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SDCC had some new info about the seriel TV series coming out but more importantly it has a title and they showed the new ship: U.S.S. Discovery NCC-1031.
Reminds me of this concept art from the Star Trek Phase 2 show that never happened.
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I like the older design style, assuming this series takes place that far back in the ST timeline. It looks very much like a cross between a Klingon and a Federation starship. The music itself certainly also had something of a Klingon tone to it. Makes me curious where they're going with this. Do we have any further info on the show's premise?
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Same, unavailable. However, I managed to find a "reaction" video that wasn't some squeaky gimp squealing into the microphone and saw it anyway...hmm.
Not what I was expecting, mainly because that design was rejected for a reason - it looks questionable even by the standards of weird 70's sci-fi. It also makes me wonder why they went with such an outlandish, by Trek standards, design - it has elements that evoke 23rd century style like the Oberth, Constitution Refit, Excelsior etc which fits the rumoured late TOS Movie-era setting, but there's no in-universe reason for a hull & nacelle geometry like that, meaning either whoever chose the design has terrible, awful taste or they wanted something unusual and "unique" to attach some in-universe justification to for other changes/additions.
Christ I hope this isn't another Stargate: Universe.
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To be fair, Federation Starship design in general makes little sense. You have to get to the Defiant before seeing a hull that makes sense structurally, and the Voyager before seeing a traditional "saucer" design that isn't completely senseless. EDIT: I've always seen ships like the Enterprise-B and the Enterprise-D as acquired tastes. For their graceful lines, they make 0 sense in terms of construction, and just seem awkward. I got used to them years ago, but later designs like the Nebula, Enterprise-E, Defiant, and Intrepid class ships were all much better.
Of course, I also think STO's starship designs is the one area that has been done excellently and that game largely abandoned the wonkies aspects of Federation ship design, and only revives them occasionally to pay lip service.
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Looks like a pretty cool ship to me, recognisably ST, a bit different to what we've seen before. I have high hopes for this series, ST really belongs on TV rather than in the cinema, I reckon.
It is possible that the CGI was just a quick model that they created to get an idea for how the ship should look and the final show will be better animated. Maybe they will figure out how to write Star Trek instead of creating generic action movies with emotional characters that happen to be named Spock.
LordofHats wrote: To be fair, Federation Starship design in general makes little sense. You have to get to the Defiant before seeing a hull that makes sense structurally, and the Voyager before seeing a traditional "saucer" design that isn't completely senseless. EDIT: I've always seen ships like the Enterprise-B and the Enterprise-D as acquired tastes. For their graceful lines, they make 0 sense in terms of construction, and just seem awkward. I got used to them years ago, but later designs like the Nebula, Enterprise-E, Defiant, and Intrepid class ships were all much better.
Of course, I also think STO's starship designs is the one area that has been done excellently and that game largely abandoned the wonkies aspects of Federation ship design, and only revives them occasionally to pay lip service.
Oh aye, it's senseless from an RL perspective, but in-fiction there are reasons for it and reasons why it changed when it did(even though, as you say, the designs really changed because taste in sci-fi aesthetics changed) and if this is meant to be a 23rd century design then in-fiction there's no reason for it to be shaped like that. Which is why I have the horrible suspicion they're going to insert some special snowflake nonsense in to justify a "more modern & gritty" storyline, to put the crew in a situation where most of the screen time is focused on "character drama" like SGU did(so, Star Trek: Lost in Space Because of Our Experimental Warp Drive That Needs a Funny-lookin' Hull Design or the like) - it's cheap to make(mostly internal shots reusing the same interior sets, little need for expensive aliens or battles, few location shoots) and there's a certain brand of sci-fi TV execs out there who seem to believe the only way to do "serious" stories is with a crew of growly po-faced humour-devoid social incompetents that spend most of their screen time squabbling with each other like they're still in high school.
I very much agree with the STO comment - it's a huge shame that game is such a transparent rip-off microtransaction machine, most of the "modern" designs are stunning and I love the shift to the cleaner off-white & almost-black grey scheme. The Odyssey especially is a worthy new Enterprise, I'd watch the gak out of a TV show set aboard that ship.
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Yodhrin wrote: The Odyssey especially is a worthy new Enterprise, I'd watch the gak out of a TV show set aboard that ship.
The T6 flagship variants are even better;
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And they actually managed to make the Scimitar looked Romulan, and that's a feat!
God damn it, you're going to make me reinstall the game and dig out my VoiceAttack profiles again(because playing a Star Trek MMO isn't nerdy enough, I have abilities and weapons bound to voice macros so my neighbours can wonder why I'm bellowing "Red Alert! Fire Phasers! Emergency power to shields!" at 2am ).
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"The language of modern British politics is meant to sound benign. But words do not mean what they seem to mean. 'Reform' actually means 'cut' or 'end'. 'Flexibility' really means 'exploit'. 'Prudence' really means 'don't invest'. And 'efficient'? That means whatever you want it to mean, usually 'cut'. All really mean 'keep wages low for the masses, taxes low for the rich, profits high for the corporations, and accept the decline in public services and amenities this will cause'." - Robin McAlpine from Common Weal
Well wasn't there a rumor that they want to do different stories each season or something? Kind of like Slasher or American Horror Story, but with Star Trek?
That was the early rumour, but apparently wasn't true. The newer rumour is that it will include more than one crew (so presumably more than one ship), in an ongoing story arc.
Looks like they added a saucer section to the starfleet logo.
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If the first teaser for the Star Trek TV series left you gagging for more details, then this huge batch of intel that just arrived should satisfy your Trek thirst.
Talking to press at the Television Critic's Association tour, showrunner Bryan Fuller dropped a massive amount of new information on the show. As rumors have suggested, Star Trek Discovery returns to the franchise roots and takes place in the Prime Universe - not the JJ Abrams-created Kelvin Universe. That's sure to please Trek fans, but that's not even the juiciest bit: it's set a decade before the Five Year Mission depicted in the first TV series.
It's a prequel of sorts, then. It makes sense as the premise is based around an incident and event hinted at in the original series. Speculation has run rampant on what that might be with fans debating the likelihood of the Four Years War or the Romulan War playing a part, but Fuller refused to confirm what that throwback plotline will be. He did however reveal that it will be delivered across a 13-episode serialized season.
“To do this series, we’re telling a much more serialized story, to dig deep into a very tantalizing storyline." That storyline will also be deeply connected to the show's lead character: a female lieutenant commander of the U.S.S. Discovery. "We have a character who’s on a journey, and in order to understand something that is alien, she first has to understand herself.”
Part of the show's mission to branch out farther into new territory will also see a major perspective shift. Previous Trek series focused on the captain as leader, but this time Fuller says the commander will be the star of the show. "To see a character from a different perspective on the starship — one who has a different dynamic relationships with a captain, with subordinates, it gave us richer context.”
He adds that in order to maintain the diversity of the original series, Discovery will "absolutely" include a gay character and "new exciting aliens and also new imagining of existing aliens."
On that note, pre-existing characters from Trek TV aren't being completely ruled out, yet it's important says Fuller for the first season to establish "the greatness" of a fresh cast before any familiar faces return. Who might he be tempted to bring in? Spock's mom. With the promise of more details later this year when the show enters production, it already feels like Fuller is taking the Star Trek brand into a familiar yet fresh direction.
Star Trek Discovery arrives on CBS in January 2017.
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