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We have the greatest fans in this or any other galaxy. In appreciation of the fans, we wanted them to be the first to know the title of the next chapter in the Skywalker saga: STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI.
THE LAST JEDI is written and directed by Rian Johnson and produced by Kathleen Kennedy and Ram Bergman and executive produced by J.J. Abrams, Jason McGatlin, and Tom Karnowski.
STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI is scheduled for release December 15, 2017.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
...... for a brief moment wondered if it might even be Leia and then.....
*aside from all the previous spoofs and jokes in this area.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
I gotta say, I am not in love with this name. It is the first time a noun has been reused in a star wars title, and will be the 3rd time the title has referred to Luke in some way.
It's not a bad name, it's just not.....special.
Having said that, it would seem to imply that the ways of the Sith & Jedi have finally fallen and the Force has opened up to new ways of being taught
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Playing Devil's Advocado for a moment, let's not forget that 'Jedi' can also be used in the plural sense. So it may not necessarily refer to Luke or Rey, but the last generation of people taught as Jedi as a whole. At which point it could equally be about Ren.
Luke dies, Rey and Ren remain the last people taught the Jedi ways, but not enough to pass it on, bam, The Last Jedi.
Paradigm wrote: Playing Devil's Advocado for a moment, let's not forget that 'Jedi' can also be used in the plural sense. So it may not necessarily refer to Luke or Rey, but the last generation of people taught as Jedi as a whole. At which point it could equally be about Ren.
Luke dies, Rey and Ren remain the last people taught the Jedi ways, but not enough to pass it on, bam, The Last Jedi.
Yeah, we really need Luke not to die in this. It would seem a bit systematic, especially if Leia dies in 8 or 9, which almost guaranteed at this point.
The name is about what I expected. Given what happened with Episode 7 I expect the trailer to drop in 2 weeks. Which means theres probably a spot for it in the Super Bowl.
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Galef wrote: and will be the 3rd time the title has referred to Luke in some way.
If it refers to Luke.
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Galef wrote: and will be the 3rd time the title has referred to Luke in some way.
If it refers to Luke.
How could it not refer to Luke?
I am not saying it "exclusively" refers to Luke. Just how "A New Hope" also refers to the rebellion and "Return of the Jedi" can also refer to Anakin turning good, both also refer to Luke on the surface.
As of the end of 7, Luke is absolutely the Last Jedi. The title has to refer to him, although it could also include Rey
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I'm actually mildly curious as to why the title text is red. Since kyber crystals change colour to match the user (when initially found), a force users saber colour actually has meaning. Most light side users have blue sabers while dark side ones have... red. Perhaps it's nothing but red is definitely a symbolically important colour re force users and the change is not an accident. /end wild speculation.
Or does the title just mean "Luke dies at the end" ?
That's what I'm thinking happens...
There has been a lot of speculation about Luke being offed in this one... I wonder, even if that had originally been the plan, if it might have changed in light of Carrie Fischer's passing. They're need to kill her off now, and killing off Luke as well means going into the 3rd movie with none of the original crew remaining (sidekicks don't really count) which would have to be slightly nerve-inducing for the people in charge.
Having said that, Rogue One seems to have just proved that a Star Wars movie can be successful without those characters being involved, so removing both Leia and Luke in Ep 8 would make Ep 9 the 'next generation' movie and let the new characters stand on their own feet.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
Wait... not sure if serious. Lucas should stay in his retirement home.
Poor ignorant guardsmen, it be but one of many of the great miracles of the Emperor! The Emperor is magic, like Harry Potter, but more magic! A most real and true SPACE WIZARD! And for the last time... I'm not a space plumber.
Apparently there is a YT meme of recording your kids' reactions to "I Am Your Father" and I watched a bunch of those vids recently ... so I heard the scene over and over again. So yeah I am guilty of making fun of the whiny No Nooo delivery but Hamill really punches out those two previous lines "He told me enough. He told me you killed him." - really, pitch perfect stuff.
Hearing that scene numerous times in a row really made me think about it again, especially what Hamill was trying to get across. The total contempt and hatred is the obvious layer, of course - this is, after all, Luke's first big moment of temptation. But what I had never thought about before is how naive Luke is in that moment: for him the world is totally black and white so when he spits those lines at Vader he is entirely righteous. We should hate bad guys, right?
But that worldview is demolished by Vader: "No! I am your father." And Luke just crumbles as we hear the most chilling and relatable rendition of Vader's theme ever.
If Vader really wanted to turn Luke then this was a huge mistake. Luke's facile righteousness gave him "permission" to feel hatred and anger toward Vader. That would have been a great basis for Luke's fall. Instead, Vader made Luke rethink the simplistic worldview of good versus evil - perhaps there could be evil in good people and good in evil people.
Hamill doesn't get much praise for his performance of Luke but there are some great subtleties in ESB, stuff you don't see from him in either ANH or RotJ. If it hadn't been such a frustrating way to end TFA, I think we'd appreciate him more as an actor just looking at his reaction to Rey and looking for that nuance in his earlier performances, too. But it really was an irritating way to end a movie that already refused to tell us much of anything.
Thinking about things. Logically speaking, Chewbacca is probably the one single character that will likely never die, as long as new Star Wars films are being made.
He's completely, 100% always recastable and has already been established as being, say, 100 years old, in the films themselves. That's without going into EU stuff.
Chewie could really very much be the one consistent thread throughout the films.
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