Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

My friend and I are going to a tournament in a couple weeks, doubles, 1000 points per player, 1 LoW is allowed, wondering if the lists will synergize well, any feedback is appreciated.
Eldar CAD
HQ- 165
Farseer Skyrunner
Warlock Skyrunner
Troops-243
3 units of 3 Jetbikes with Scatter Lasers
Low-295
Wraithknight, not sure if he should have the wraith cannons or sword and board
Aspect Host Formation-295
3 units of 5 Swooping Hawks, 3 Exarchs, 1 with the Sunrifle, 1 with the Hawks Talon
Total-998
Tau CAD
HQ-50
Ethereal
Troops-180
2 units of 10 Fire Warriors
Fast Attack-110
2 units of 5 Pathfinders
Riptide Wing-660
3 Riptides, each with ion accelerator and stim injectors
Not sure about the 2 squads of 10 fire warriors, maybe there's a better option for 2 min squads of 5 and put the 90 points somewhere else?

Not sure what models you have, but off the top of my head it seems like Warp Spiders would make for a better all rounders aspect host. The lone warlock seems out of place too. I'd lean towards sword and board On the WK but that's just a hunch.

As for the tau, if your buddy has the models I think a MarkO and marker drones would be a lot more effective than the pathfinders and ethereal. If the tides don't have EWO already they should.

So possibly drop the Warlock and switch the Aspect Host to a Warp Spider one with the leftover points?

The commander is probably going to be a no go, but what about dropping the pathfinders, taking the two strike squads down to 5 guys a piece, dropping stim injectors from a single riptide, and its ion accelerator and running a drone network of marker drones for 224 points? Then there would also be enough points to throw EWO on the Riptides as well.

Those Riptides need EWO for that sweet, sweet intercept.
He could drop the Fire warriors down to about 6 per unit and add a 3rd Pathfinder unit. Should look like this:

HQ___50
Ethereal

Troops___108
2 units of 6 Fire Warriors

Fast Attack___165
3 units of 5 Pathfinders

Riptide Wing__675
3 Riptides, each with ion accelerator, stim injectors & EWO
----------998pts

For the Eldar, Yes drop the Warlock, trade the Hawks for Spiders and put Scatter lasers on the WK. Since you have no way to handle a big Death star CC unit, I'd go with Sward-n-Board for the WK
those changes bring you to 998pts

-

So would 3 units of pathfinders be better than a marker drone network and one stock riptide?

There is no such thing as a "stock" Riptide. EWO is a must take upgrade and Stims are really close to auto-take as well. But, yeah the Marker Drone net is probably better than the Pathfinders to support the Riptide Wing.

-

The drone network with all marker drones or 3 marker drone units is just far and away better than pathfinders. The only "hurdle" is the slightly higher cost at 16ppm over 11. but for that you get +1T improved armor, JSJ, relentless, interceptor, jink/gtg, outflank, just so so much. THey are even the same bs (3) when 2 or more units of them still exist.

so you could riptide wing (+EWO + stims) drone net (3/4 marker drone teams) and an allied detachment of 1 hoverdrone etheral and 1 strike team for 999 pts, bound


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Or monster mash it up with 1 riptide wing 1 ghost keel wing with carefully selected upgrades

Heck, now that I think about it, I just take Riptide wing & Drone Net w/ 4untis of 5 Drones. Make 3 of the units have 4 Markers & 1 Gun Drone, with the last unit with 4 Guns & 1 Marker Drone. That way you have 1 mostly Marker drone unit for each Riptide, with a Gun Drone to Split fire, and 1 spare unit to Split fire a Marker light and harass fire the Gun Drones

For the Drone Net I would just go complete marker drone squads. The Split Fire rule is fun, but its not worth mixing up your squads purpose just to use it.

Also I would go with 5 squads of 4 instead of 4 squads of 5. The +1 BS rule requires at least 2 units be alive, so having more units on the table will prolong their utility.

yukondal wrote:


Also I would go with 5 squads of 4 instead of 4 squads of 5. The +1 BS rule requires at least 2 units be alive, so having more units on the table will prolong their utility.

The formation is 4 squads of gun/marker/shield drones. the 5th unit wouldn't be a part of the formation, and only get the +1bs, none of the other special rules. Certainly can take them in your other Cad/allied/etc but not add them into the formation