is via shipping, not the internet or the airwaves.
I suppose Orks learn to speak Gothic by raiding these human vessels and watching human TV. And they happen to raid the Cockney part of the Imperium, or somehow most of their bootleg human TV comes from there, and that's how Orks picked up the accent.
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2015/09/08 15:14:10
Subject: Theory for the Orks' accent
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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Orks have their own language? News to me.
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2015/09/08 15:16:08
Subject: Theory for the Orks' accent
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Ruthless Interrogator
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So basically what the Junkions from transformers did then?
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Space Marines: Jacks of all trades yet masters of GRAV CANNONS!!!.
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2015/09/08 15:19:10
Subject: Theory for the Orks' accent
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Gavin Thorpe
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Yes. Yarrick was said to be able to speak it. Automatically Appended Next Post:
what did the junkions do?
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2015/09/08 15:37:46
Subject: Theory for the Orks' accent
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Orks do indeed have their own language. The stories Engine of Mork and Evil Sun Rising are both written in translated Ork rather than the traditional 'Orks speaking low gothic.' While some of the typical nuances are seen, those among ork society that consider themselves "high class" (mainly Deathskulls and Bad Moons) speak in a somewhat more posh manner.
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2015/09/08 15:52:20
Subject: Theory for the Orks' accent
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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They'll say its their own language, but the truth is they looted it.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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2015/09/08 15:54:05
Subject: Theory for the Orks' accent
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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They always print things in red letters to read faster.
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2015/09/08 16:02:22
Subject: Theory for the Orks' accent
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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No, thats why ork eyes are red.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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2015/09/08 17:38:13
Subject: Theory for the Orks' accent
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Gavin Thorpe
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They are? I thought they were yellow.
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2015/09/08 17:40:42
Subject: Re:Theory for the Orks' accent
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Every bit of artwork I've seen shows red eyes.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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2015/09/08 17:42:24
Subject: Theory for the Orks' accent
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Ruthless Interrogator
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Automatically Appended Next Post:
what did the junkions do?
I suppose Orks learn to speak Gothic by raiding these human vessels and watching human TV. And they happen to raid the Cockney part of the Imperium, or somehow most of their bootleg human TV comes from there, and that's how Orks picked up the accent.
They learned to speak English by listening to American TV and radio, like you are supposing the orks did.
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Space Marines: Jacks of all trades yet masters of GRAV CANNONS!!!.
My Star Wars Imperial Codex Project: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/641831.page
It has 7 HQs, 2 Troop types with Dedicated Transports, 5 Elite units, 5 Fast Attack units, 6 Heavy Support units, 2 Formations with unique units not in the rest of the codex, and 2 LOW choices.
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2015/09/08 17:44:01
Subject: Theory for the Orks' accent
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Gavin Thorpe
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jareddm wrote:Orks do indeed have their own language. The stories Engine of Mork and Evil Sun Rising are both written in translated Ork rather than the traditional 'Orks speaking low gothic.' While some of the typical nuances are seen, those among ork society that consider themselves "high class" (mainly Deathskulls and Bad Moons) speak in a somewhat more posh manner.
so it is written in propah English?
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2015/09/08 17:47:52
Subject: Theory for the Orks' accent
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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They sound like English soccer hooligans from the 1980s because that's what they're based on. It's done because it's funny, nothing more.
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2015/09/09 06:14:25
Subject: Theory for the Orks' accent
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Most Orks probably don't even speak their Low Gothic variant, cuz they don't really want to talk to 'oomies, just smash them. Many probably lack the intelligence to learn it. Only the Big Bad Important Orks and Blood Axes have any reason to learn Gothic. Their accent could be a combination of the fact that Orks are not very diligent students and their vocal cords being different from ours (just spitballing here).
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2015/09/09 07:23:55
Subject: Theory for the Orks' accent
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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DoomShakaLaka wrote:
They learned to speak English by listening to American TV and radio, like you are supposing the orks did.
So the orks learned to speak by watching TOWIE?
Someone please accelerate the heat death of the universe ... please.
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2015/09/09 07:54:11
Subject: Theory for the Orks' accent
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Mighty Vampire Count
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Psienesis wrote:They sound like English soccer hooligans from the 1980s because that's what they're based on. It's done because it's funny, nothing more.
And the Orcs from Lord of the Rings speak in a very similar manner - same idea I think...........
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2015/09/09 07:59:50
Subject: Theory for the Orks' accent
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Hallowed Canoness
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Psienesis wrote:They sound like English soccer hooligans from the 1980s because that's what they're based on. It's done because it's funny, nothing more.
Mhm. What they do not sound... by any stretch of the imagination... is cockney.
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2015/09/09 21:34:50
Subject: Theory for the Orks' accent
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Tunneling Trygon
Carrickfergus, Northern Ireland
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From my notebook of random fanon ramblings:
Orks speak a form of Low Gothic due to the tiniest bit of psychic diffusion happening between their Waaagh! and the Warp, so they are able to speak and write the most widely-spoken language in the Imperium, even if not very well. The Eldar subconsciously decipher almost any language, spoken or written, through a mixture of mind-reading, psychic prediction, and sheer intelligence (although this is not always instantaneous) and can use magic to project their voices to be understandable to almost any sapient species (not as in speaking in their minds, though; this is why they can talk to, say, Tau). The Tau have highly sophisticated translation technology, as do the Necrons (though the Tau need to study a language for some time before they can crack it). The Imperium itself has a wide variety of languages, but Gothic is the "spoken word of The Emperor" or whatever, so its teaching is enforced, even if only as a second or third language in some places.
Also, my fanon is that there is a connection between Orks, Tau, Eldar and humans; possibly Old One or ancient Eldar dabbling (obviously the Orks and Eldar were both created by the Old Ones, so they're sort of cousin races). My Eldar have theories about this. It's why everyone shares the same rough body plan and they all have very similar psychology.
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2015/09/09 21:36:26
Subject: Theory for the Orks' accent
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Mr Morden wrote: Psienesis wrote:They sound like English soccer hooligans from the 1980s because that's what they're based on. It's done because it's funny, nothing more.
And the Orcs from Lord of the Rings speak in a very similar manner - same idea I think...........
Might have something to do with lots of the actors coming from New Zealand.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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2015/09/10 22:36:37
Subject: Theory for the Orks' accent
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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chromedog wrote: DoomShakaLaka wrote:
They learned to speak English by listening to American TV and radio, like you are supposing the orks did.
So the orks learned to speak by watching TOWIE?
Someone please accelerate the heat death of the universe ... please.
No, they learned to speak, and got their love of violence, from watching the back-catalogue of EastEnders.
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2015/09/13 06:41:23
Subject: Re:Theory for the Orks' accent
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Gavin Thorpe
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idk, but its really funny anyway Automatically Appended Next Post: chromedog wrote: DoomShakaLaka wrote:
They learned to speak English by listening to American TV and radio, like you are supposing the orks did.
So the orks learned to speak by watching TOWIE?
Someone please accelerate the heat death of the universe ... please.
If you hate TOWIE so much you need to Exterminatus large parts of the world.
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2015/09/13 15:39:14
Subject: Theory for the Orks' accent
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Ruthless Interrogator
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chromedog wrote: DoomShakaLaka wrote:
They learned to speak English by listening to American TV and radio, like you are supposing the orks did.
So the orks learned to speak by watching TOWIE?
Someone please accelerate the heat death of the universe ... please.
Dont worry I'm working on it.
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Space Marines: Jacks of all trades yet masters of GRAV CANNONS!!!.
My Star Wars Imperial Codex Project: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/641831.page
It has 7 HQs, 2 Troop types with Dedicated Transports, 5 Elite units, 5 Fast Attack units, 6 Heavy Support units, 2 Formations with unique units not in the rest of the codex, and 2 LOW choices.
‘I do not care who knows the truth now, tomorrow, or in ten thousand years. Loyalty is its own reward.’ -Lion El' Jonson |
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2015/09/13 17:05:59
Subject: Theory for the Orks' accent
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Mighty Vampire Count
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Grey Templar wrote: Mr Morden wrote: Psienesis wrote:They sound like English soccer hooligans from the 1980s because that's what they're based on. It's done because it's funny, nothing more.
And the Orcs from Lord of the Rings speak in a very similar manner - same idea I think...........
Might have something to do with lots of the actors coming from New Zealand.
not really they are like that in the book
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"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
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2015/09/19 23:40:38
Subject: Theory for the Orks' accent
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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Bad moons Boss Nazdreg was known for speaking low Gothic pretty clearly, for an Ork.
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2015/09/20 19:16:15
Subject: Theory for the Orks' accent
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Psienesis wrote:They sound like English soccer hooligans from the 1980s because that's what they're based on. It's done because it's funny, nothing more.
No such thing. We've plenty of football hooligans though
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2015/09/27 16:03:46
Subject: Re:Theory for the Orks' accent
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Flashy Flashgitz
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Orks have been around since the War in Heaven, so it's around 60 million years. The had to communicate somehow during that long time. Just open the codex, there is a picture of the orkish glyphic writing system (writing comes after language, never before). We even have some rky words there: wazza - quick, wurr - strange/weird, snik - cut/kill, zag - lightning and so on.
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2015/09/27 21:25:35
Subject: Theory for the Orks' accent
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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orks could have reached a human civilisation with different classes who spoke different accents. Naturally the orks chose the accent of the humans they viewed as the best.
I know it doesn't make much sense but this is the best I could come up with as a in game explanation.
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2015/10/01 05:59:01
Subject: Theory for the Orks' accent
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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JamesY wrote: Psienesis wrote:They sound like English soccer hooligans from the 1980s because that's what they're based on. It's done because it's funny, nothing more.
No such thing. We've plenty of football hooligans though
Like I said /engage_autotranslator:Target_language>Americanese// soccer // /endtranslation hooligans.
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2017/04/16 10:17:30
Subject: Theory for the Orks' accent
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Gavin Thorpe
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oldzoggy wrote:orks could have reached a human civilisation with different classes who spoke different accents. Naturally the orks chose the accent of the humans they viewed as the best.
I know it doesn't make much sense but this is the best I could come up with as a in game explanation.
hahaha Automatically Appended Next Post: Furyou Miko wrote: Psienesis wrote:They sound like English soccer hooligans from the 1980s because that's what they're based on. It's done because it's funny, nothing more.
Mhm. What they do not sound... by any stretch of the imagination... is cockney.
what do they sound like then?
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2017/04/16 13:24:37
Subject: Theory for the Orks' accent
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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Orks had their own language for eons both oral and written. There's been many cases of Orks speaking the human language as well. Some seem to learn the human tongue pretty fast. Ghazzy was speaking Gothic to Yarrick when on Golgotha just after his first war on Armageddon. Since he had no prior wars with humans before I'd say it didn't take Ghazzy long to figure it out.
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