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I bought some war bikes and trukk with a boss and some boys or nobz from gorkamorka wondering if its legal to use in a normal 40 k game as I want to add them to my ork army

There are direct current codex equivalents depending on weapon load outs so why not.
They come out a bit smaller than current 40k models and the bases aren't the best for playing 40k with.
I'd have some extra bases on hand with some blu tac or magnets and i'd check with anyone I was playing with beforehand or the TO.

 Alex Kolodotschko wrote:
There are direct current codex equivalents depending on weapon load outs so why not.
They come out a bit smaller than current 40k models and the bases aren't the best for playing 40k with ever.
I'd have some extra bases on hand with some blu tac or magnets and i'd check with anyone I was playing with beforehand or the TO.

Fixed that. Those Gorkamorka bases were horrid. I know they were made to help you squeeze more boyz into a trukk, but the slightest breath would see them fall over...

I was trying to be nice as it's a relatively new user.

But yeah, they do pose a pretty big advantage if you can be bothered to pick up and rebalance each ork 1000 time per game.
IIRC you could fit three of them into the same space as a current AOBR Ork meaning that they can hide far more easily, fit better into cover, get more of them into combat and a smaller target for blast weapons.

The one disadvantage, beside the having to pick them up all of the time is that you'll fit far more under a template or a blast that is on target.

There are plenty of discussions on the point, look up 'Modelling for advantage' and 'Using Proxies' to read up on some of the pros and cons.

Also: legal -

adjective: legal

1. relating to the law.
"the European legal system"
•appointed or required by the law.
"a legal requirement"


synonyms: judicial, juridical, jurisdictive, judicatory, forensic
"the legal profession"

•Law
recognized by common or statute law, as distinct from equity.
•relating to theological legalism.

2. permitted by law.
"he claimed that it had all been legal"


So yeah, it's completely legal, don't worry about the boys in blue kicking your door down.

As far as I'm aware, old models are never classed as unusable as editions fly past.

Small as they were, a Gorkamorka Ork Boy is an Ork Boy and is an official GW product. Bang it on a 25mm base and away you go.

As for the old Trukk and bike models, they are now back in operation in sets licensed by Revell. Crikey, they even resurrected the 2nd Ed Space Hulk spinning waist Terminators.

Does anyone still use the original Ghazgkul model in games?

It's a GW product but was never a Warhammer 40K product.
Ad absurdum it could be argued that it's identical to playing with Epic scale Orks.

 Alex Kolodotschko wrote:
It's a GW product but was never a Warhammer 40K product.
Ad absurdum it could be argued that it's identical to playing with Epic scale Orks.

For a period as 2nd Ed came to a close and before the Orks revamp at the start of 3rd Ed, Gorkamorka items were supplied with both the small base and 25mm bases for use in 40K.

If I remember correctly, the models changed over to 40K blister packs rather than the orginal Gormamorka packaging especially once the plastic Wartrakk and Trukk models were rebranded.

As an example, the Ork stronghold 40K terrain piece, was pictured with metal Gorkamorka models in red/ black Goff colours.




As for Epic scale models, there was an old WD where a staffer used individual Epic models for a travel version of 40K that he transported in a figure case. Small pins in the bottom allowed the models to be made secure on his foam battlefield.


That reminds me. I must get that model built to round out my full range of old card/ Necromunda bulkhead terrain.

 Orkmadness wrote:
I bought some war bikes and trukk with a boss and some boys or nobz from gorkamorka wondering if its legal to use in a normal 40 k game as I want to add them to my ork army

Just make sure your using the regular 25mm bases. Those old bases do not work, with anything... even gorkamorka.
They will be small to the size of other Orks, but they look great with the mix of different sized Orks in a mob. If you have old trucks, you might want to use different ones, because they are pretty tiny.

They're Orks. I did rebase most of mine onto 25mm, but, strictly speaking, it's not necessary. In practice, 25mm is much better. Enjoy!

I never knew that they were 40k 'sanctioned'.
I took a bit of a break from collecting and keeping up with the newest releases around then as Necrons and Gorkamorka did nothing for me at the time.

They will look better mixed into mobs with regular 40k boys (where they are the yoofs), but there's no reason they can't be used. You just need to make sure that you explain how certain ones are equipped. It's clear that an ork holding a gun two-handed counts as a shoota boy, but there were some modeled with, say, a shotgun and a knife. I would count that as a shoota, but I could see people thinking of it as a pistol and ccw.

Technically speaking, the tiny bases they came with ARE the bases they came with, so I guess you could use those, but between making people dubious by not using 25mm bases and having orks that fall over when you look at them hard, I would wholeheartedly recommend the larger 25mm bases for them.

alphaecho wrote:

 Alex Kolodotschko wrote:
It's a GW product but was never a Warhammer 40K product.
Ad absurdum it could be argued that it's identical to playing with Epic scale Orks.

For a period as 2nd Ed came to a close and before the Orks revamp at the start of 3rd Ed, Gorkamorka items were supplied with both the small base and 25mm bases for use in 40K.

If I remember correctly, the models changed over to 40K blister packs rather than the orginal Gormamorka packaging especially once the plastic Wartrakk and Trukk models were rebranded.

As an example, the Ork stronghold 40K terrain piece, was pictured with metal Gorkamorka models in red/ black Goff colours.

Spoiler:

And in the dark tome called the 3rd edition rule book there were only Gorkamorka Orks. Also a lot of the models (plastic Boyz, Gretchin, Nobz etc.) were listed in the Space Ork section in the '99 catalogue, not in the Gorkamorka one.

In terms of fluff just think of them as young Orks before their Stormboy period (i.e. kidz).

Don't let anyone stop you. Gorka Morka Orks is Best Orks.

You can pretty much use any model you want.. There is no such thing as "GW sanctioned" when it comes to models, except in peoples own minds. If your opponent doesn't want to play then its irrelevant what GW says on the topic.

Now, should you use them? I say no because they look atrocious, aren't the right scale and don't fit the game.

I think that it will be fair to use 25 mm bases as the standard size. Even at that size, some old models do not even fit well. According to the story, not one single weapon should look the same and orks always come with different size. My advice is to keep your army consistent. When you mix old models with new ones, you should not have one with smaller sizes and other bigger. This is especially for trukks since the old not is significantly smaller. Unfortunately, in the past, some players deliberately tried to try the old model behind the new trukk so the opponent could not shoot at it.

This is the 4th or 5th time you've asked this question. Use what you like and play as you like .