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2024/02/08 22:42:21
Subject: Toys with war gaming or terrain uses
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Fixture of Dakka
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Miguelsan wrote:When I have to go to the airport I drive next to a huge petrochemical complex. I'd build one for 28mm gaming if my wife were not to kill me after seeing how much space I'd need.
M.
By and large, in Battletech no less than in modern warfare, the LAST place you'd want to actually fight the battle FOR the petrochemcial plant is IN the petrochemical plant. One stray shot and two major things happen.
1) You destroy the very thing you're fighting over, and
2) Everyone involved in the fight dies.
Lose/lose all around.
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CHAOS! PANIC! DISORDER!
My job here is done. |
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2024/02/08 23:43:06
Subject: Toys with war gaming or terrain uses
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Brigadier General
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Vulcan wrote: Miguelsan wrote:When I have to go to the airport I drive next to a huge petrochemical complex. I'd build one for 28mm gaming if my wife were not to kill me after seeing how much space I'd need.
M.
By and large, in Battletech no less than in modern warfare, the LAST place you'd want to actually fight the battle FOR the petrochemcial plant is IN the petrochemical plant. One stray shot and two major things happen.
1) You destroy the very thing you're fighting over, and
2) Everyone involved in the fight dies.
Lose/lose all around.
Right on all counts, but you may be overestimating the role of logic and practicality in Battletech or any of my Sci Fi gaming for that matter.
When original Necromunda is one of your core gaming aesthetic touchstones, you want chemical plant style terrain everywhere!
Safety be darned!
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2024/02/09 01:37:05
Subject: Toys with war gaming or terrain uses
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Fixture of Dakka
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Eilif wrote: Vulcan wrote: Miguelsan wrote:When I have to go to the airport I drive next to a huge petrochemical complex. I'd build one for 28mm gaming if my wife were not to kill me after seeing how much space I'd need.
M.
By and large, in Battletech no less than in modern warfare, the LAST place you'd want to actually fight the battle FOR the petrochemcial plant is IN the petrochemical plant. One stray shot and two major things happen.
1) You destroy the very thing you're fighting over, and
2) Everyone involved in the fight dies.
Lose/lose all around.
Right on all counts, but you may be overestimating the role of logic and practicality in Battletech or any of my Sci Fi gaming for that matter.
When original Necromunda is one of your core gaming aesthetic touchstones, you want chemical plant style terrain everywhere!
Safety be darned!
Safety had nothing to do with it. If you destroy the chemical plant, odds are you've destroyed the very thing you came to the planet FOR. Meaning any and all your losses were for nothing. This is ESPECIALLY true in the later Succession Wars, when the technology to rebuild the chemical plant may not even exist anymore. Only the Clans and the Wobbies went in for wholesale destruction, and the Wobbies ultimately lost, while the Clans really lost themselves in the process.
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CHAOS! PANIC! DISORDER!
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2024/02/09 02:14:43
Subject: Toys with war gaming or terrain uses
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Brigadier General
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Vulcan wrote:
Safety had nothing to do with it. If you destroy the chemical plant, odds are you've destroyed the very thing you came to the planet FOR. Meaning any and all your losses were for nothing. This is ESPECIALLY true in the later Succession Wars, when the technology to rebuild the chemical plant may not even exist anymore. Only the Clans and the Wobbies went in for wholesale destruction, and the Wobbies ultimately lost, while the Clans really lost themselves in the process.
Again, that all may be true!
And yet I return you to my earlier statement:
(edited for maximum clarity)
Eilif wrote:
..you may be overestimating the role of logic and practicality in... my Sci Fi gaming...
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2024/02/11 03:31:55
Subject: Toys with war gaming or terrain uses
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Battleship Captain
The Land of the Rising Sun
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You are also forgetting about all the times somebody in Battletech decided it was a great idea to get into a firefight in the middle of a jumpshipyard, or a mech factory. Destroying the thing you wanted to control is a common theme in Btech.
Or turn half a continent into a sea of flames to mess with the OpFor (IIRC this was Kurita trying to flush some Davions)
Real world logic, and mechwarriors do not go together.
M.
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Jenkins: You don't have jurisdiction here!
Smith Jamison: We aren't here, which means when we open up on you and shred your bodies with automatic fire then this will never have happened.
About the Clans: "Those brief outbursts of sense can't hold back the wave of sibko bred, over hormoned sociopaths that they crank out though." |
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2024/02/11 20:32:21
Subject: Toys with war gaming or terrain uses
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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Also, chemical plant terrain just looks cool.
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2024/02/11 21:30:24
Subject: Toys with war gaming or terrain uses
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Brigadier General
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That's basically my thought process.
Speaking of which...
Rolled out another last night. The ConCor/Heljan N Scale Cambria Butane Storage Tank kit.
This old kit assembled easily but was required some modification because in the supplied ladders (I used them as the railings) were clearly HO, not N scale. Luckily the intended railings had very close stanchions so I cut them in half and glued them on sideways to make a properly scaled ladder. Also I did away with the lower level walkway to make the structure seem taller.
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2024/03/07 09:40:16
Subject: Re:Toys with war gaming or terrain uses
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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2024/03/07 12:44:12
Subject: Toys with war gaming or terrain uses
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Brigadier General
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I bet they're Matchbox size. So generally good for 20mm.
The first vehicle might be good for 15mm. Even though I think it looks like a garbage truck it it is also a passable futuristic vehicle.
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2024/03/07 16:06:09
Subject: Toys with war gaming or terrain uses
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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Yeah I like the truck the most of them since it's not a real vehicle, chop off the gun and it looks like a fairly decent near future truck for that scale.
Reminds me of the now-ubiquitous Lightyear truck.
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2024/03/07 18:26:17
Subject: Toys with war gaming or terrain uses
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Brigadier General
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Kid_Kyoto wrote:Yeah I like the truck the most of them since it's not a real vehicle, chop off the gun and it looks like a fairly decent near future truck for that scale.
Reminds me of the now-ubiquitous Lightyear truck.
That's a good comparison. Looking closely, it really looks like they may have taken the mold for a garbage truck and tooled it deeper in some areas, but I do like the look.
Here's roughly the same deal for M1 Abrahams tanks.
https://www.amazon.com/Military-Toy-Aircraft-Carriers-Playsets/dp/B0C2LHSF59/
If the measurements are correct, it looks like the size is halfway between 10mm and 15mm. Tempting...
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2024/03/08 06:28:15
Subject: Re:Toys with war gaming or terrain uses
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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3" transforming Star Wars Vulture droid.
https://www.amazon.com/STAR-WARS-Squadron-Vulture-Mystery/dp/B0B29MNQ7Y/
5" Y Wing, probably too small for 28mm but it is one of my favorite ships.
https://www.amazon.com/STAR-WARS-Galaxy-Squadron-Leaders/dp/B0BRYGRPPS/
I've seen these used for Grot tanks.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BTPH4SRN/
Medieval Siege Stuff most about 10cm/4"
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CQY6383R/
Now this is interesting, 1/72 tanks and artillery, but around 5"-6" long which is about the right size for a Rhino or Chimera.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B93PFMYB/
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2024/03/08 12:37:53
Subject: Toys with war gaming or terrain uses
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Brigadier General
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Very interesting. There's some other potentially useful tanks and AFVS at the link you provided for the self propelled artillery piece. Unfortunately some are very poor because they appear use the same 2 track chassis even when the length varies widely.
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2024/03/08 13:41:57
Subject: Re:Toys with war gaming or terrain uses
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Sinister Chaos Marine
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2024/03/09 09:35:04
Subject: Toys with war gaming or terrain uses
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
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NotGrot tanks are so cool looking!
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2024/03/29 05:47:23
Subject: Re:Toys with war gaming or terrain uses
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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Odd request.....anyone see or know where to get Buzz Lightyear toys/miniatures that would fit 28-32mm???
Oops....let me rephrase....actual miniatures of the toy story Buzz, not anything from the movie that came out.
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