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Do the Necrons ever fight the Dark Eldar? I would have thought that the only reason the two races would meet is either slave hunting trip gone wrong or trophy hunting but even then very scarce, and Do the Eldar even bother with the Necrons? Or do they just leave them too it generally. Is there anyone else who if they found them would be all "feth that!" and carry on?

the first DOW expansion had eldar working hard to stop the necrons from waking up. Dark eldar would probably try to flee since they gain little from fighting necrons. no soul means nothing to gain from killing and torturing necrons and that doesn't help them fill their she who thirsts quota.

Dark Eldar would probably right Necrons on the occasion. They, like their Eldar cousins, are ancient enemies of the Necrons, and I'm sure they would take advantage of an opportunity to severely undermine them... even if it's just for laughs.

They might capture a few for the arena, not to torture them but to use them against souled creatures that happen to have a robot phobia.

I think Tyranids actively avoid necrons since there is no biomatter to absorb

Eldar are the ancient enemies of the Necrons, so yes, the Dark Eldar have plenty of reason to go fight them. They, especially the more traditional Kabals, probably know full well that should the Necrons succeed in regaining their ancient power, things will be looking rather bad for them.
Of course, the Dark Eldar are raiders, and not very well suited for full-scale warfare against a foe like the Necrons, but they could actively try to disrupt Necron activities where possible, and cooperate with the Craftworld Eldar for larger operations.

Plus most Dark Eldar leaders are probably smart enough to work out that letting the Necrons kill all their slave producing races is bad.

I'm liking this, i didn't think there'd be any reason but ancient grudges is always good. With Nids do they eat all life on the world or the world itself or both? Because if they eat worlds then they'd still be a nuisance for the Necrons. With Pure Eldar i feel they'd only ever fight them if absolutely necessary or if they could do some major damage.

The DE might fight them because they have something an archon wants. Archons live a long time and sometimes collect weird stuff, like birds...

Heamonculi might want to experiment on them. They stole and entire planet (like the planet itself) infested with tyraninds and brought into the webway were it now orbits Comorragh. Heamonculi are effectively immortal and very bored so they are always on the look out for new things to play with.

They could be awakened on a planet the DE were already attacking. Unlike CWE, DE enjoy fighting so they may fight it out for a bit till they get what they came for.

Tyranids don't just take a planet's biomass but also rip away any useful mineral deposits they can easily access (buildings, megastructures, surface ore deposits, etc) - that's actually the primary function of pyrovores.

So a tomb world - at least an active one - would represent, whilst lacking biomatter, a potential glut of exotic minerals.

It's odd the Necrons are getting involved in everybody's business NOW, of all times.

If they wait a little while the Tyranids/Daemons will mow over and exterminate most of the universe, leaving it to the Necrons after all is said and done.

I've only been able to come up with a few reasons for them to be awake.

I think the Silent King is doing this to throw another wrench in the mix and stop the Tyranids from mowing over the Tau, which were developed as vessels for a reverse-biotranference, so the Necrontyr can have souls again.

Since the Silent King is basically the Necron version of the Emprah, and destroyed his control over the race, he's hoping when all the dynasties are awakened, they'll listen to him and try to return to flesh.

I also believe that Anrankyr and Imotekh work for him, based on how their personalities are directly in line with his desires.
I do not know if A and I know that they are working for him.

The reason the individual dynasties do not go back to sleep is because they fear the flayed curse, and further insanity from what they've already lost.

 JimOnMars wrote:
They might capture a few for the arena, not to torture them but to use them against souled creatures that happen to have a robot phobia.

For that to happen a necron warrior would have to be seriously messed up, it's phase protocols and self destruct protocols would have to fail, or the dark eldar would have to conquer an entire tomb world (not likely given their style of warfare and the scant benefits of wasting thousands or millions of dark eldar lives with no reward). I'm not saying this is impossible, just improbable.


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 Billagio wrote:
I think Tyranids actively avoid necrons since there is no biomatter to absorb

Tyranids avoid necrons because they don't like null field matrices, which are buried in particularly important core worlds. The matrices basically create a super strong shadow in the warp which blocks out daemons and frightens the hive mind.


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To answer the OP's question, I know of only one piece of necrons vs dark eldar fluff, which detailed a raiding party gone wrong as you predicted in your post. In 799 of m41, a bunch of dark eldar arrived in the Bardric System to kill a bunch of orks, but the necrons of the Charnovokh dynasty had risen and killed the entire ork population. The necrons then massacred nearly the entire dark eldar raiding party.

Necrons would eventually seek the dark eldar if they wanted to completely lock down the galaxy under their control. Probably require they ripe the webway open with Dolmen gates and ferret them out.

Anrakyr-the-Traveller wrote:

Tyranids avoid necrons because they don't like null field matrices, which are buried in particularly important core worlds. The matrices basically create a super strong shadow in the warp which blocks out daemons and frightens the hive mind.

Aren't the Nids supposed to be THE shadow in the warp? Shadows jumping at shadows then.

 vorrax-ghul wrote:

Anrakyr-the-Traveller wrote:

Tyranids avoid necrons because they don't like null field matrices, which are buried in particularly important core worlds. The matrices basically create a super strong shadow in the warp which blocks out daemons and frightens the hive mind.

Aren't the Nids supposed to be THE shadow in the warp? Shadows jumping at shadows then.

It's not exactly the same as the Shadow in the Warp, though. It blocks out the Warp almost completely, in that area, and makes it virtually impossible for any Warp beings to maintain a grip on that area of the Materium (it's similar to the Shadow, but it just goes about it in a different manner; being purely physical).

The DE would probably fight the necrons just so they don't eventually rise up and boot them out of the Webway

In the "Fear the Alien" Anthology, there's an intestine little story called Mistress Baeda's Gift, or something like that. Well this Kabal's archon tries to impress a girl by taking something from a world. Little does he kmow that it's occupied by necrons, who kill the rest of his Kabal while he barely manages to escape. He puts up a good fight though.

Anyone who can provide fear and blood is fair game for the Dark Eldar. The Necrons provide neither. They could still fight over artifacts, Webgate/Dolmen access or other treasures that both value. Presumably if some important personage of one side was taken by the other a raid to free said personage could occur. Your reasons to have these two fight can be developed from any plausible motivation.

I've never heard of Tyranids harvesting inanimate matter as Iocarno24 claims. Pyrovores certainly destroy inert matter, but that's more of a supporting function (defeating tool-using sentients) than a harvesting imperative. The 'Nids seek and harvest biomass to feed/grow the hive fleets. They can get it from water and dirt because those hold organics in suspension. Possibly even coal and diamonds, which are organically based, would interest them. But iron? Silicates? Radioactives? Not so useful.

Dark Eldar might fight Tyranids for survival, if they were stuck on a world targeted by a hive fleet. I suppose they might fight to preserve certain web portals or immovable resources. They might try to capture Tyranid creatures for the arena or the Flesh Pits, but would probably be disappointed by their lack of individual sentient emotion, which the DE need to feed their empty souls.

Then too, the Dark Kin are by nature raiders. Unless forced they won't fight unless odds are hugely in their favor. Given the choice they'll hit and run, fading away when resisted and striking where they're not expected. That's hard to do against Tyranids who are connected by the hive mind and tend to hit a world with crushing force, devour it and move on.

Generally the Dark Eldar would rather flee than fight a Tyranid force unless hey thought they could profit or win glory by it. I'd structure Tyranid-Dark Eldar backstory around those motivations.

My two cents.

123ply wrote:
In the "Fear the Alien" Anthology, there's an intestine little story called Mistress Baeda's Gift, or something like that. Well this Kabal's archon tries to impress a girl by taking something from a world. Little does he kmow that it's occupied by necrons, who kill the rest of his Kabal while he barely manages to escape. He puts up a good fight though.

I love this, he did it to impress a girl.

But Warboss Gorhack you make good points and it seems that really the only way the DE would face necrons would be by accident or for treasure (and maybe to impress the odd girl )

Nids would fight the necrons if the tomb would was full of life, but it's more a nuisance for them rather than they want to fight them.

That's how I see it for those two anyway.

It's important to remember Dark Eldar are more like pre-fall Eldar then the craftworlders, some Dark Elder even lived through it and still live. As such, any enmity between Eldar and Necrons would be shared equally between the Dark Eldar and the Craftworlders.

Also note Necrons can feel pain and loss now that their leadership has emotions. And I would put good money on that if any race would that could make a Necrons suffer, it would you of be a Very old Dark Eldar noble with an aeons old grudge.

 ALEXisAWESOME wrote:
It's important to remember Dark Eldar are more like pre-fall Eldar then the craftworlders, some Dark Elder even lived through it and still live. As such, any enmity between Eldar and Necrons would be shared equally between the Dark Eldar and the Craftworlders.

Also note Necrons can feel pain and loss now that their leadership has emotions. And I would put good money on that if any race would that could make a Necrons suffer, it would you of be a Very old Dark Eldar noble with an aeons old grudge.

The Necrons had been gone for 60 million years, long beyond the memory of even the oldest Eldar. The Eldar do fight the Necrons because they have a grudge against them or anything, but simply because the Necrons are an enemy from ancient myths that have suddenly become real. Actual Eldar knowledge of the Necrons is probably very limited. As such, fighting them is more in the interest of the legends and mythology-obsessed Craftworlders, rather than the Dark Eldar, who care pretty much only about the fulfillment of their own desires and preventing themselves getting bored with their eternal lives. That said, there are a some very traditionalist Dark Eldar Kabals who would probably make a point of fighting the Necrons. And of course, even the most selfish Dark Eldar can see that the Necrons are a pretty scary threat. The Dark Eldar have plenty of reasons to get in a fight with Necrons, but not to the same extent as the Craftworld Eldar.

Would a DE force be able to capture a Necron?

Presumably a Necron could choose to phase out if he saw he was going to be captured [don't think this has ever occurred in any background though].

SideSwipe wrote:
Would a DE force be able to capture a Necron?

Presumably a Necron could choose to phase out if he saw he was going to be captured [don't think this has ever occurred in any background though].

The Imperium managed it so the Dark Eldar could if they wanted to..............

It made sense with the old fluff for Dark Eldar to fight Necrons. With the new Necron fluff not so much.

The Necron's and C'tan aren't really the heralds of doom that they used to be,