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been ambling about the Inter-Webs and this card seems to be popping up a lot

I can see it's use but points-wise it's quite expensive for crew, is there something I've overlooked ?

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Outflanking

It's expensive, but powerful, especially if you combine it with Gunner.

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So 9 points lets you potentially exhaust 2 focus tokens from opponents?

Wha?

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 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
So 9 points lets you potentially exhaust 2 focus tokens from opponents?

Wha?


It's more 9 points lets you strip the focus token then take a second shot at the now-defenceless ship.

It's a good card but I'm not sure such a heavy investment in points and slots is worth it for that particular combo.
   
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For a point less you get Palpatine.

And focus-less doesn't mean defenceless. He might still have an evade, a Palpatine die-mod, autothrusters...

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 Crazy_Carnifex wrote:
It's expensive, but powerful, especially if you combine it with Gunner.


I can see that, but just get the feeling it's one of those cards that will cause your opponent to not focus if at all able, which I can see the advantage of but still 4pts and then 5pts on the Gunner seems a lot

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 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
So 9 points lets you potentially exhaust 2 focus tokens from opponents?

Wha?


3+ focus tokens.

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On its own, Hotshot Copilot is pretty good but where it becomes really powerful is when it is combined with other cards that depend on Focus tokens. Suddenly Juke is guaranteed to force damage through onto the opponent and becomes a re-usable Crackshot. Sensor Jammer is guaranteed to reduce damage because your opponent will have no Focus tokens left to spend to counter it.

This combo works best on high PS ships, preferably with a turret. Rear Admiral Chiraneau in popular for the Empire while Han can work well for the Rebels.

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 Peregrine wrote:
 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
So 9 points lets you potentially exhaust 2 focus tokens from opponents?

Wha?


3+ focus tokens.


That's assuming that the ships you fired on had not already fired, hence used their focus tokens legitimately; and that they still had it when came time to fire at you.

Personally, if I see those two crew together on a ship, there is a strong chance that I will focus (pun not intended) fire that nice, juicy piece of MOV. Again, this is purely speculative, but those ships tend to have very few evade dice. Spending an extra 10% of your list on it is icing on the cake, no?

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 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
That's assuming that the ships you fired on had not already fired, hence used their focus tokens legitimately; and that they still had it when came time to fire at you.


Being able to fire doesn't necessarily mean spending a focus token legitimately. If you roll zero {eye}s you're still spending your focus token. And that's potentially happening with multiple ships. The ship with HSCP might not be able to take advantage of multiple no-focus targets, but the rest of your list might.

Personally, if I see those two crew together on a ship, there is a strong chance that I will focus (pun not intended) fire that nice, juicy piece of MOV.


That's generally what they want you to do. Put all your effort into chasing down the big brick of HP (which, being a PS 10 turret ship with boost, is not that easy to catch) so that their ace gets into endgame untouched. You might get some MOV out of it, but you're a lot less likely to win the game.

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I see you use a lot of qualifiers like "might" and "likely."

So let me ask you this: would you do it?

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 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
I see you use a lot of qualifiers like "might" and "likely."


Well yes, because few things in X-Wing are automatic. If you're playing against a Dengaroo list with overclocked R4 then HSCP isn't very helpful. So of course, in evaluating a card that is highly dependent on various metagame and strategic decisions, there are going to be qualifiers instead of absolute certainty.

So let me ask you this: would you do it?


Do what?

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Rock a Rey, a Han or a Chiraneau with HSCP and Gunner.

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I definitely plan to try out Chiraneau with HSCP & gunner
   
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 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
Rock a Rey, a Han or a Chiraneau with HSCP and Gunner.


Rey, no. Rey needs Kanan to make the title work, so there's no room for the combo.

RAC, possibly. Some people have been playing it locally and it's interesting. Not 100% sold on it, but I think it can work.

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I give you the MaaRAC list:

99 points
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Rear Admiral Chiraneau (63)
VT-49 Decimator (46), Veteran Instincts (1), Gunner (5), Hotshot Co-pilot (4), Darth Vader (3), Engine Upgrade (4)

Maarek Stele (36)
TIE Defender (35), Juke (2), TIE/x7 (-2), Twin Ion Engine Mk. II (1)
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View: http://xwing-builder.co.uk/view/643793/maarac
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I chose Maarek Stele for the Defender partly for the PS advantage and partly because I figured RAC w/ engine upgrade is probably not going to be taking many TLs (or at least not holding them for Vessery to use). And for 1 point more than a Glaive, I reckon his ps & pilot skill is a bargain. (Ryad is good too for the same points, but doesn't take advantage of the token stripping... I think I'd give this an edge over a mirror-ish match with Ryad)

Vader is there to kill Soontir or Fenn Rau... as much as I don't like giving my opponent MOV points, it seems like a better choice than rebel captive or any of the other crew options.



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And another idea:

99 points
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Gamma Squadron Veteran (29)
TIE Bomber (19), TIE Shuttle (0), Veteran Instincts (1), Lightweight Frame (2), Hotshot Co-pilot (4), Operations Specialist (3)

Maarek Stele (35)
TIE Defender (35), Juke (2), TIE/x7 (-2)

Colonel Vessery (35)
TIE Defender (35), Juke (2), TIE/x7 (-2)
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Gamma vet shoots first (aiming to miss) so as to trigger OpSpec to give Maarek the focus he didn't have because he took a TL on whatever Vessery was going to shoot. Hotshot strips the first focus, Maarek (if necessary) strips the 2nd and Vessery cleans up.

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It bears testing out. My friend wants to saunter over to the Rebel side for a little bit, I might borrow his Deci.

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