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Pardon, but as it seems AoS has replaced all the Old Warhammer fantasy boards, I wasn't quite sure where to ask this question. If i'm in the wrong place, by all means please point me in the right direction.

So Witch Hunters - general stereotype being that they dislike witches/warlocks/heretics/etc. and probably unconsciously reach for their pistols even in the presence of a Collegiate wizard.

The Light Order - often deemed the wisest (in the human world at least) of people to live, the influence Hysh on their psyches (or perhaps its because their psyches are this way they can influence Hysh) making them some of the most logical, calm, and clear-minded people in the whole world.. Wielding the Lore of Light which can be generally seen as directly anti-Chaos.....

So, what would be a general stereotypical response/interaction between Witch Hunters and the Light Order?

I know the various pieces of lore say that amongst the -Common Folk-, its the Gold and Jade Orders that receive the least amount of suspicion since they deal in things that the common folk can understand -> Trade, Goods, Farming, Childbirth, etc.

But amongst Sigmar's devoted Witch hunters..... does the Light Order bear the same amount of suspicion as say...the Grey Wizards...or the Amethyst for that matter?
   
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Of course not! Grey and Amethyst you burn immediately. Light just get unrelenting suspicion. Remember, those too quick to kill may draw Khorne's attention, so best to get rid of them too.

On a more serious note, the "Witch Hunters" are not a single organization and do not share the same belief or methods. They range from officially sanctioned members of the Church of Sigmar to radical doomsdayers. More educated hunters would be much more likely to recognize the usefulness of Light wizards and much more likely to be able to distinguish true threats and taint whereas fringe zealots would likely purge first and ask questions never. Indeed, different factions of hunters are likely to clash and may very well spill blood over dogma and what is acceptable.

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 jmurph wrote:
Of course not! Grey and Amethyst you burn immediately. Light just get unrelenting suspicion. Remember, those too quick to kill may draw Khorne's attention, so best to get rid of them too.

On a more serious note, the "Witch Hunters" are not a single organization and do not share the same belief or methods. They range from officially sanctioned members of the Church of Sigmar to radical doomsdayers. More educated hunters would be much more likely to recognize the usefulness of Light wizards and much more likely to be able to distinguish true threats and taint whereas fringe zealots would likely purge first and ask questions never. Indeed, different factions of hunters are likely to clash and may very well spill blood over dogma and what is acceptable.



Ah I see, I got a little thrown by the description I read for Victor Saltzpyre , the Witch Hunter from the game Verminitide.

Additionally, his lack of objections towards working with other races separates him even further from his fellow members, even if he draws the line at not allying with anything outright evil or daemonic. In Victor’s eyes, the end justifies the means, and he is ultimately willing to fight alongside anyone as long as they are not apparent enemies of Sigmar and the Empire.


While it does fit with what I assumed and what you stated, that Witch Hunters would probably make the "friend or foe" decision based on their own individual experiences, the fact that his fellows (however defined), might look a bit askance at him for working with say a Waywatcher seems to imply that there is a general sentiment or stereotype running through these peoples heads.

Is it something similar to say the Inquisitors in 40K I wonder?
   
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Well it's justified suspicion, in both fantasy and 40k.

Despite being light they still use magic which draws it's power from chaos. Light is anti-chaos in the sense that a gun is anti-gun maker, you're just fighting fire with fire. Well, hell fire.

Give "Van Horstmann" a read when you can. Not all is right in their hidden lair of light.



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Baron Klatz wrote:
Well it's justified suspicion, in both fantasy and 40k.

Despite being light they still use magic which draws it's power from chaos. Light is anti-chaos in the sense that a gun is anti-gun maker, you're just fighting fire with fire. Well, hell fire.

Give "Van Horstmann" a read when you can. Not all is right in their hidden lair of light.





Already did. And i'm not knocking the justified suspicion aspect, but rather how that eventually effects behavior.

The denizens of Warhammer Fantasy always seemed....a little bit more Reasonable than their 40K cousins....just a little though
   
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Consider that the average Warhammer human is an illiterate peasant faces with constant threats from inhuman and supernatural menaces and has no understanding of why or how any of it works. All they know is that that, if they are lucky, they will live a hard life of labor. Superstition and fear runs rampant. Even the nobles are little better informed, and they may tend to stray towards Chaos in search of decadent pleasures. The ecclesiarches of the Church of Sigmar range from corrupt nobility eager only to expand their holdings, to noble priests genuinely concerned about their flocks, to crusading zealots intent on purging heresy. The witch hunters, generally, represent the more radical inquisitorial elements and the zealots, many of whom may very well be considered heretics by the Sigmar traditionalists.
Since the Colleges bear the endorsement of the Emperor, the Church of Sigmar would likely be much more inclined to accept sanctioned practitioners, with proper oversight, of course. Rustic witch hunters would no doubt see this as yet another sign of the corruption rampant in the Empire and rail against such witchcraft, oblivious to the advantages offered by trained wizards. In turn, local lords may be concerned about instability and react with hostility both to the rabble raising agitators and the sorcerous types that inspire such reactions. And as the bickering, accusations, and political intrigues fly, the beastmen watch from the darkness with eyes like yellow flame and the orcs muster their hordes.

-James
 
   
 
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