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The worm continues to turn

Not only are GW 'supporting' Adepticon (no idea what the definition of supporting it actually is. Financial? Not calling it names? Some kind of ultimately needless official sanctioning? Who knows!)....but they're sending Design Studio staff to run seminars..

And said Seminars? Are going to include sneaky peaky at upcoming Studio, not Forgeworld goodies for the first time in a long, long time.

So, you Colonial Devils you, we'll be expecting our Glorious British Efforts at Weekenders and that to be reciprocated with top notch reporting from those of you attending.

Or there'll be consequences*






*Being British, consequences will largely take the form of witty snubs, drive-by mild disapprovals, and a withholding of new Red Dwarf episodes.

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Ha! I'm on a waitlist to try and get in a painting seminar run by the well know Duncan. Would love to have gotten in but those spots filled up quick. Hell, all the 30k events sold out in literally 5 minutes of registration going live.
   
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Ah, well.

Trick there is bribery.

I happen to know a man who knows a man.

I'm told a pair of jackets or waterproof cagoules are a good offering to Duncan.

But he doesn't like them too thick, so Parkas are right out.

You just need to give him.....two thin coats

*exits stage left*

   
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Ramsden Heath, Essex

They were there last year IIRC, but with a more low key presence.

A full GW stand sounds like a good idea.

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Is this a joke? First of Rules Writing? Like really? Then it's with Robbin Cruddace? Well this should be interesting.

Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.

Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".  
   
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 notprop wrote:
They were there last year IIRC, but with a more low key presence.

A full GW stand sounds like a good idea.


The last time that AdeptiCon was at the other hotel, they had 2 or 3 authors doing signings. They have had a Forge World booth for at least the last 3 years (I only stared going 3 years ago).

It's great that they are doing seminars, though. Too bad I couldn't get into one. Someone go and report back!

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Davor wrote:
Is this a joke? First of Rules Writing? Like really? Then it's with Robbin Cruddace? Well this should be interesting.


"Step one: if you don't like an army just take a huge metaphorical dump into your word processor, send it to the publisher, and then work on a different army!"

   
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Davor wrote:
Is this a joke? First of Rules Writing? Like really? Then it's with Robbin Cruddace? Well this should be interesting.


If there's a Q&A session included in the seminar, might be the ideal time to attempt a constructive dialogue.

   
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Someone ask why a 10 man tactical squad can't take 2 special weapons! I don't want a missile launcher, I want 2 meltas or 2 gravs, or two plasma!

Also, plasma pistols should be 5 or 10 points. 15 is dumb.

Also, power fists on S3 models should only be 10 or 15 points. Poor guardsmen!

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n0t_u wrote:"Step one: if you don't like an army just take a huge metaphorical dump into your word processor, send it to the publisher, and then work on a different army!"


"Haha, but seriously folks, it's very simple. Just ignore the last 30 years of wargames rules, and pile as many special rules on as many miniatures as you can. The hard part is getting people to suck it down and call it 'character' and 'tactics' ...and that's not very hard."

But let's face it, any satire we can come up with can't hope to match the reality of GW - whether driven by studio or sales - giving a seminar on rules writing.

I'm sooo, sooo sorry.

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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Ah, well.

Trick there is bribery.

I happen to know a man who knows a man.

I'm told a pair of jackets or waterproof cagoules are a good offering to Duncan.

But he doesn't like them too thick, so Parkas are right out.

You just need to give him.....two thin coats

*exits stage left*




Thank you.

You have just made me drop my drums and cymbal.

Ba-dum-tish!

   
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 n0t_u wrote:
Davor wrote:
Is this a joke? First of Rules Writing? Like really? Then it's with Robbin Cruddace? Well this should be interesting.


"Step one: if you don't like an army just take a huge metaphorical dump into your word processor, send it to the publisher, and then work on a different army!"


Part of me wishes I could be there to watch him when someone brings up the Tyranid Codex. I doubt he'll squirm, too professional for that, but I want to see some part of him die inside knowing that there are angry gamers with hundreds of scuttling miniatures that would love to feed him to them and that only a portion are arrayed before him.

Among other factions he's toyed with.

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It's fully within the rules for me to look up your Facebook page, find out your dear Mother Gladys is single, take her on a lovely date, and tell you all the details of our hot, sweaty, animal sex during your psychic phase.
I mean, fifty bucks is on the line.
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Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.

You gonna post a thread every time GW does something Grotsnik? You're like GW's own personal cheer squad.

I mean it's nice that they're engaging with the community, but that doesn't really change things.

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 Carnikang wrote:
 n0t_u wrote:
Davor wrote:
Is this a joke? First of Rules Writing? Like really? Then it's with Robbin Cruddace? Well this should be interesting.


"Step one: if you don't like an army just take a huge metaphorical dump into your word processor, send it to the publisher, and then work on a different army!"


Part of me wishes I could be there to watch him when someone brings up the Tyranid Codex. I doubt he'll squirm, too professional for that, but I want to see some part of him die inside knowing that there are angry gamers with hundreds of scuttling miniatures that would love to feed him to them and that only a portion are arrayed before him.

Among other factions he's toyed with.


I've been calling that seminar 'the roast of Games Workshop' since I heard about it. Fun fact, it sold out faster than the VIG did.


 
   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
You gonna post a thread every time GW does something Grotsnik? You're like GW's own personal cheer squad.

I mean it's nice that they're engaging with the community, but that doesn't really change things.


I appreciate it, it's nice to hear some upbeat news when I come here instead of the same arguments going in cycles until their threads are closed.
   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
You gonna post a thread every time GW does something Grotsnik? You're like GW's own personal cheer squad.

I mean it's nice that they're engaging with the community, but that doesn't really change things.


Well, discussion boards need discussion topics?

   
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i appreciate your posts, too, Mad Doc...
it is good news that the boys in the studio will be bringing seminars across the pond

i also appreciate your sense of humor
keep it up!!!

cheers
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
You gonna post a thread every time GW does something Grotsnik? You're like GW's own personal cheer squad.

I mean it's nice that they're engaging with the community, but that doesn't really change things.


So moaning about the prices in every release thread isn't the same how....

I mean it's bad that the hobby is so expensive to the community, but that doesn't really change things.

Keep it up Grotsnik, nice to have some balance to the BMW backslap crew
   
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Keep it up. The swamp of negativity got old in 2005 lol. There are people that still enjoy the hobby and what not and appreciate reading the positive stuff.
   
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Oh man, that's awesome. Totally signed up for the GW Studio Preview Wednesday night, and had no idea that existed before!

When were these events added, have they been up and I've just been out of thing loop? Thanks for the heads up!!
   
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Not a clue - I only read about it on Warhammer Community yesterday.

Not being in the US, I've not otherwise kept tabs on Adepticon.

   
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Baron Klatz wrote:I appreciate it, it's nice to hear some upbeat news when I come here instead of the same arguments going in cycles until their threads are closed.


jah-joshua wrote:i appreciate your posts, too, Mad Doc...
it is good news that the boys in the studio will be bringing seminars across the pond


Thebiggesthat wrote:Keep it up Grotsnik, nice to have some balance to the BMW backslap crew


auticus wrote:Keep it up. The swamp of negativity got old in 2005 lol. There are people that still enjoy the hobby and what not and appreciate reading the positive stuff.


I'm not as cynical as HBMC (I think) but it's this kind of thing that's sending me that way.

GW's Adepticon seminars are a discussion point, which is what this board's about, but upbeat? Positive? It could be like Montgomery Burns holding a seminar about 'Your friend nuclear fission'. It's a thing. It's an unusual thing for modern GW to do, and it might be nice to watch a guy painting a mini, but what does it change? GW tell you what they're doing, but in person this time, and you either swoon in ecstacy or take them to task for the tyranid codex. It's neutral news, at best.

Call me when GW abandon sales-based rules writing and start playtesting. I'll even waive 'across the board price drops'. Then we'll talk about 'upbeat'.

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I'm sooo, sooo sorry.

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It's a very positive step for me because these seminars look awesome! I would love to attend any one of them. Can't wait to hear the reports from them and envy everyone who gets to go.

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 Vermis wrote:
Spoiler:
Baron Klatz wrote:I appreciate it, it's nice to hear some upbeat news when I come here instead of the same arguments going in cycles until their threads are closed.


jah-joshua wrote:i appreciate your posts, too, Mad Doc...
it is good news that the boys in the studio will be bringing seminars across the pond


Thebiggesthat wrote:Keep it up Grotsnik, nice to have some balance to the BMW backslap crew


auticus wrote:Keep it up. The swamp of negativity got old in 2005 lol. There are people that still enjoy the hobby and what not and appreciate reading the positive stuff.


I'm not as cynical as HBMC (I think) but it's this kind of thing that's sending me that way.

GW's Adepticon seminars are a discussion point, which is what this board's about, but upbeat? Positive? It could be like Montgomery Burns holding a seminar about 'Your friend nuclear fission'. It's a thing. It's an unusual thing for modern GW to do, and it might be nice to watch a guy painting a mini, but what does it change? GW tell you what they're doing, but in person this time, and you either swoon in ecstacy or take them to task for the tyranid codex. It's neutral news, at best.

Call me when GW abandon sales-based rules writing and start playtesting. I'll even waive 'across the board price drops'. Then we'll talk about 'upbeat'.


Do you complain to news services when you read an article you know you're not going to agree with?

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 Vermis wrote:
It's neutral news, at best.


Y'know, because there's only really one objective, acceptable way to respond to this news. Please report any other forms of response to your local inquisitor.

Skepticism aside, at least it's cool to see them participating more in the community in some fashion. Yeah, they probably won't address meta issues (but when have they ever?) but at least they're willing to interact more.

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Rules Seminar could be the beginning of a change on that front. From memory, this is the first time they've had such a thing.

I'd encourage a constructuve dialogue there. Not asking soft or easy questions, but avoiding rhetorical and hyperbolic.

   
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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Rules Seminar could be the beginning of a change on that front. From memory, this is the first time they've had such a thing.

I'd encourage a constructuve dialogue there. Not asking soft or easy questions, but avoiding rhetorical and hyperbolic.


I agree. You know there will be some of those questions though. And I hope someone brings a camera in to record it. Even a taperecorder so we can get actual reported reasoning or explainations for somethings they did to push design.

I may be bitter about my dinosaurlocust, but I'm still interested to listen.

PourSpelur wrote:
It's fully within the rules for me to look up your Facebook page, find out your dear Mother Gladys is single, take her on a lovely date, and tell you all the details of our hot, sweaty, animal sex during your psychic phase.
I mean, fifty bucks is on the line.
There's no rule that says I can't.
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Hazaak Dynasty - 3400 pts
Seraphon - 4600pts
 
   
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Now I would get a Warhammer Twitch subscription if they showed the that.

Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.

Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?

Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong".  
   
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They Twitch'd the Weekender ones, so chances seem good.

   
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OK, sounding like all stops pulled out.

Hands on with the models, preview gaming.

Do us proud, attending Dakkanauts!

   
 
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